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[New Jersey Nightmare]

Personally I think, A male, rogue, human, noble.
that way you start with your dog, and one of each of the claseses (morrigan being mage and alister being warrior)

[EmperorSahlertz]

I think that the Human Noble has the strongest connection to the story as a whole.

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

None really. Because there are so many different pathways, and the human noble might be connected to the the Landsmeet/monarch making angle, but to the overall story of the Wardens and Blight, the mages and dwarves have far more reaching connections and implications.



So in the end, none, really, gender not being an issue. Either sex can marry a monarch, and the DR is signifigant no matter who does, or doesn't, do it.

[electricfish]

Well...I'm thinking that City Elf has some merits. I'm not too sure about class, though. As a City Elf, you do have your connections to Denerim and the Landsmeet, but also the Dalish because of racial hertage. The mage tower and dwarven areas also host some potential sympathies from a City Elf, given the choice to offer salvation (per say) or damnation to those who are also repressed in their own way. With dwarves it's a little trickier, given the heavy political plot, but politics also plays a part in what happens in Alienages too.

[sylvanaerie]

My favorite character is female, elf, mage. Not only do you get two treaty quests that hit home (Redcliffe and Circle Tower) but you also get some of the best lines in the game.

I can't say which one however "completes" the game best as there are too many permutations to pick one over the other.

[Sarah1281]

New Jersey Nightmare wrote...

Personally I think, A male, rogue, human, noble.
that way you start with your dog, and one of each of the claseses (morrigan being mage and alister being warrior)

Aside from the fact that I don't see why starting with dog and one of each class has to do with 'completing' the game, you didn't explain why male. Of course, I really don't like the idea that there is one origin/gender/class that 'completes' the game more than the others because that sounds too much like 'which is the right origin to play' and this seems far more like 'which is your favorite.'

[mousestalker]

It's really a matter of taste. My preference has been and probably always will be for the female city elf rogue, but I've enjoyed all the origins. My least favourite used to be the Dalish, but there are some lines in Witch Hunt for the Dalish origin that are quite nice.

[CalJones]

My favourite runs have been male noble rogue, romancing Morrigan and then marrying Anora (Alistair exiled) and male mage romancing Zevran. I also have a male mage romancing Morrigan who went through the mirror with her, which I'm quite fond of. I prefer to play humans on the whole, and although female IRL, I prefer to play males on the whole because the avatars are nicer. (Also because that's the only way I get the royal ending - since Loghain is my favourite character, I can't do the marry Alistair/princess Cous Cous thing).

[kyles3]

my favorite part of the game is the bits leading up to and including the landsmeet, and i definitely feel more invested in my character when i'm playing through those bits if i'm a human noble or a city elf. just feels like there's more at stake when dealing with the major players (loghain, anora, eamon) in denerim.

but that is only one part of a very long game, after all. orzammar is about as long as the pre-landsmeet section, and is a much better experience when playing as a dwarf. no matter which race or class you choose, you'll feel more connected to one bit of the game than you will to most of the others.

Modifié par kyles3, 07 novembre 2010 - 05:45 .

[ejoslin]

My canon playthrough is female noble rogue who married Alistair and kept Zevran as a paramour. But I think race/class/gender is irrelevant as far as "complete" playthrough. All have different connections at different parts of the story.



I know a human noble's story, for instance, is not well fleshed out during the Orzammar quest line. Then again, dwarves don't have the same reason to hate Howe.

[Giggles_Manically]

Some origins fit better into certain points in the game:

Dwarves shine in Orzamar

Dalish wardens gets treated better during the Nature of the beast quest line

Mages get some nice lines in the tower especially if they are female.

Human Nobles get a really awesome confrontation with Howe, and more outcomes in the Landsmeet.

City Elves get some awesome content in the alienage.



While the human noble is fun to play I perfer the Dwarf endings much more to the Human noble ending.

[Bruddajakka]

All the Origins have some connection to the overall story except for the Dalish Elf really. But considering the number of locked Chests you find early on it's almost as if the game wants you to be a Rogue.

[Giggles_Manically]

Bruddajakka wrote...

All the Origins have some connection to the overall story except for the Dalish Elf really. But considering the number of locked Chests you find early on it's almost as if the game wants you to be a Rogue.

Unless you have lock bash installed that is.

[Sarah1281]

Bruddajakka wrote...

All the Origins have some connection to the overall story except for the Dalish Elf really. But considering the number of locked Chests you find early on it's almost as if the game wants you to be a Rogue.

I'm just glad I can't recall any locked chests in the mage origin because that would be mean. It was already killing me when I tried to play a HN warrior and couldn't get into half of the rooms in Castle Cousland (XBox, tragically).

[Bruddajakka]

Yeah there's something ridiculous like ten locked chests/doors spread out over the first two parts of the HN origin.

[LupusYondergirl]

Sarah1281 wrote...
 I'm just glad I can't recall any locked chests in the mage origin because that would be mean. It was already killing me when I tried to play a HN warrior and couldn't get into half of the rooms in Castle Cousland (XBox, tragically).

There is one I can remember offhand, in Duncan's room behind the bed. 
But it's still there when you come back for the Circle quest, so you can just have Zevran or Leliana open it.  I don't even think there was anything good in there.  One of those dime a dozen apprentice amulets and some godawful mage dunce cap cowl. 

[Addai]

I always felt like human noble had the most organic connection to the main story line. It was hard to know why my Dalish character should care who was king of Ferelden. I solved that by having them romance Alistair, and hence his concern for Ferelden became theirs.



Personally, elf mage FTW! How a player connects to an origin is going to be based on personal taste. I never felt very connected to my Couslands. I was outside their story looking in. Good story, but not very absorbing. Same when I tried to play dwarves.

[Zjarcal]

I honestly don't understand why is gender part of the equation (other than for making poor sexists remarks). Nothing in the game favors either gender. Both female or male nobles can get the throne (and females actually get it with a companion, so that's a bigger tie to the storyline if anything). The rest will also have their moments.



As for Origins, yes, the HN does tie in better to the overall storyline due to the Landsmeet and civil war issues, but all the other Origins have their moments.

[mellifera]

In a story about Ferelden and when a major part of it has to do with the ruler of the country, a character that is Fereldan nobility is going to have a more obvious connection to the story. Mostly because they're tied directly to the Landsmeet and related issues. But at the same time up until that point... not really. How are they more connected to the elves or dwarves or mages than any other character?

[naledgeborn]

Completes best is subjective. The most relevant to the entirety of the plot and subplots is probably Elven Magi. There's Broken Circle and Arl of Redcliffe which are directly related to that origin. Nature of the Beast and The Landsmeet subplot Unrest in the Alienage is indirectly tied to EM because of race. That's 2 treaties, 1 major plot, and 1 sub-plot.

Call me unimaginative but my favorite is HNM Warrior followed by "evil" DNM Warrior.

[Avilia]

I think gender is irrelevant to most Origins, except CE.

Having said that, HN is most connected to the story as a whole imho. I've only run it a couple of times (finished it only once) but I remember being surprised by that. Probably because most of the NPCs you interact with are human, hence they connect with you better as a human.

I recall wondering if they assumed most people would play as HN or if HN was the core story with the others being added in later.. but that's pure speculation.

However, even though I think the HN flows the best - I prefer elves of any variety to humans and my canon run is a DC female.

Modifié par Avilia, 07 novembre 2010 - 09:01 .

[mousestalker]

Gender only matters in the city elf origin, imho. Men get to romance Morrigan. Women get to romance Alistair. Anyone can romance Zevran who has the best romance in the game, if you use ejoslin's fixes.

[Sarah1281]

And anyone can romance Leliana as well.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Since Morrigan seems to be an important character in the franchise, being a male who romanced her might offer a more complete perspective on the Morrigan / change storyline in the future (at least hopefully), as the OGB could be our child and we can follow Morrigan through the mirror.

However, this is more post-Origins and it might not even matter. Still, the Morrigan romance adds a new dimension to the DR. But I wouldn't say being a male offers a more complete playthrough, no. Gender differences might add something more to specific subplots, but that's mostly it.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 07 novembre 2010 - 09:36 .