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[soteria]

I was talking about Mass Effect 2. I played as a soldier had four "skills" to choose from and none of them made any difference because just shooting from cover was enough. That's not an RPG. Where's the meele class and stealth class? Where are the dialogue options based on your skills? Like if your character is charismatic he can convince people to see his way. Or If he's intellegent he can solve the quest one way, or If he's skilled in computers he can solve it another way, ect...There was none of this! You just go to one location shoot stuff , make a good bad/ decision, repeat.

Your first point is still nonsense. Whether or not you needed to put points in any skills to complete the game has nothing to do with it--I'm quite sure I could beat Origins with only starting skills.

Second, others have already pointed out that infiltrators can stealth (and get a damage bonus from stealth). Damage bonus from behind? This shouldn't be news to you, but a bullet to the head doesn't care what direction it comes from. Vanguards are pretty much melee, but it's more than a little silly to insist that RPGs have to have melee classes unless you think RPG = swords and sorcery fantasy.

Third, I certainly seem to recall picking up a skill that boosted my paragon/renegade score. That was the dialogue skill.

[Aermas]

MIke_18 wrote...

They're being derivative without it.

Bald space marines, Spectre = Jedi, Agressive "proud race" Krogan = Klingon, Cidatel = Federation, Synthetics with joint conciesnis , Borg = Geth.

You realize this is not a linear comparison?

[pitchblaq]

The Witcher changed stuff too. May you pollute their forums just as obnoxiously.

[MIke_18]

No it should have more ways of playing the game, the class you are should have an impact of how you play the game not just shoot from cover.

[Crimson-Cobalt]

The game is not even out and some people are already forming opinions about it.

Modifié par Crimson-Cobalt, 07 novembre 2010 - 12:46 .

[Aermas]

MIke_18 wrote...

No it should have more ways of playing the game, the class you are should have an impact of how you play the game not just shoot from cover.

& you can choose to be a Soldier with a gun, A Hacker with a gun, or a Wizard with a gun

[MIke_18]

Each class has four to five abilities, most of which are passive. Having a biotic push to do every twenty seconds does not change the way you play the game.

[triggerhappy456]

Come on this is completely off topic now

And you seriously think that a game about people in the future needs a guy who only fights with a knife or something like that? Your idea seem to be that Bioware commit plagiarism??

[MIke_18]

Are you serious? Have you played Dragon Age? LOL

[triggerhappy456]

Is that question aimed at me?

[Aermas]

MIke_18 wrote...

Are you serious? Have you played Dragon Age? LOL

How is Dragon Age plagiarized? Any other story of a spawn of human corrupting horde lead by a dragon-demon-god?

Modifié par Aermas, 07 novembre 2010 - 12:56 .

[MIke_18]

Yes the point being almost everything in that game was generic and unoriginal.

[Aermas]

MIke_18 wrote...

Yes the point being almost everything in that game was generic and unoriginal.

Generic is the opposite of plagiarism, please use have consistency  in your arguments

[triggerhappy456]

MIke_18 wrote...

Yes the point being almost everything in that game was generic and unoriginal.

Difference between generic and actually competely ripping ideas off, learn English
Dragon Age had so many different twists on the ideas, did YOU actually play it?
By the way is there anything you do like? You said you came here to complain about DAO being changed, but now your saying it was unoriginal

[Lukertin]

It must suck to be schizophrenic

[MIke_18]

I'm not the one who said they should copy lightsabers, but that they should have more diversity in how you play the game with different classes. I don' know how this thread got this far.





My orriginal point was that people shouldn't support the changes because Bioware is going the mainstream casual easy way. It's not really about improvement, it's about what will look more appealing to wider audiences, while saying to the millions of people who bought the game that they aren't good enough. Seriosly what's the best selling RPG this gen? Fallout 3 and New Vegas. Are they linear cinematic "awesome brah" action titles? No, at least New Vegas is one of the best RPG I've played in a while.

[MIke_18]

Yea Dragon Age had awesome new ideas, like Ancient evil rising and you're a part of elite unit and you must unite the races in order to stop it.



The elfs being treated like lesser beings.



The main boss being a dragon.



So orriginal.

[Aermas]

MIke_18 wrote...

I'm not the one who said they should copy lightsabers, but that they should have more diversity in how you play the game with different classes. I don' know how this thread got this far.


My orriginal point was that people shouldn't support the changes because Bioware is going the mainstream casual easy way. It's not really about improvement, it's about what will look more appealing to wider audiences, while saying to the millions of people who bought the game that they aren't good enough. Seriosly what's the best selling RPG this gen? Fallout 3 and New Vegas. Are they linear cinematic "awesome brah" action titles? No, at least New Vegas is one of the best RPG I've played in a while.

They could follow that but then they would be totally in left field with games that they don't make. Bethesda makes open world sandbox RPG's Bioware makes party RPG's.



& New Vegas is glichy so ha!

Modifié par Aermas, 07 novembre 2010 - 01:07 .

[triggerhappy456]

Lukertin wrote...

It must suck to be schizophrenic

 
Hahaha owned

[SnakeHelah]

What are you guys talking about New Vegas? I mean, It's a fun game, but no way comparable to Dragon age, different genres really. And Besides New vegas was all like fallout 3 except with new guns, quests, and areas. It used the same engine... Felt Like an expansion to me. And Also was not a single reason why I wanted to replay it. So yeah.

Modifié par SnakeHelah, 07 novembre 2010 - 01:11 .

[triggerhappy456]

MIke_18 wrote...

I'm not the one who said they should copy lightsabers, but that they should have more diversity in how you play the game with different classes. I don' know how this thread got this far.


My orriginal point was that people shouldn't support the changes because Bioware is going the mainstream casual easy way. It's not really about improvement, it's about what will look more appealing to wider audiences, while saying to the millions of people who bought the game that they aren't good enough. Seriosly what's the best selling RPG this gen? Fallout 3 and New Vegas. Are they linear cinematic "awesome brah" action titles? No, at least New Vegas is one of the best RPG I've played in a while.

Fallout 3 was good, not great. New Vegas is a broken and buggy mess, and gets quite broing even if it isnt breaking. Your point now seems to have changed to DA and ME suck hahaha

[Aermas]

MIke_18 wrote...

Yea Dragon Age had awesome new ideas, like Ancient evil rising and you're a part of elite unit and you must unite the races in order to stop it.

The elfs being treated like lesser beings.

The main boss being a dragon.

So orriginal.

Becasue Tolkien's elves (the most popular depiction) were subservient second class citizens. Humans not liking Elves =/= Elves are treated like lesser beings.

The boss at the end was a dragon because people like dragons & it was called DRAGON AGE!!!, not Loghian Age or something. & it was more than just a dragon it was a dragon demon-god

[MIke_18]

I'm not saying they should follow Bethesda, I'm saying it's not really a cinematic "awesome" game, yet it sells more, and dumbing everything down doesn't neceserally mean more sales.



The only hack and slash that sold this year is GOW III and dragon age II doesn't look nearly as epic.



Enslaved and Castlevania underpreformed majorly, despite great marketing and critical reception.

[SkillerSVK]

slucik

[MIke_18]

Ha..



You played The Witcher? Elves are treated as second hand citizens and are forced to live in ghetos and must form a resistance in the form of a terrorist organization. Bioware so ripped that off.



Ofcourse in The Witcher it's elves and Dwarfes, but here it didn't fit, because Dwarfs had to live in the mountains in the IronForge ripped off town.