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[kittycatArcane]

Posting this here because I dunno where else to post it.  >.< Someone feel free to move it elsewhere if there's someplace more appropriate.

Alright, so... I'm looking for a good rogue/fighter/SD build.  I know there's tons out there, but I checked them out and they really don't match what I'm after.  I want something that's good enough in combat but also good for RP, as I tend to play on RP-oriented servers:P

Necessary:
Elf
Either dual-wields shortswords or wields 1 rapier
Rogue-heavy for the fun stuff (Crippling strike, etc.)
At least 1 level of Shadowdancer (for HiPS)
Able to have 12+ charisma (because I'm a RP nutcase and like having RP stats)

Things that are nice to have but not necessary:
Epic Dodge
Self-Concealment (preferably V)
(Epic) Weapon Specialization

Other notes..
I'm throwing fighter in there because I found out the hard way that rogues have an abysmal AB if you don't throw Fighter or Ranger or something in there.  I don't really care how much, just as long as it doesn't overpower the Rogue.  The cheeseball level of SD is there because I love my HiPS.  (They should make it available to rogues as an epic bonus feat or something Ah well.)  If more Shadowdancer will fit in the build, well and good.  If not, 1 level is fine.  This is really just something that I can use on any server that isn't PvP-heavy.. so even if it only works well in PvM, that's all I need

So... anybody got any suggestions? I've tried building this but whenever I get something I want something else disappears.  (Usually the AB... -.-)

Modifié par kittycatArcane, 07 novembre 2010 - 06:00 .

[HipMaestro]

With your Cha prereq I'd expect CoT to be handier than Fighter even with only a few levels. If you don't mind waiting until level 11 to take your first level, that is. I'm thinking 12rog/8CoT pre-epic for 17BAB and some help with that AB problem, extra saves and DR. Just an idea.

Modifié par HipMaestro, 07 novembre 2010 - 06:34 .

[kittycatArcane]

I considered that, somewhat... problem is she's Chaotic Neutral, lol... but if that ends up being the only option then it could work.

[HipMaestro]

kittycatArcane wrote...

I considered that, somewhat... problem is she's Chaotic Neutral, lol... but if that ends up being the only option then it could work.

CoT only needs to be non-evil.

[kittycatArcane]

...oh. Lol. >_> For some reason I thought it was good only.

[Kail Pendragon]

If you want an elven Rogue/FTR/SD with a definite majority of Rogue levels you will incur in a 20% XP penalty sooner or later. Is this still ok with you?

[Kail Pendragon]

HipMaestro wrote...

With your Cha prereq I'd expect CoT to be handier than Fighter even with only a few levels. If you don't mind waiting until level 11 to take your first level, that is. I'm thinking 12rog/8CoT pre-epic for 17BAB and some help with that AB problem, extra saves and DR. Just an idea.

With a 12 CHA CoT special CHA powers are just moved one little step up from useless to next to useless. You can safely ignore them. The advantage of CoT is sacred defense (+1 ST for every 2 lvls in the PrC) and the absence of an XP penalty at the cost of 1 combat feat and access to WS/EWS. 

[Kail Pendragon]

Rogue 19/FTR 8/SD 13 (Rogue 8/SD 8/FTR 4 preepic) will net you ED, EWS and SCV no problem in addition to Crippling Strike, 41 mundane AB (39 dual wielding shortswords) and 31 naked AC. Halfling woul dbe a better race choice (no XP penalty and better AB/AC). SCV might easily not be worth the investment, a wand of Impr Invis most often is a sound substitute (assuming availability of such wands from one source or another).



Otherwise Rogue 29/FTR 10/SD 1 (Rogue 12/SD 1/FTR 7 preepic) nets similar results but with a higher SA bonus.

[kittycatArcane]

Both of those sound fine, really. XP penalties mean nothing to me, I'm so used to them because of crazy class combinations