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[Nizzemancer]

didymos1120 wrote...

Nizzemancer wrote...
Why should I have to pay for the Playstation-peoples DLCs? They could have just ported both games and DLCs to PS3 but noooooo.

No, they couldn't have.  Microsoft owns the console rights to ME1.  Also, what makes you think you're subsidising PS3 DLC?

ps3 free dlc...yeah, of course I'm not subsidising that with my purchase...? OF COURSE I AM, IT'S OBVIOUS!

[Daidarus]

My only problem is that the DLC that can no longer be obtained like Terminus isn't purchasable by PC/360 Players, I'm all for everyone gettting to play ME but I think if you are going to release DLC it shouldn't only be purchasable for one platform. Releasing your game for everyone is common sense but releasing your content for eveyone is even more of a no-brainer.

- D

[Taciter]

So... I've waited months now for Bioware to reconcile their misjudgement concerning 'PS3 Exclusive' DLC's and so far I've seen little evidence that they have at any point expressed an interest in providing us (the PC and XBox ME community - that trivial market sector that clearly doesn't warrant a second thought) with the remaining purchasable content which thus far has remained conspicuously illusive to all but fanatical Dr. Pepper quaffers or Playstation owners - perhaps the two demographics have a natural affinity?

I however, as a spokesman for the forlorn and hopelessly irredeemable group of social pariahs otherwise known as PC users, must once again remind those Bioware marketing executives of the benefits derived from adopting an egalitarian approach to content publishing. In this instance, if you hadn't guessed already, I'm referring to the 'Playstation Network' exclusive DLC's. Speaking for myself, I have gone to great lengths in an effort to acquire the entire portfolio of existing add-ons and now I find myself at an impasse.

The only remaining content that continues to paralyse my efforts is content that is conveniently available to all Playstation users and demands little more effort than a few clicks of a mouse and a modest financial transaction. In contrast, those PC/Xbox owners who aren't committed to a diet of sugary pop drinks must make do with the status quo. It's not good enough - I'm more than willing to pay for additional content (despite already owning the collector's edition and more) and am ready and willing at the drop of a hat, so what is the problem?

Please don't let us down. I realise I'm just one individual but in a community as large as Mass Effect's, I suspect my feelings mirror those of many other disgruntled obsessionals - and it's the obsessional fans who will float your company through the good times AND the bad.

Modifié par Taciter, 30 septembre 2011 - 12:23 .

[TheDeathSeraph]

I find it odd that a company doesn't want more money. There is obviously a demand for all of the DLC available for purchase on PS3 that is essentially no longer available for Xbox 360/PC players of ME2 to get (Terminus weapon/armor pack, Collector's weapon/armor pack, and the 3 Dr. Pepper promotion items).

As an Xbox 360 player of ME2, the DLC differences between PS3 and Xbox 360/PC users sucks because I got a late start to the series so getting the Collector's Edition of ME2 and preordering the game to get the Terminus Armor was never an option (bought ME1 and ME2 for Xbox 360 after ME2 was released on PS3). Luckily I got the Dr. Pepper promo items.

It would be nice to be able to purchase these DLC packs before ME3's release, like PS3 users can, because I really enjoy the series. Should it matter that I got a late start to the series? Anyone can go out and buy the PS3 version of ME2 and buy all of the DLC that was only available as an exclusive to Xbox 360/PC adopters of ME2. It would be in the best interest of EA and Bioware to release the DLC, that was originally exclusive to certain adopters, for purchase at the 2nd year anniversary of ME2's initial release for Xbox 360/PC because it basically hasn't been available to non-PS3 users for that many years. I think that Xbox 360 and PC players of ME2 won't mind other people getting the "exclusive" DLC because people who got the Collector's edition probably didn't just buy it for DLC since there are so many other goodies in that edition, and Terminus gear was given away for free as a preorder bonus so people wanting to buy it shouldn't be an issue after almost 2 years. As with the Dr. Pepper promo DLC, why not make it available to purchase after the promotion ends because it's only available to U.S. residents that way and the ME series is not just popular in the U.S.

I would also like to see all of those people trying to sell codes for Collector's and Terminus weapon/armor packs on eBay, trying to sell each one for around $100-$500, get shut down. If people are listing codes for the Xbox/PC versions to unlock these DLC items at such high prices, there is obviously a demand for these items and there is money to be made. Even if I had enough money to buy these on eBay, I would still wait until it was available for purchase to Xbox/PC players of ME2 because I would rather support a company that creates these wonderful games than some collector on eBay who wouldn't need the hundreds of dollars for the DLC codes.

I'm also not going to be an idiot and say I'll boycott Bioware and EA because I care about their products. I want them to continue making great games, but I'm starting to lose my faith in them with each passing day. I'm looking at all of the other forums on this site that discuss similar ideas of making all of the DLC that PS3 users can purchase available to Xbox/PC players, and all I can think is "no one at Bioware is listening." There is virtually no response from Bioware about this issue whatsoever and i feel like my post on this forum is a waste of time. Don't make it feel like a crime that I like the Mass Effect series. PS3 users are all caught up now, so the DLC in question being available for purchase by Xbox/PC users shouldn't be a problem.

Please Bioware, I hate to be reduced to begging but I really hope that the message reaches you or already has reached you. Make that DLC available for purchase because I would love to give you more money...please. Care for your fans and they will care even more for you. You should know that by now.

P.S. I've read on other forums of other people who say things like "don't bother because they are useless", or "there is better gear"; and I would like to say to those people "let me see for myself." Give people the opportunity to purchase the DLC because, guess what, people want it.

(Also, sorry for the long post. I poured my heart out on this topic.)

[SuperNova42]

The previous two posts encompass nearly everything I've wanted to say about the lack of availability of the "missing" dlc for PC and 360 users. There's little more I can add beyond several personal concerns and the potential snag about the Blood Dragon armor:

The main reason why I'd like to see the Terminus gear and the Dr Pepper promo items being made available for all to purchase is the fact that Shepard's inventory from ME2 carries over to ME3. Regardless of whether the Terminus armour is "useless", the Blackstorm is a heavy weapon I've been keen to use for ages now. One also has to consider the fact that besides generating some goodwill among PC/360 users, making more dlc available will only build additional hype and interest for Mass Effect 3 , particularly if the transferrable inventory feature is emphasised.

In addition, the lack of clarity about whether or not these items will ever be available grates more than anything else. All we've had to go on was the "is or have been available" marketing line. No-one from BW has ever come out to fully dismiss the idea of the items eventually being made availale. My only hope now is that at the very least the Dr Pepper items will be purchaseable once the promotion expires in January next year, but what I find worrisome is the fact there will be a Dr Pepper promotion for ME3, leading to the inevitable conclusion that this entire scenario will just repeat itself.

On the Blood Dragon arour, PC/360 owners had to buy a separate game in order to attain it whereas its available immediately to PS3 users from the ME2 disc. Making it available for download may seem disingenuous to some PC/360 owners so I'm not entirely sure how that would be addressed. I already have it but my feeling that it should be available to all players, particularly Sentinel, Adept and Engineer users, eclipses any potential concerns of "betrayal" I could potentially harbour.

I hope this post didn't come across as whiny, but I feel as though there are no other avenues to air my concerns

Modifié par SuperNova42, 29 septembre 2011 - 12:26 .

[Taciter]

SuperNova42 wrote...

The previous two posts encompass nearly everything I've wanted to say about the lack of availability of the "missing" dlc for PC and 360 users. There's little more I can add beyond several personal concerns and the potential snag about the Blood Dragon armor:

The main reason why I'd like to see the Terminus gear and the Dr Pepper promo items being made available for all to purchase is the fact that Shepard's inventory from ME2 carries over to ME3. Regardless of whether the Terminus armour is "useless", the Blackstorm is a heavy weapon I've been keen to use for ages now. One also has to consider the fact that besides generating some goodwill among PC/360 users, making more dlc available will only build additional hype and interest for Mass Effect 3 , particularly if the transferrable inventory feature is emphasised.

In addition, the lack of clarity about whether or not these items will ever be available grates more than anything else. All we've had to go on was the "is or have been available" marketing line. No-one from BW has ever come out to fully dismiss the idea of the items eventually being made availale. My only hope now is that at the very least the Dr Pepper items will be purchaseable once the promotion expires in January next year, but what I find worrisome is the fact there will be a Dr Pepper promotion for ME3, leading to the inevitable conclusion that this entire scenario will just repeat itself.

On the Blood Dragon arour, PC/360 owners had to buy a separate game in order to attain it whereas its available immediately to PS3 users from the ME2 disc. Making it available for download may seem disingenuous to some PC/360 owners so I'm not entirely sure how that would be addressed. I already have it but my feeling that it should be available to all players, particularly Sentinel, Adept and Engineer users, eclipses any potential concerns of "betrayal" I could potentially harbour.

I hope this post didn't come across as whiny, but I feel as though there are no other avenues to air my concerns

Well said Supernova and thanks for emphasising the points that I'd overlooked. If 1755 posts in a thread that refuses to retire into obscurity doesn't warrant official acknowledgment then I fear nothing will.

I don't think your post was at all whiny, the only people who could possibly take offence would be those individuals whom for what ever reason, feel that releasing currently unobtainable content to willing consumers is somehow morally reprehensable. I for one bought the collector's edition and yet I wouldn't think twice about purchasing a DLC which included many of the bonus items I've already procured at cost - the game is over 20 months old now and I fully endorse such a proposal.

Like you, I have concerns that ME3 will follow suit. We can only hope that Bioware's/EA's marketing execs fully appreciate the strength of feeling expressed in these forums on this topic alone. The Mass Effect franchise, for many of us, constitutes the pinnacle of single player RPG development and for us, the possibility of neglecting additional content (no matter how insignificant) invites a disproportionate level of despondency. I outlined my misgiving re: Affiliate promotions in THIS thread wherein I suggested a more 'player-friendly' approach to affiliate exclusives involving private commissions and Bioware's development team.

As for the issue of 'betrayal', my feelings mirror your own and whilest we don't presume to speak on behalf of all bonus content 'owners', I suspect the majority would either be in favour of universal availability or completely indifferent to the proposal. I certainly don't think it's 'fair' to provide previously exclusive content as standard on one platform whilst continually denying such content on others. The frequent attempts at justification for such action on conciliatary grounds (i.e. The 'we didn't get ME1, you did! argument) doesn't hold weight in my opinion - the inclusion of another platform into such a popular franchise should be cause for celebration, not consternation. As it is, the PS argument is roughly analogous to a belated party attendee reprimanding the host for allowing their early guests to finish off the champagne then demanding double-helping's of strawberries and cream.

Modifié par Taciter, 29 septembre 2011 - 02:05 .

[SuperNova42]

Taciter wrote...

SuperNova42 wrote...

The previous two posts encompass nearly everything I've wanted to say about the lack of availability of the "missing" dlc for PC and 360 users. There's little more I can add beyond several personal concerns and the potential snag about the Blood Dragon armor:

The main reason why I'd like to see the Terminus gear and the Dr Pepper promo items being made available for all to purchase is the fact that Shepard's inventory from ME2 carries over to ME3. Regardless of whether the Terminus armour is "useless", the Blackstorm is a heavy weapon I've been keen to use for ages now. One also has to consider the fact that besides generating some goodwill among PC/360 users, making more dlc available will only build additional hype and interest for Mass Effect 3 , particularly if the transferrable inventory feature is emphasised.

In addition, the lack of clarity about whether or not these items will ever be available grates more than anything else. All we've had to go on was the "is or have been available" marketing line. No-one from BW has ever come out to fully dismiss the idea of the items eventually being made availale. My only hope now is that at the very least the Dr Pepper items will be purchaseable once the promotion expires in January next year, but what I find worrisome is the fact there will be a Dr Pepper promotion for ME3, leading to the inevitable conclusion that this entire scenario will just repeat itself.

On the Blood Dragon arour, PC/360 owners had to buy a separate game in order to attain it whereas its available immediately to PS3 users from the ME2 disc. Making it available for download may seem disingenuous to some PC/360 owners so I'm not entirely sure how that would be addressed. I already have it but my feeling that it should be available to all players, particularly Sentinel, Adept and Engineer users, eclipses any potential concerns of "betrayal" I could potentially harbour.

I hope this post didn't come across as whiny, but I feel as though there are no other avenues to air my concerns

Well said Supernova and thanks for emphasising the points that I'd overlooked. If 1755 posts in a thread that refuses to retire into obscurity doesn't warrant official acknowledgment then I fear nothing will.

I don't think your post was at all whiny, the only people who could possibly take offence would be those individuals whom for what ever reason, feel that releasing currently unobtainable content to willing consumers is somehow morally reprehensable. I for one bought the collector's edition and yet I wouldn't think twice about purchasing a DLC which included many of the bonus items I've already procured at cost - the game is over 20 months old now and I fully endorse such a proposal.

Like you, I have concerns that ME3 will follow suit. We can only hope that Bioware's/EA's marketing execs fully appreciate the strength of feeling expressed in these forums on this topic alone. The Mass Effect franchise, for many of us, constitutes the pinnacle of single player RPG development and for us, the possibility of neglecting additional content (no matter how insignificant) invites a disproportionate level of despondency. I outlined my misgiving re: Affiliate promotions in THIS thread wherein I suggested a more 'player-friendly' approach to affiliate exclusives involving private commissions and Bioware's development team.

As for the issue of 'betrayal', my feelings mirror your own and whilest we don't presume to speak on behalf of all bonus content 'owners', I suspect the majority would either be in favour of universal availability or completely indifferent to the proposal. I certainly don't think it's 'fair' to provide previously exclusive content as standard on one platform whilst continually denying such content on others. The frequent attempts at justification for such action on conciliatary grounds (i.e. The 'we didn't get ME1, you did! argument) doesn't hold weight in my opinion - the inclusion of another platform into such a popular franchise should be cause for celebration, not consternation. As it is, the PS argument is roughly analogous to a belated party attendee reprimanding the host for allowing their early guests to finish off the champagne then demanding double-helping's of strawberries and cream.

There's also the fact that there likely won't be a "Complete/Ultimate/Game of the Year" edition release for ME2. In a case like that, the various outstanding dlc would no doubt have been available for purchase on all platforms, but due to the late release of ME2 for PS3, any plans for such a release are rendered pointless due to the fact that the PS3 release itself was already touted as a Game of the Year edition. Releasing a version of ME2 with all the dlc on disc would be nearly pointless to PS3 owners, save those without internet connections.

There's nothing more I can say about this. I feel as though harping on about it won't do any help. A thread this size without any indication from the devs about whether or not the the Terminus gear/Dr Pepper items will ever be broadly available probably means we're all wasting our time. The best we can hope for is that ME3 dlc will see simultaneous release across all platforms in the future.

[TheDeathSeraph]

I'm pretty new to this whole forum thing (so I don't know how to do the quote thing), but SuperNova42... don't give up hope on the DLC not available for purchase by Xbox/PC owners ever being available.

I also doubt that there will be a "Complete/Ultimate/Game of the Year" edition of ME2 released before Mass Effect 3 because Bioware/EA probably want people to have enough money to buy ME3. I do however believe that there is still a glimmer of hope of the DLC being released for non-PS3 to buy before ME3's release. They wouldn't need to charge that much for the DLC to get a profit because there is a demand for the DLC. Also, I don't fully know if this is accurate but it seems as if DLC is usually announced 2-3 months before being released. I say don't fully give up on the DLC until ME3 is released.

I know this is super cheesy but...don't give up.

Also, Taciter, it is nice to hear that someone who purchased the Collector's edition of ME2 endorses the release of the DLC available for purchase by PS3 user as of right now. I also hope my commentary about how "people who got the Collector's edition probably didn't just buy it for DLC since there are so many other goodies in that edition" didn't make it sound like I was speaking on the behalf of the bonus content owners. I simply wanted to state that the DLC included in the Collector's edition does not define the Collector's edition as a whole because there is much more to it that makes it a Collector's item.

Modifié par TheDeathSeraph, 29 septembre 2011 - 05:22 .

[Taciter]

woops.. double post

Modifié par Taciter, 29 septembre 2011 - 07:15 .

[Taciter]

TheDeathSeraph wrote...

I'm pretty new to this whole forum thing (so I don't know how to do the quote thing), but SuperNova42... don't give up hope on the DLC not available for purchase by Xbox/PC owners ever being available.

I also doubt that there will be a "Complete/Ultimate/Game of the Year" edition of ME2 released before Mass Effect 3 because Bioware/EA probably want people to have enough money to buy ME3. I do however believe that there is still a glimmer of hope of the DLC being released for non-PS3 to buy before ME3's release. They wouldn't need to charge that much for the DLC to get a profit because there is a demand for the DLC. Also, I don't fully know if this is accurate but it seems as if DLC is usually announced 2-3 months before being released. I say don't fully give up on the DLC until ME3 is released.

I know this is super cheesy but...don't give up.

Also, Taciter, it is nice to hear that someone who purchased the Collector's edition of ME2 endorses the release of the DLC available for purchase by PS3 user as of right now. I also hope my commentary about how "people who got the Collector's edition probably didn't just buy it for DLC since there are so many other goodies in that edition" didn't make it sound like I was speaking on the behalf of the bonus content owners. I simply wanted to state that the DLC included in the Collector's edition does not define the Collector's edition as a whole because there is much more to it that makes it a Collector's item.

Hi Seraph and welcome to the forums bud, seem's like you've grasped the concept of forum discourse as second nature. I did read your post in the 'Terminus Armour' thread and agree with all the points you volunteered so there was little I could have contributed for the sake of further edification.

And absolutely, I got the collector's edition because I wanted the shineh version of the game for which I had so patiently and so eagerly anticipated and although it wasn't quite on a par with the original, I maintain it was still worth every penny. Had I bought the standard edition, I would still have purchased every subsequent DLC without hesitation. Ironically, and in contrast to the majority of ME2 fans, my Shep dons collector armour from beginning to end - I think it looks so awesome that I'm even prepared to ignore the shameful oversight that is masked cut scenes.

As for endorsing unrestricted content purchase (exclusive or otherwise), I think it would be an arrogant and self-centred person who would deny other less fortunate players the opportunity to experience the game in its entirely - especially if the proceeds from which could further our collective interests, which of course, is to see our beloved franchise continue to mature and flourish. If Bioware get's this right and EA continues to credit them with the latitude they deserve then I forsee Mass Effect becoming a cult industry - much akin to Star Wars or Star Trek, with every subsequent release expounding on the established theme.

I want to know more about the subtle detail too, I want to know how the derelict reaper in ME2 came to its demise, I want to know what the Prothean home planet was called and what its architecture looked like. I'd LOVE to know more about the predominant races that emerged in prior Reaper Epoch's - what were the first organic civilisations like? There is SOOO much potential intrigue in such a fascinating universe as Mass Effect's but as usual, I've digressed beyond even my usual capacity so I'll go and reflect on those ideas elsewhere! =P

Modifié par Taciter, 29 septembre 2011 - 07:19 .

[SuperNova42]

I guess you're right, TheDeathSeraph. It'd probably be more pertinent if I took a wait-and-see approach as to whether the other dlc will be released before ME3, but I won't hold my breath. 

I wonder if the reason why the extra dlc wasn't released was due to a deal struck between Sony and EA. The PS3 has seen several high-profile third-party titles this console gen that had exclusive content, like Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood with the Copernicus Conspiracy and the Joker challenge maps in Batman Arham Asylum.

[Taciter]

SuperNova42 wrote...

I guess you're right, TheDeathSeraph. It'd probably be more pertinent if I took a wait-and-see approach as to whether the other dlc will be released before ME3, but I won't hold my breath. 

I wonder if the reason why the extra dlc wasn't released was due to a deal struck between Sony and EA. The PS3 has seen several high-profile third-party titles this console gen that had exclusive content, like Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood with the Copernicus Conspiracy and the Joker challenge maps in Batman Arham Asylum.

I don't think there's any doubt about it, I don't keep abreast of business trends in corporate circles but it seems pretty clear to me that there has been a bit of hand shaking going on. The Sony relationship is understandable if not justifiable however, the Dr.Pepper relationship is a real gripe for me... they're not even in the same business sector! I guess they pay a lump sump or a periodic installment for continued use of Bioware/EA's licence to provide DLC codes but it's all the expence of the consumer - they're treading on our turf!

Modifié par Taciter, 29 septembre 2011 - 08:28 .

[SuperNova42]

At the end of the day, making games is like any other business and the bottom line is what really matters to a company, far more so than the whims of consumers, regardless if how entitled we may feel to any given franchise.

Still, I feel as though deciding to play ME2 on anything other than a PS3 seems as though I'm dooming myself to experiencing an incomplete product, and the fact that some people think that gaming on any non-PS3 format should preclude me from having access to certain content frustrates me even further.

I'm reminded of a certain exchange in ME1.... Shepard: "The Council treats us like second class citizens. We have to fight for everything we get." ... Executor Pallin: "Good. Then fight for it, but don't expect the rest of us to just sit back and let you take it".

[Taciter]

SuperNova42 wrote...

At the end of the day, making games is like any other business and the bottom line is what really matters to a company, far more so than the whims of consumers, regardless if how entitled we may feel to any given franchise.

Still, I feel as though deciding to play ME2 on anything other than a PS3 seems as though I'm dooming myself to experiencing an incomplete product, and the fact that some people think that gaming on any non-PS3 format should preclude me from having access to certain content frustrates me even further.

I'm reminded of a certain exchange in ME1.... Shepard: "The Council treats us like second class citizens. We have to fight for everything we get." ... Executor Pallin: "Good. Then fight for it, but don't expect the rest of us to just sit back and let you take it".

I hear ya Nova and certainly, I agree that 'bottom line' politics is and should be the primary concern of any self-respecting commercial entity but when your 'ace in the hole' is a niche product that is likely to appeal to a reasonably specific demographic, you have to factor in a different set of variables. MMO's rely on long-term subscribers supplemented by a regular turnover of short-term hover-by-nights, Muliplayer action and FPS titles rely on market saturation and hype and Niche games rely on repeat custom, community loyalty and word of mouth. In the case of multi-platform Niche games, apparent bias towards any particular group is a recipe for disaster.

Like so many vestil virgins in a bedouin hareem, we all want to be the favourite but the key to social harmony lies in treating us with respect and impartiality. Amen

Modifié par Taciter, 30 septembre 2011 - 12:33 .

[TheDeathSeraph]

Taciter wrote...

SuperNova42 wrote...

At the end of the day, making games is like any other business and the bottom line is what really matters to a company, far more so than the whims of consumers, regardless if how entitled we may feel to any given franchise.

Still, I feel as though deciding to play ME2 on anything other than a PS3 seems as though I'm dooming myself to experiencing an incomplete product, and the fact that some people think that gaming on any non-PS3 format should preclude me from having access to certain content frustrates me even further.

I'm reminded of a certain exchange in ME1.... Shepard: "The Council treats us like second class citizens. We have to fight for everything we get." ... Executor Pallin: "Good. Then fight for it, but don't expect the rest of us to just sit back and let you take it".

I hear ya Nova and certainly, I agree that 'bottom line' politics is and should be the primary concern of any self-respecting commercial entity but when your 'ace in the hole' is a niche product that is likely to appeal to a reasonably specific demographic, you have to have to factor in a different set of variables. MMO's rely on long-term subscribers supplemented by a regular turnover of short-term hover-by-nights, Muliplayer action and FPS titles rely on market saturation and hype and Niche games rely on repeat custom, community loyalty and word of mouth. In the case of multi-platform Niche games, apparent bias towards any particular group is a recipe for disaster.

Like so many vestil virgins in a bedouin hareem, we all want to be the favourite but the key to social harmony lies in treating us with respect and impartiality. Amen

I have never heard truer words spoken. There is an appropriate function for buisnesses to do this because profit is important for a buisness to exist. In the case of the Mass Effect series, it is now a proven success. I doubt Mass Effect 2 would actually exist if ME1 had been a complete failure. The fact that the series is soon approaching its third entry and the potential of more Mass Effect games after that in some capacity further highlights that the release of the ME2 DLC to Xbox/PC players would not be a negative aspect in regard to buisness practices. I may not know the contributing factors in going through the motions to release DLC to be purchased, but the effort that would be put in if done a little bit at a time would pay off. It's not like they have to create/edit the graphics for them to be released on non-PS3 platforms. I assume it involves paperwork and negotiations, which Bioware/EA should be fully capable of, again, if done a little bit at a time to not lessen the involvement of their current projects.

P.S. Your endquote Taciter, never had I heard truer words spoken.

[Taciter]

Haha, you flatter me Seraph... I'm an armchair philosopher but I'm nothing if not passionate!

Totally agree with your assessment TDS, if this were a case of platform specific DLC's requiring extensive recompilation in order to port them over to another platform then the practical implications might warrant further scrutiny (and even then I suspect the initial outlay would be recouped in a timely fashion) but it's not. We're talking about 'existing' content native to each platform and readily available for distributon, the only restriction is the availability of 'activation' codes, hell, they already have the means from which to publish said content - 'The Cerberus Network' and Bioware's own File Server.

It really does defy logic, I can only guess that Bioware/EA have found themselves in the tight grip of a contractual obligation with certain third parties and have to wait for said contracts to mature. In any case, I see no reason why we shouldn't be hopeful of an eventual release so long as we (the troublesome few) periodically remind our erstwhile benefactors that we still exist and we aren't going away. Hell, if they're looking for a timely injection of development funds... look no further, we're willing and waiting! =D.

Modifié par Taciter, 30 septembre 2011 - 12:21 .

[SuperNova42]

Well said, Taciter and Seraph. With ME2 being as old as it is, the fact that all the content has not been made broadly available can only be due to some contractual obligations. 

There was a period of time last year where the Terminus gear was free for PS3 owners to download. No doubt that was down to Sony and BW trying to attract as many new PS3 owners to the franchise as possible. 

The fact that it eventually became paid dlc may indicate it is just a timed exclusive on PS3 and that there may be an intention to bring it to the other platforms eventually. I mean why only offer it free for only one month if it's exclusive to the platform? Of course I could be grasping at straws here but I'm willing to consider all possible scenarios to explain its absence from PC/360.

I guess our only option now is to see what will happen in January and February next year. The Dr Pepper promo will have expired and ME2 will have been on PS3 for a year, a reasonable amount of time to claim a timed exclusive I think. It's possible but I don't see the remaining ME2 content being released after ME3 hits shelves; I'm sure EA will want all focus on the new title at that point.

[Taciter]

SuperNova42 wrote...

Well said, Taciter and Seraph. With ME2 being as old as it is, the fact that all the content has not been made broadly available can only be due to some contractual obligations. 

There was a period of time last year where the Terminus gear was free for PS3 owners to download. No doubt that was down to Sony and BW trying to attract as many new PS3 owners to the franchise as possible. 

The fact that it eventually became paid dlc may indicate it is just a timed exclusive on PS3 and that there may be an intention to bring it to the other platforms eventually. I mean why only offer it free for only one month if it's exclusive to the platform? Of course I could be grasping at straws here but I'm willing to consider all possible scenarios to explain its absence from PC/360.

I guess our only option now is to see what will happen in January and February next year. The Dr Pepper promo will have expired and ME2 will have been on PS3 for a year, a reasonable amount of time to claim a timed exclusive I think. It's possible but I don't see the remaining ME2 content being released after ME3 hits shelves; I'm sure EA will want all focus on the new title at that point.

Bang on Nova! As you say, the game isn't over yet...

There are several possible outcomes:

1) EA for some inexplicable reason has decided to alienate a notable section of it's customer base and wants them to go away and die.

- net profits: $Reasonable
*(ME3 sales minus payday from DLC sales)

2) Bioware has become so incredibly apathetic that they don't want to make any more money and have simply been coerced into developing ME3 by EA's head shed prior to mass voluntary redundancy to pursue wholesome and fulfilling lives serving out Burgers at McDonald's

- net profits: $Reasonable
*(ME3 profits + redundancies to slash overheads)

3) EA wishes it hadn't capitulated to the demands of Sony and still regrets its hasty association with trendy pop drink manufacturer...

3a) EA is waiting for contracts to mature, will then release DLC's seperately or consolidated as part of a 'get ready for ME3 - see what you've missed so far!' launch promo.

-net profits: $OODLES OF HONEST CASH
*(Paragon option [Incentivised newcomers + loyal followers])

3b) EA is waiting for contracts to mature, will then release 'Mass Effect Platinum Edition' (provisional name) may be changed to 'Mass Effect: The Trilogy' consisting of ME1, ME2 and ME3 + ALL existing DLC's.

-net profits: $OODLES OF SWEATY CASH
*(Renegade option [gullable obsessionals like me + disgruntled PS owners who moan about lack of ME1])

My bet is on (3b) since business has no sense of moral rectitude! =P

Modifié par Taciter, 30 septembre 2011 - 02:28 .

[XxBmLaAnCtKisxX]

I got a question; I just bought a new copy of me2 for ps3 two days ago and i want to know if i can cash in on my dlc or am i genophaged?

[rokbar rob]

Wow so ps3 owners wait ages for me2 to come out get a slap in the face because me1 wasn't intended to be released and Everyone goes up in arms about a few dlc packs as for the comic I would think it's fare to say that x box and pc users got to play 1 2 and 3 where as ps3 uses missed out that's why the genesis comic has come out for us I for one am happy that bioware has given us exclusive as we had to wait years to do what pc and xbox gamers have been able to do from the start its about damn time the big company's did something to half way apologise for what for me was a big disappointment thanks bw