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[Fearn]

I've just spent the last hour trying to defeat the harvester in the golems of Amgarrak expansion on hard, and after thinking I had killed him (which made me very happy) it turned out there's a whole new boost of health he gets and I get obliterated.

I'm playing through as a mage; any useful advice on taking him down would be much appreciated!

[Loerwyn]

Ask here.

[Frocharocha]

yeah he is sooooo hard.Try beat him at easy mode.Explore all amarack to upgrade the Runic Golem to Heal Ablites.if u are using a aweking character will be alot easist.if u are not a mage try keep yourgolem alive.Play with Brogan equip him a bow.When the skeleton came desacitivate the eswitch.Bronto thr snug is a good help.When he dies summon him again.Use fire enchantems.or use the magic to taint your weapons with fire damage.

[MKDAWUSS]

Win if you can, cheat if you must.

[Notmarki]

I found he was near on impossible for me on hard on my origins clear. But after the level boost from awakening he is manageable

[antigravitycat]

Look at this thread, it helped some others and me at least:

http://social.biowar...6/index/5851013

[Thor Rand Al]

Ya I finally got the Grim Reaper achievement the other day, not easy thats for sure. Just keep at it n hope you've got a lot of healing potions lol

[Addai]

Finally got Grim Reaper myself, on a melee character even.  But only because I had a gazillion potions (I started collecting Deep Mushrooms for stamina potions even in Origins) and because I brought some Manuals of Focus over from Awakening.  I re-spec'ed the warrior character to DW Fade Warrior, which kept him from dying in five seconds flat as he usually does.  Also put Venture on him for the +12 constitution.  Re-spec'ed the rogue to include an archery attack so he could scattershot the corpses and occasionally pull away to ranged.  Both my rogue and he had Legionnaire Scout which is almost a must-have, and Ranger which is nice to divert some of the aggro.  We had everyone but the golem standing at the end.

No doubt the power players consider all that cheating but WTH. 

Modifié par Addai67, 09 février 2011 - 06:26 .

[antigravitycat]

Addai67 wrote...

Finally got Grim Reaper myself, on a melee character even.  But only because I had a gazillion potions (I started collecting Deep Mushrooms for stamina potions even in Origins) and because I brought some Manuals of Focus over from Awakening.  I re-spec'ed the warrior character to DW Fade Warrior, which kept him from dying in five seconds flat as he usually does.  Also put Venture on him for the +12 constitution.  Re-spec'ed the rogue to include an archery attack so he could scattershot the corpses and occasionally pull away to ranged.  Both my rogue and he had Legionnaire Scout which is almost a must-have, and Ranger which is nice to divert some of the aggro.  We had everyone but the golem standing at the end.

No doubt the power players consider all that cheating but WTH. 

Wow, so you made Brogan a DW too? And he survived that? When I played he barely even survived as a fully pumped tank, equipped with the very best stuff I had, shield wall on et cetera.
Would you be so nice and tell me how you distributed the attribute points for him (Strength, Dexterity etc.)? It seems that your build is much more effective than mine. I'd really like to improve my DW warrior (or my next one).

[Fearn]

This fight frustrated me so much trying to do it on hard, but more because it confused the hell out of me as I was always getting swamped in the second part of the fight, yet the first part was no problem at all (as long as I kept pushing the switch.)

Didn't understand this as everyone generally agrees the second part is easiest, but far too many skeletons appear for me and I spend all my time healing rather than dealing damage.
Hope to give hard another shot soon though

[Addai]

antigravitycat wrote...
Wow, so you made Brogan a DW too? And he survived that? When I played he barely even survived as a fully pumped tank, equipped with the very best stuff I had, shield wall on et cetera.
Would you be so nice and tell me how you distributed the attribute points for him (Strength, Dexterity etc.)? It seems that your build is much more effective than mine. I'd really like to improve my DW warrior (or my next one).

Survived?  He thrived.    He was actually dealing damage as opposed to just standing around guzzling potions.  I'll have to check when I get home what the attribute spread was, but it was a basic DW warrior setup with points spread between dex, str, will and con.

My philosophy in Origins was always to make everyone high DPS and that seemed to work well here, though defense is also important.  For my two rogues that was Evasion plus the Legion Scout talents, for Brogan his Beyond the Fade mode.  Reading online, people also use Evasion runes on warriors.  I didn't have any of those as I avoid the Runecraft mess in Awakening.

[antigravitycat]

Addai67 wrote...

antigravitycat wrote...
Wow, so you made Brogan a DW too? And he survived that? When I played he barely even survived as a fully pumped tank, equipped with the very best stuff I had, shield wall on et cetera.
Would you be so nice and tell me how you distributed the attribute points for him (Strength, Dexterity etc.)? It seems that your build is much more effective than mine. I'd really like to improve my DW warrior (or my next one).

Survived?  He thrived.    He was actually dealing damage as opposed to just standing around guzzling potions.  I'll have to check when I get home what the attribute spread was, but it was a basic DW warrior setup with points spread between dex, str, will and con.

My philosophy in Origins was always to make everyone high DPS and that seemed to work well here, though defense is also important.  For my two rogues that was Evasion plus the Legion Scout talents, for Brogan his Beyond the Fade mode.  Reading online, people also use Evasion runes on warriors.  I didn't have any of those as I avoid the Runecraft mess in Awakening.

Thanks for your answer, that's interesting, I will have to try that myself. When you happen to flip through the attribute sheet of the DW warrior again, a screenshot or something would be very cool to have indeed. Much appreciated!

(I should have given Jerrik the Legion's training too, seems very good. But I was too lazy to set up all the tactics to make him use the abilities right. ^^)

Modifié par antigravitycat, 10 février 2011 - 09:17 .

[Appolo90]

I was left with 2 potions by the time I got to him.. ended up on reverting to normal difficulty though. I changed Jerrik to an archer, kept Brogan as a tank, my main is a two-handed powerhouse (level 32 at the time), and the Golem blows but he healed a bit.



So, my tactic was to deal as much damage as I could right off the bat and use my two potions on Brogan as needed. He dies, golem dies. Then I started "kiting" that fatso while letting Jerrik arrow his arse. When he would switch attention to Jerrik, I used him to kite and my main to take some swings. If he was about to throw his flesh... stuff (ew), it's easy to dodge if you just strafe as he throws it.



So then he got the health boost, and I guess he glitched because the little thing never moved as I took my swings at him and killed him. Cool >_>



So try kiting.. something I used often in my MMO years

[Addai]

antigravitycat wrote...
Thanks for your answer, that's interesting, I will have to try that myself. When you happen to flip through the attribute sheet of the DW warrior again, a screenshot or something would be very cool to have indeed. Much appreciated!

(I should have given Jerrik the Legion's training too, seems very good. But I was too lazy to set up all the tactics to make him use the abilities right. ^^)

Ok, I took a screenshot of his character page.  Now some build nerd is gonna come on and say you did it wroooong but just remember I was improvising and don't claim to be an expert. 



He has on:
Helm of Hirol's Defense for +4 con, +6 defense
Gauntlets of Hirol's Defense for +4 str, 3% crit chance, +1 armor
Venture for +12 con and +12 defense
Boots of Hirol's Defense for +6 con
Illumination amulet for +3 all attributes
2 x Ring of the Warrior for a total of +4 str and +4 dex

He's wielding Atonement (a mod sword) with +6 def and +10 attack and Dumat's Spine with +6 attack, .75 stamina regen, +15% crit chance and flaming

I have some elemental runes on there, nothing too fancy since I didn't do any runecrafting in Awakening.

That's my Brogan Reboot.  He was awesome.

Oh, and here's his tactics page in case that helps.  The only thing that I'd change was to activate Beyond the Veil at 75% or 50% health.  Or, just keep it on as it helps him not take damage.  I didn't end up using any of his Guardian or Spirit Warrior talents other than that.  I did use War Cry on the skeletons.

Modifié par Addai67, 11 février 2011 - 02:11 .

[Sorafolktale]

I finished the entire Origins and was playing awakening on Nightmare difficulty.

With a few reloads once ina while, but in general, with not much problems.

I'm on probably the first part of awakening, cause my warrior is lv26. So, i played witch Hunt and finished on Nightmare. Piece of a cake.

Then did Golems on nightmare too .... But the end fight was almost impossible to do. Tried too many times and, sometimes went to second part of fight, but then hp potions were over and wiped.

So, against my will, i went down to Hard dif.

First that i had 0 potions when i started Golems...

Second, i didnt upgraded the golem with lightning or heal or revival , missed just that room. only founded out AFTER killed him on Hard =(

It's insane the damage i was taking on Nightmare. And with little potions and no heals, was kinda impossible.

Maybe i'll try again now that i saved before battle and got the upgrades too and resaved there.



But in the end, i finished on lv27 warrior with 3-4 itens from Awakening only and less than 20 health potions and no lightning/heal/revival upgrades on golem and left the other chars builds as they were received. And only the main character was alive when i killed the bastard. But did it.

In some way, i'm proud of that lol.

Yeah, i known, i like to suffer.

[Nimpe]

I could barely win on my lvl 34 dw warrior. Once I got to the second stage (my teammates were no help) I only survived by running away waiting for holy smite ( or whatever that templar ranged ability is called) to cool down and shooting that at him every 30 seconds.

[antigravitycat]

Addai67 wrote...

antigravitycat wrote...
Thanks for your answer, that's interesting, I will have to try that myself. When you happen to flip through the attribute sheet of the DW warrior again, a screenshot or something would be very cool to have indeed. Much appreciated!

(I should have given Jerrik the Legion's training too, seems very good. But I was too lazy to set up all the tactics to make him use the abilities right. ^^)

Ok, I took a screenshot of his character page.  Now some build nerd is gonna come on and say you did it wroooong but just remember I was improvising and don't claim to be an expert. 



He has on:
Helm of Hirol's Defense for +4 con, +6 defense
Gauntlets of Hirol's Defense for +4 str, 3% crit chance, +1 armor
Venture for +12 con and +12 defense
Boots of Hirol's Defense for +6 con
Illumination amulet for +3 all attributes
2 x Ring of the Warrior for a total of +4 str and +4 dex

He's wielding Atonement (a mod sword) with +6 def and +10 attack and Dumat's Spine with +6 attack, .75 stamina regen, +15% crit chance and flaming

I have some elemental runes on there, nothing too fancy since I didn't do any runecrafting in Awakening.

That's my Brogan Reboot.  He was awesome.

Oh, and here's his tactics page in case that helps.  The only thing that I'd change was to activate Beyond the Veil at 75% or 50% health.  Or, just keep it on as it helps him not take damage.  I didn't end up using any of his Guardian or Spirit Warrior talents other than that.  I did use War Cry on the skeletons.

Hey thanks a lot for this! You also made screens of the tactics, perfect! That will help me a lot and I will take a new run on the harvester to test it. I'm sure Brogan will fare well with that setup, at least he will do much better than before, I am sure. Before he didn't really impress me, I tried to make him a good shield tank. Or maybe I did it wrong... Anyway, thanks again, much appreciated!

[Jefro157]

Tried it on hard with a level 22 arcane warrior, Jerrik rebuilt as an archer. Phase one is doable, but the skeletons overwhelm in phase two (kiting doesn't even work because eventually one will land a riposte), making it pretty much impossible. Giving up until my character is a higher level.

[Markz2]

I beat him up with a mage / arcane warrior / spiritual healer / battle mage lvl 35. Armored with the sentinel parts, spellfury as first weapon, that awesome sword that wade makes for you with the dragonbones and landsmeet shield. To get the flesh golem itself on hard is troublesome but manageable, and everytime that a lot of skelletons comes with him and he get buffed, i used the switch to help a little, but the main problem is the second part. Brodan was the only one standing tall, and though I had time spiral and revival, it was out of hand to trying to revive those fallen. So I uses elemental chaos and called the skelletons attentions, and started running at the stage and those who followed me just kept on getting elemental damage and kept an eye at brodan's HP and made him use potions whenever he was 65< HP. I took days and many attempts, but I got it

[gneisenau556]

What I did was use a respec tome. I put almost all my points into dex (so it like over 100),and a bit into strength. I picked all the archery talents. Turn on aim and accuracy, and your critical chance is like over 100%, and your def will be so high that you can dodge many attacks. With this setup you could solo the harvester on hard.