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[Quercus]

I just went to the toilet and man did something ugly just got squeezed out of me...
It was brown and had a really weird shape, and if this thread will continue to presume it will turn out the same!

Modifié par Shiroukai, 07 novembre 2010 - 02:54 .

[triggerhappy456]

It must be closing down as soon as someone from Bioware sees it, we've been off topic for pages now

[Saibh]

MIke_18 wrote...

I allready said that Sims 3 was released on ALL consoles a while ago and it didn't even scrape what it sold on PC.

By "awhile" I'm sure you mean October 26 (which, unfortunately was the same date as the more anticipated Force Unleashed II, Rock Band 3, and Fable III), and has yet to be released on the Wii.

Besides that, Sims 3 is a PC game through and through. Any body--even casual gamers--release that it's full potential as a micromanaging black hole of eternity and free user content comes on the PC. The consoles just weren't made to match. That doesn't mean consoles are inferior somehow. Sims 3 will never sell as well on the consoles--but keep in mind the other factors, like the game having already been out for a few years, with most of its fans owning the expansion packs they want.

You know what's great about consoles? More people can play their games. Don't think about it like "EA makes more money". Think about all the extra people who can enjoy BioWare's games. Not everyone owns a gaming computer. Some own old, crappy pieces of bolts and wires that can hardly load Solitaire, let alone next-gen games. Some own non-gaming laptops or netbooks. Some people own better TV screens than they do monitors.

Modifié par Saibh, 07 novembre 2010 - 03:28 .

[Ziggeh]

You know I've yet to see or read of a change that doesn't seem like a direct response to a criticism I'd have had while playing DA:O.

Maybe you thought it was perfect. Maybe you were in ecstatic as you vendored yet another grey dagger, as you reloaded the game because the dialogue option you chose turned out to mean something you hadn't intended. Maybe you prefered your your party to look like they were dressing in theme and prefered a certain level of detachment from the character you play.

I've yet to see anything that takes away from any strong area of the game, only things that seemed weak, outdated or unnecessary.

The only thing I can see that might feasibly be a concern is a vague sense that it's looking a little less hard fantasy and a little more high adventure, but as the only thing I have to base that upon is advertising, which of course is going to concentrate on the faster pace and journalistic reviews, which of course are going to make easy comparisons, it would be ludicrous of me to hold that assumption so strongly that I would complain about it on a forum provided by the developers.

[StingingVelvet]

Saibh wrote...

Besides that, Sims 3 is a PC game through and through. Any body--even casual gamers--release that it's full potential as a micromanaging black hole of eternity and free user content comes on the PC. The consoles just weren't made to match.

And long ago, in a distant land, RPGs had the same benefits and complexity that PC exclusives allow.

[Saibh]

StingingVelvet wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Besides that, Sims 3 is a PC game through and through. Any body--even casual gamers--release that it's full potential as a micromanaging black hole of eternity and free user content comes on the PC. The consoles just weren't made to match.

And long ago, in a distant land, RPGs had the same benefits and complexity that PC exclusives allow.

And that's not for everyone.

I think the problem is that you want for them to make a niche just for you and the extremely few players that like that niche. That's fine, I understand. But that's not what they're doing. I've enjoyed pretty much every BioWare game, despite all of the changes. Maybe I'm a plebe, but so far I don't see many changes in the things that made DAO fundamentally what it is. Maybe the biggest one is they're using a "Hawke" instead of "the Champion". Maybe the dialogue wheel counts too. I haven't really seen it in action.

[StingingVelvet]

Saibh wrote...

And that's not for everyone.

I think the problem is that you want for them to make a niche just for you and the extremely few players that like that niche.

Extremely few?  I remember Baldur's Gate and the like selling a lot of units, I think more people enjoyed those kinds of RPGs than me and my two buddies.

Do 10,000,000 people enjoy those kinds of complex and deep RPGs?  No.  Do Bioware want to sell 10,000,000 units and be the mainstream king of the RPG?  Yes, obviously.  Do I care about that?  No.  All I can do is give my opinions and feedback in a polite way from my perspective, which I believe I do.  Telling me that the people who want boom-boom-flashy-action RPGs outnumber me is not a revelation, I know that.  The people who want to watch something like Transformers 2 instead of Gattaca outnnumbers me as well, but that doesn't mean I should instantly start considering Transformers 2 to be a good movie.

I grew up on Fallout, Baldur's Gate, Might and Magic World of Xeen, Morrowind, Betrayal at Krondor and other such masterpieces.  I still play RPGs today as long as they are not too brain-dead, but I am sad at the lost complexity, depth and freedom for the user that modern RPGs suffer from.  There's nothing wrong with that... it bums me out, for good reason.  Telling me Bioware are making more money because of it doesn't make me happier.

[Pacifien]

Not DA2 related.

[Saibh]

StingingVelvet wrote...

Extremely few?  I remember Baldur's Gate and the like selling a lot of units, I think more people enjoyed those kinds of RPGs than me and my two buddies.

Back then, those were the only RPGs offered. Besides that, people have this illusion that DAO is an expy of BG. Do you know how many people complained on and on and on that DAO wasn't anything like BG? That it was mainstreaming, that it was being dumbed down? 

A lot was changed. I'm saying that if BG was released now with updated graphics, I doubt it'd do that well.

I grew up on Fallout, Baldur's Gate, Might and Magic World of Xeen, Morrowind, Betrayal at Krondor and other such masterpieces.  I still play RPGs today as long as they are not too brain-dead, but I am sad at the lost complexity, depth and freedom for the user that modern RPGs suffer from.  There's nothing wrong with that... it bums me out, for good reason.  Telling me Bioware are making more money because of it doesn't make me happier.

And that has to suck. I didn't grow up on those games, so perhaps that's why I feel differently--I played recent BioWare games and loved them, then went back and played their other ones. Loved them, too.