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[comicfan22]

Hold on, lemme answer for some of the board "Platform exclusives suck". And they do, but there is no amount of whining that is gonna change that. Bioware may listen to the people on the forums but they ALSO have to bring in new fans. The comic is an excellent way to entice the PS3 gamer, however small.

[Ryzaki]

charmingcharlie wrote...

Seriously you think it is an acceptable solution that if I want to experience the first game I should go out and plonk £300 on a machine that I will never use just to experience one game   Yeah right can I have some of what you guys are smoking.

Yeah. That's exactly what the PS3 players have to do isn't it? 

[Jamin101]

gadna13 wrote...

Skilled Seeker wrote...

No one can complain about pricing. The only thing complain worthy is any exclusivity the PS3 receives which doesn't look to be the case.

Bam! Perfectly worded right there. I can go out and buy ME2 and all the DLC for less than $60 right now. So pricing doesn't bother me. Also, only thing PS3 users get is the comic (which for all we know might be available to PC/360 later.)

I am not bothered by any of this in the least bit. I hope I can get my hands on that comic at some point though.

i dont get the logic of well its cheap now, when i bought it it was not cheap. Maybe after 10 months the ps3 version should be cheap like xbox not immediately.

[Jamin101]

Dust_King wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...

Right and in a month and a half the PS3 version will be cheap like the 360 and PC and it will still come with the DLC. And the 360 and PC versions will still need to pay for the DLC.

Does your crystal ball contain any other predictions about Mass Effect? Can you tell us about the next DLC or when the Game of the Year edition will be released? (Sorry for the sarcasm but I really don't like people basing arguments on assumptions)

Games don't immediately drop in price (a quick look proves FFXIII, white night chronicles, new vegas, just cause, transformers, dead rising 2 etc. are all still being sold at full price, well over "a month and a half" after their release). By the time Mass Effect 2 begins to drop in price there could have been any number of developments which we have no way of predicting.

If your objecting to this because of a hypothetical situation which is up to six months away from actually happening you may want to take a closer look at what exactly you call "fair"

As I said, the PS3 edition is still months away from release, let alone a price drop, so unless you know all of bioware's planned announcements for the next six months I can't see how you know this will be unfair when the price does eventually drop.

Sorry but that just seems like a really weak argument 

does your crystal ball give the lotto numbers cause your assumptions are no more legit then his. one guy says the price will drop and the other guy says no other stuff is coming. you dont work at bioware so your oppinion is the same as his.

games drop in price if they do decent or bad, look at the new splinter cell, red dead redemption etc. no guranteeing this is a hit on ps3, maybe their more used to japanese style rpg's and it doesnt catch on, maybe without me1 the experience sucks.

his assumptions are based on history of gaming that after a few months games have a price drop, which if history holds true ps3 users get all the dlc and game for cheaper then xbox any way you look at it. lets say i waited from january till now i still have to buy the game for 40 and then 10 each for dlc. ps3 users wait a year they get the game and all dlc for 40. i dont see how it can even be argued.

even if a bridging dlc is released it doesnt change a price drop its just new dlc. for all we know there will be no game of the year edition

[Dust_King]

 First off all I didn't make any assumptions in my post, I merely provided examples of flaws in his assumptions. 

IF the PS3 version drops in price and IF there is no comparable version announced for 360/pc THEN you may have a valid point.

Until then these complaints are pointless, especially since your complaining about someone getting a version which is MORE EXPENSIVE than the other versions+DLC. 

IF the hypothetical situation comes to pass when it is cheaper on PS3 than it is on 360/pc THEN complain all you like.

But none of this is happened, something I am NOT assuming, something that is a fact. So stop whineing about what you assume may happen 

[Mage One]

Thank you belated PS3 release! I realize it is very sad that you do not get to play Mass Effect before playing Mass Effect 2, but this means I get a very interesting-sounding interactive comic book in time. I'm looking forward to playing with it when it gets released for the PC. So, my condolences in addition to my thanks, I suppose.

[scarface71795]

So they are getting the ability to buy pre order exclusives or am i mistaken as i'm going to be pissed if they get the ability to buy the terminus pack and we don't

[Skilled Seeker]

Lard wrote...

durasteel wrote...

I am very tired of this stupid argument being trotted out and treated as if it makes any fornicating sense whatsoever.

We haven't experienced the comic.  We experienced the game.  The comic is not the game.

Would I trade the game for the comic?  No. 

There's your answer right there. You want both while PS3 owners get stuck with a half-assed option, so you can lord it over us.

No dice. The comic is TO MAKE UP FOR the fact that PS3 owners ARE NOT GETTING MASS EFFECT 1.

YOU HAVE MASS EFFECT 1.

Discussion over.

This fanboy mentality is really both petty and pathetic. I hope you'll grow up one day.

[BLunted]

I think this is the only place i have seen more crying than my son's preschool.

[Lard]

charmingcharlie wrote...

Lard wrote...
The *only* way everyone will be as happy as possible is when the PS3 actually gets Mass Effect 1.

Ok so explain to me, why would PS3 owners be "unhappy" if PC/360 users got the ability to BUY the comic ?  As has been said several dozen times now, giving PC/360 users access to the comic will not impact on PS3 users in any way whatsoever.

That's not what I said. I said the only way everyone would be happy is if everyone gets everything. PS3 owners are not going to be happy with the comic instead of the game, no matter what. It's a poor substitute.

[charmingcharlie]

Ryzaki wrote...

charmingcharlie wrote...
Seriously you think it is an acceptable solution that if I want to experience the first game I should go out and plonk £300 on a machine that I will never use just to experience one game [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/smilie]  Yeah right can I have some of what you guys are smoking.

Yeah. That's exactly what the PS3 players have to do isn't it?  [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/smilie]

My my aren't you a clever so and so [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie] I see what you did there, you tried to turn my argument against me, kudos to you except for one thing.  Last time I checked Mass Effect 1 is  available on the PC  now I think it is pretty  fair to assume most people have a PC (especially if they are posting on the forum).  The specs to play Mass Effect 1 are not that high.  It doesn't even specify you need a dual core to run the game.  At most they may need to do a minor upgrade to their GPU and a £60 GPU upgrade will easily get ME 1 running on a PC at better than console quality settings.

So if a PS3 user wants to play Mass Effect 1 then all they need is spend £60 on a GPU and £10 on a PC copy of Mass Effect 1.  If my maths is correct that comes to £70 that is quite different to me having to fork out £250 + £50 for the ability to experience a comic now isn't it.

Lard wrote...
That's not what I said. I said the only way everyone would be happy is if everyone gets everything. PS3 owners are not going to be happy with the comic instead of the game, no matter what. It's a poor substitute.

Right now we are getting some where.  I accept that, I accept PS3 users will never be truly happy unless they get ME 1.  I know if I was a PS3 user I would question whether it is even worth getting into the Mass Effect series so late in the day.  Now nothing is going to change the fact PS3 users are not going to get ME 1 I don't think that is fair but that is the situation you are in.

Now explain to me why you are so dead against PC/360 users being able to buy the comic ?  You have established that PS3 users are not going to be happy because they wil not get ME 1.  I fail to see how with holding the comic from PC/360 users is going to rectify that situation.

The only reason I can think of for PS3 users to want PC/360 users to miss out on the comic is to have some sense of "ha well we lost out on content and so did PC/360 users ha ha ha"..  Nothing is lost or gained by allowing PC/360 users the ability to buy the comic, so I don't understand why you are against the idea.

Modifié par charmingcharlie, 17 novembre 2010 - 01:23 .

[ReveurIngenu]

I really hope Bioware keeps the comic PS3 exclusive just to spite the whiners. Come on Bioware! You can do it!

[durasteel]

ReveurIngenu wrote...

I really hope Bioware keeps the comic PS3 exclusive just to spite the whiners. Come on Bioware! You can do it!

That's hilarious.  The whiners are the PS3ers who stomp their little feet and flail their little fists, and scream "It's not fair! We didn't get the first game!"  The whiners think that this interactive comic is being offered to them as some sort of "mea culpa" from BioWare, and throw big pity parties to celebrate their imagined entitlement.

The more of these asinine "We deserve an exclusive! Wah!" posts that I read, the less sympathetic I am toward the PS3 owners that missed out on Mass Effect 1.  It seems like for every rational one like Dust King, there are two like Lard.

It is both hilarious and depressing that you can look at a series of posts that demand, in fierce all caps tirades, that this comic should and must be given to PS3 owners only, and that the 360 and PC owners should never have it because they don't deserve it, and they were mean and laughed at the PS3, and hurted their little feelings... and then accuse the other posters in this thread of being "whiners."

Modifié par durasteel, 17 novembre 2010 - 03:23 .

[durasteel]

comicfan22 wrote...

Hold on, lemme answer for some of the board "Platform exclusives suck". And they do, but there is no amount of whining that is gonna change that. Bioware may listen to the people on the forums but they ALSO have to bring in new fans. The comic is an excellent way to entice the PS3 gamer, however small.

There might very well be some PS3 owners out there who will buy ME2 for the PS3 because of the comic.  There aren't any who will say "Oh, wait a minute... no, if other people can get it too, then I don't want it."  Exclusives don't sell games, they sell consoles.  BioWare is not trying to sell more PS3s here, they're trying to sell more copies of ME2 (and ultimately ME3 when it is released.)

Modifié par durasteel, 17 novembre 2010 - 03:24 .

[Spinalcore]

I have The 360 Version of ME2 but will still be going for the PS3 version myself anyways. Kind of nice being able to get the same game for all 3 of the systems I have for gaming on. I am relieved that it is sounding like I will have all the content that I already have for my 360 available for the $60 or $70 that the PS3 version will cost me. Would be annoying having to pay the same for the base game as I had to pay for the 360 version about a year earlier, Then still having to buy the DLC on top of that. At least it doesn't sound like there will be PS3 only items just PS3 only packages. I am sure that the GOTY of the 360 will be released after but no point complaining when you can buy the Game and all the DLCs for the PC and 360 for about the same price as the PS3 version is. For me the main reason I bought the 360 was to play Mass Effect 1 even tho I already had my PS3 at the time. So it is just means I can spend more money on Bioware games and help my province's primary game designers keep making the games that I enjoy playing no matter what system they are on. 

Modifié par Spinalcore, 17 novembre 2010 - 04:02 .

[Dave of Canada]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

This fanboy mentality is really both petty and pathetic. I hope you'll grow up one day.

Wat.

Skilled Seeker wrote...

BS, The PC is the true hardcore gamer's choice. Its not a console but there is nothing harcore about casual consoles and their designed for babies controls.

[Da_Lion_Man]

Is this still going on?

[Skilled Seeker]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Skilled Seeker wrote...

This fanboy mentality is really both petty and pathetic. I hope you'll grow up one day.

Wat.

Skilled Seeker wrote...

BS, The PC is the true hardcore gamer's choice. Its not a console but there is nothing harcore about casual consoles and their designed for babies controls.

I wasn't trying to deny anyone content. Simply stating the fact that PC is the most 'hardcore' platform since it is the most complex and always on the cutting edge. There is no denying it.

[Lard]

charmingcharlie wrote...

So if a PS3 user wants to play Mass Effect 1 then all they need is spend £60 on a GPU and £10 on a PC copy of Mass Effect 1.  If my maths is correct that comes to £70 that is quite different to me having to fork out £250 + £50 for the ability to experience a comic now isn't it.

C/360 users the ability to buy the comic, so I don't understand why you are against the idea.

Except people who play ME1 on the PC won't get the added bonus of having their choices come through in ME2, whichs renders that option absolutely pointless.

There should be absolute parity.

[durasteel]

Lard wrote...

Except people who play ME1 on the PC won't get the added bonus of having their choices come through in ME2, whichs renders that option absolutely pointless.

There should be absolute parity.

There should, in point of fact, be absolute parity.  I agree with that, as a theory, because platform exclusives suck. 

The only thing standing in the way of ME1 for the PS3 now is money.  If EA were convinced that PS3 gamers would buy enough copies of the original Mass Effect for the Sony platform to justify the expense of clearing any contractual hurdles with Microsoft and porting the game over to the PS3, I'm sure they would do it.

A game save file editor for the PC and 360 version was created about a month after the game was released.  I would expect that it will not be long after the PS3 release before someone develops a tool to convert a PC or 360 game save file into a format that will be recognized and imported by the PS3 version of the game.  At that point, it will be very reasonable for a person to play the first game on the PC, then transfer to the PS3 for the second game.

Ideal?  Perhaps not.  Workable, though.

[durasteel]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

I wasn't trying to deny anyone content. Simply stating the fact that PC is the most 'hardcore' platform since it is the most complex and always on the cutting edge. There is no denying it.

Considering that only the PC platform lets you deploy several thousand dollars worth of hardware in the cause of video games, including linked high powered video cards and a series of back-lit customizable control devices that can go as far into the realm of the ridiculous as most people could ever imagine, yeah.  The PC will always be the home of the absolute hardcore.  There is not much limit to the insanity that you can indulge when building your own PC gaming rig.

For the record, although I am a PC gaming enthusiast, I am not "hardcore."

[hitorihanzo]

Am I the only one that HATES cross-platform games? IMO, it defeats the purpose of buying one console as opposed to another. You bought the wrong system if you wanted to play ME as it was meant to be played. Want to experience the real deal? Get the correct system. If all games come out for all systems, then what's the point? Just my opinion and a little off-topic.



That being said, I could care less about a PS3 user getting upset over getting an interactive comic.

Be thankful that BioWare cares enough about you to port ME2 in the first place. You bought the wrong system to experience Mass Effect in it's entirety. It's not BioWare's fault.



/end annoyance.

[Crimson-Cobalt]

I don't understand this "Hardcore" thing.How does one measure their "hardcorness",is it by buying expensive hardware or is it determined by how much one enjoys a game.For some people its all about how many trophies they can unlock.I find the whole "I'm hardcore because I have a higher gamerscore" or "I'm hardcore because I've got a gaming PC" thing just ridiculous.

Modifié par Crimson-Cobalt, 17 novembre 2010 - 09:32 .

[Elite Midget]

We've had ME1 for years and ME2 for years. I doubt we're getting any new Gamers for the 360/pc version. Even than they would be far better off actually playing the games than getting a handholding Comic. Thus the only ones who want the Comic are current gamers that have played the heck out of ME2 but are simply too lazy to play ME1 again to make their 50th Shepard.



I've made many Shepards and I don't want the Comic since I have the far better ME1 to immerse me in the ME Universe.



Besides, don't we already have the means to edit saves if you 'really' were that lazy?