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AdmiralCheez

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@GodWood: Hey, I'd hit it!

(Seriously, no. Let's not sexually harass every single crewmember, Shep.)

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 07 novembre 2010 - 08:03 .


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At the risk of beating a dead Prothean...



It's fairly evident that no one, so far, has wanted to see a romance option with the squid face aliens, if that is indeed what they would look like. That seems to be covered by the 'if viable' that the op stated. However, if you could take every minute I had to use to scan planets for the bare minimum needed resources to upgrade weapons, abilities and the Normandy and replace it with a 'go get Prothean squadmate mission'/sub-plot I'd take it in a heart beat.

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This is quite an interesting idea. It would be good to have a reaper as a squad mate.

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szkasypcze wrote...

This is quite an interesting idea. It would be good to have a reaper as a squad mate.


You're funny.  I like you.  Either that or you're serious, in which case you're insane.  Or maybe "reaper" was a typo.  Reapers and protheans are two very different things.

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 07 novembre 2010 - 10:06 .


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yes, because the protheans could actually live that long :/

it's seems rather clichéd anyway, unless there so happened to be a "hidden" place in which protheans themselves didn't know that there were other protheans in secret who were in stasis and had a reactor with an unlimited energy resource then it would be very hard to justify let alone seem plausible without resorting to recreational drugs for inspiration.

[insert one long spoiler] to keep the story solid.

Modifié par mad825, 07 novembre 2010 - 10:24 .


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I don't think that a prothean romance would be acceptable by many fans - that being said, I believe that seeing the Protheans in Mass Effect 3 will be quite satisfying to all the fans out there. However, I don't think that the Protheans should appear in the current time of events. I think it would be rather interesting to have another beacon such as the ones on Virmire and Eden Prime - but rather than broadcasting a distress signal, it would in fact be a data device that would 'teleport' Shepard back to a time just before the fall of the Protheans when the Reapers first emerge - per se.



When I use the word 'teleport' I don't mean, literally. What I propose is that the data would be transmitted to Shepard's mind, such as the other beacons, and he would be a non-coporeal observer during the time said data was recorded and he could watch the attack unfold. Or possibly, it could be knowlegde of a weapon or some such that could help with the fight against the Reapers. As Mass Effect (to me, anyway) seems to emphisis the saying 'Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.' (though actions, not words.) in a large number of the events, to me it seems to fit. Given the rariety of these beacons in the universe, I believe that it would be hard to write it into canon, but not impossible.



Having a Prothean appear in person - living - is clichéd at best. If it was dead and being used for study - then I wouldn't hold issue against it. But having a 'sanctuary world' where a group of Protheans managed to survive and repopulate is too predictable, boring and quite frankly is a story killer.

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GodWood wrote...

Judging from the beacons protheans look like Cthulhu.
You really want to romance this?
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SAN roll: Lose 4 SAN.

San now -2.

Teeheeeheeehee!:o

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antagonist99 wrote...

GodWood wrote...

Judging from the beacons protheans look like Cthulhu.
You really want to romance this?
Image IPB



SAN roll: Lose 4 SAN.

San now -2.

Teeheeeheeehee!:o


The answer to that should be a flat out "NO" across the board.

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GodWood wrote...

Judging from the beacons protheans look like Cthulhu.
You really want to romance this?
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The Japanese do?

Okay that might be taken as offensive. But i'm just saying that a Prothean squadmate is a generally bad idea. It makes no sense at all.

Modifié par Cra5y Pineapple, 07 novembre 2010 - 02:45 .


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casedawgz wrote...

HHS_spartan wrote...

Never ever going to happen. It just doesnt make sense and is completely unrealistic. That would be like having a forerunner squad mate in Halo or something.


The Forerunners were human. So technically, every Halo game is full of them.


The Forerunners werent humans, They werent biologicaly related either. Humans were meant to take on their legacy after the Forerunners left. Like how the Precursors passed their legacy to the Forerunners when they left.

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Aurora313 wrote...

I don't think that a prothean romance would be acceptable by many fans - that being said, I believe that seeing the Protheans in Mass Effect 3 will be quite satisfying to all the fans out there. However, I don't think that the Protheans should appear in the current time of events. I think it would be rather interesting to have another beacon such as the ones on Virmire and Eden Prime - but rather than broadcasting a distress signal, it would in fact be a data device that would 'teleport' Shepard back to a time just before the fall of the Protheans when the Reapers first emerge - per se.

When I use the word 'teleport' I don't mean, literally. What I propose is that the data would be transmitted to Shepard's mind, such as the other beacons, and he would be a non-coporeal observer during the time said data was recorded and he could watch the attack unfold. Or possibly, it could be knowlegde of a weapon or some such that could help with the fight against the Reapers. As Mass Effect (to me, anyway) seems to emphisis the saying 'Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.' (though actions, not words.) in a large number of the events, to me it seems to fit. Given the rariety of these beacons in the universe, I believe that it would be hard to write it into canon, but not impossible.

Having a Prothean appear in person - living - is clichéd at best. If it was dead and being used for study - then I wouldn't hold issue against it. But having a 'sanctuary world' where a group of Protheans managed to survive and repopulate is too predictable, boring and quite frankly is a story killer.


^ This way shorter and nicely phrased then I would've done it! I like the idea of via beacon mentally being brought back into the Prothean world maybe the player can play a prothean and go through the events to a point that would be the only way I'd accept a good Prothean in the story line I really really am apposed to the whole prothean as squad mate theory it's like the marines in Aliens suddenly gaining a Xenomorph squad mate who decides while Ripley is running through the hive to save Newt that hey I think I'll be the sole turn coat in my hive and help the humans! Really really a dumb idea!  

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As long as we see the spirit of the collector general at the end of ME3 with Shepard giving cheesy smile and a thumbs up...................

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I'd like to know what the Protheans actually looked like. But I agree with what has been said: how could one still be alive?? Makes no sense whatsoever to me. Someone else besides Shepard would have to have found the Prothean pods on Ilos a VERY long time ago. Some weird cloning? Nope, nothing makes sense. If BW comes up with a plausible explanation, this *could* be interesting. The Protheans are the reason the Reapers haven't killed everyone yet. So it would be nice payback to have a living Prothean find the key to their destruction. But that, too, sounds kinda cheesy, I have to admit...

No Prothean squadmate! LI? You gotta be kidding...I doubt the poor thing (if just discovered) has the strength and inclination for either.

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Kappa Neko wrote...

I'd like to know what the Protheans actually looked like. But I agree with what has been said: how could one still be alive?? Makes no sense whatsoever to me. Someone else besides Shepard would have to have found the Prothean pods on Ilos a VERY long time ago. Some weird cloning? Nope, nothing makes sense. If BW comes up with a plausible explanation, this *could* be interesting. The Protheans are the reason the Reapers haven't killed everyone yet. So it would be nice payback to have a living Prothean find the key to their destruction. But that, too, sounds kinda cheesy, I have to admit...
No Prothean squadmate! LI? You gotta be kidding...I doubt the poor thing (if just discovered) has the strength and inclination for either.


I think they look like the statues on Ilos. The tentacle face things in the chairs. But then again could be something else.

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Cra5y Pineapple wrote...

GodWood wrote...

Judging from the beacons protheans look like Cthulhu.
You really want to romance this?
Image IPB

The Japanese do?

Okay that might be taken as offensive. But i'm just saying that a Prothean squadmate is a generally bad idea. It makes no sense at all.


Hey, look! It's a male asari!

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annihilator27 wrote...
I think they look like the statues on Ilos. The tentacle face things in the chairs. But then again could be something else.


I get that. But I want to know what they look like in the flesh. A flashback would satisfy me.

Anybody else think of Pirates of the Caribbean when they look at the picture posted here??
Tantacles are NOT cool!

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GodWood wrote...

Judging from the beacons protheans look like Cthulhu.
You really want to romance this?
Image IPB



Prothean squadmate? Looks more like a Prothean squidmate to me.:whistle:

Also, Protheans are extinct. Dead as doornails. Every last one of them. The Collectors should be largely extinct (or at least on the endangered species list) as of the end of ME2. So, where would we get one of those?

Modifié par Chloe_W1971, 07 novembre 2010 - 06:44 .


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I just think the whole idea of a prothean squadmate in part three is ridiculous. Besides I dont really want it. It kinda takes away from the whole sad story of the long extinct race whose final members gave there live to protect the next group of spacefarers. To then just go oh wait! there was a whole group of them hidden away! Or we found one floating somewhere! Just seems kinda lame and less epic.



Let the protheans have there noble death. It wouldn't make much sense and besides that the story in 3 shouldn't be focused about that but the reapers. I can almost guarantee that this is never going to happen i would put money on it. Because if you step back the whole concept seems silly and overdone.

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HHS_spartan wrote...

Let the protheans have there noble death. It wouldn't make much sense and besides that the story in 3 shouldn't be focused about that but the reapers. I can almost guarantee that this is never going to happen i would put money on it. Because if you step back the whole concept seems silly and overdone.


^This.

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I find it very revealing that the fan base has quite clearly accepted the idea of Tali, Garrus and Thane as romantic interests, all fairly unattractive by most human standards, yet the concept of a Prothean, which is in no way going to look like the squid face (if they did than Bioware would probably have the foresight to not put an LI option in...again 'IF VIABLE") that has been posted, is so objectionable.

We haven't even seen Tali's face yet and she is still a highly popular and welcomed romance option in ME 2. She's got Ninja Turtle hands and feet. Garrus has the abdomen of an insect and the face of a lizard cat. Thane just looks like a lizard; yet, the fan base has proven that it can get passed surface differences and find various species, or at least certain members of those species viable as romance options.

As far as the realism, or practicality of the idea of finding a Prothean stasis pod that was able to stay powered by a unique source and hidden in a secret Prothean ruin, I don't understand how anyone couldn't see this as viable. The suspension of disbelief required here is no greater, than Shepard being brought back, exactly as he/she was by a project called 'Lazarus.' If you didn't balk at that cheese, than a possible Prothean squadmate should be quite easy to handle.

If the concept of giant, eternal mystery machines that sleep in dark space and come to rid the milky way galaxy of all sentient/advanced organic life every fifty thousand years for no apparent reason doesn't offend the senses, my proposal shouldn't either.

Lastly, everything in ME can be made to sound ridiculous if cast in the wrong light. Asari, Krogen, Salarian, Turian, Reapers...each of these character archetypes can easily be considered asinine, yet they are all accepted and liked as part of the ME universe, despite the fact that we have seen a different version of these realized in almost any piece of contemporary sci-fi prior to ME.

Modifié par jetwolfprime, 07 novembre 2010 - 07:31 .


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Why haven't the Protheans come forward during those 50.000 years since the last extinction cycle? They could've uplifted the current races to be ready this time around. No, I think the Protheans are dead, dead, dead. So no Prothean squidmate squadmate or LI in ME3

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Even if they did find a prothean why have it be a squadmate? Who would put the last surviving member of a species in such risk? Besides like I said involving a prothean would take up way to much story for part 3 maybe for a part 2 but not part 3

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vehzeel wrote...

Why haven't the Protheans come forward during those 50.000 years since the last extinction cycle? They could've uplifted the current races to be ready this time around. No, I think the Protheans are dead, dead, dead. So no Prothean squidmate squadmate or LI in ME3


I believe  I covered that with the 'stasis pod'. As far as why the pod didn't wake said Prothean up, a myriad of justifications or logical reasons can be created for said scenario. The first one that comes to mind is a malfunction in the waking protocols, or the stasis pods program registered a ressurgence of the Reapers due to activity on the citadel and chose not to wake the occupant; if Shepard hadn't happend along to find said pod, the occupant would have gone on sleeping indefinitely, or until the pods power source was exhausted. Keep in mind, the Protheans have power sources that can keep their beacons functions after 50,000 years, maybe they just hook a few of those power sources up and plug them into the pod.

One thing to keep in mind while considering a Prothean squdmate is that this is science fiction, anything is possible/plausible if given the proper attention to detail.

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Just because somethings possible and they could do it doesnt mean they SHOULD do it. Its a lot like the people wanting lightsabers swords and horses.

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HHS_spartan wrote...

Even if they did find a prothean why have it be a squadmate? Who would put the last surviving member of a species in such risk? Besides like I said involving a prothean would take up way to much story for part 3 maybe for a part 2 but not part 3


Why have a Geth? Why almost 2/3 of the way through the second game?

Legion was put in the game to add depth to a  race, who prior to that, were a sort of dis-embodied menace accidentally created by the Quarians. Shepard consistently fought the Geth, but they were never the real problem and once discovered not to be the real problem could largely have been ignored with the exception of incidental combat encounters. Bioware did this to bring a largely unimportant, yet interesting species into the foreground of the ME universe rather than let them slip farther and farther into the background.

Protheans are more story pivotal and interesting to me than another manifestation of AI gone wrong...hence the suggestion.