Has anyone else noticed a lot people seemingly going through the 5 stages of grief in regard to DA2 and how much it differentiates from DAO and how similar it is to ME2? First I sort of noticed it myself but now I'm seeing it in a lot the prominent forumites here.
First news came out like "Press a button and something AWESOME HAPPENS!" and "Think like a gerneral, fight like a Spartan!" and people just attributed it to a goofy marketing department and wrote it off. Surely they wouldn't tamper with our beloved DAO in such a way.
Then the terrible marketing lines started to permiate our minds and the game was looking more and more like an action game and not a tactical RPG. Not to mention a few devs made mention of the top-down view being gone and replaced by a less encompassing view and people started flipping out. Like crazy.
Then tons of people started pumping devs for questions, trying to find a middle ground and acting as though they could change the game because they asked very politely(or not politely at all in some cases).
Then everyone started acting like we were the victims of some great cosmic injustice, like we were being punished for enjoying Origins too much. The other shoe had dropped.
Now a lot of people are starting to accept that DA2 is obviously pretty different from Origins and has a lot in common with ME2 and we either play it or don't.
It's really stange.
The 5 stages of DA2 grief
Débuté par
Guest_BrotherWarth_*
, nov. 07 2010 02:04
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Guest_BrotherWarth_*
Posté 07 novembre 2010 - 02:04
Guest_BrotherWarth_*
#2
Posté 08 novembre 2010 - 05:47
You know, I feel like I should set up a script that automatically posts this to threads with certain words in the title, but...
If you can't be civil to each other, don't post. Seriously. If all you're planning on doing is jumping down another poster's throat because they have an opinion you disagree with, just stay off the forums entirely.
I don't care if you love what we're doing or hate what we're doing, all I ask is that you treat each other with respect. If you can't manage that, then you aren't going to be welcome here.
If you can't be civil to each other, don't post. Seriously. If all you're planning on doing is jumping down another poster's throat because they have an opinion you disagree with, just stay off the forums entirely.
I don't care if you love what we're doing or hate what we're doing, all I ask is that you treat each other with respect. If you can't manage that, then you aren't going to be welcome here.
#3
Posté 08 novembre 2010 - 06:15
tmp7704 wrote...
That runs somewhat at odds with comments from BioWare's own folks, who do point out when things get criticized for their appearance and such that "the game isn't out yet we have X months before it ships to improve things". So while it'd be foolish to expect major changes at this point (not that they can't ever happen) still corrections, additions and fixes can --and have to, and will-- be done to game in its current state anyway. It's not yet complete nor fully polished after all.Maria Caliban wrote...
BioWare won't alter aspects of Dragon Age II at this point and they're not going to listen to our opinion of the game until it actually comes out.
Of course, it'd also be foolish to expect these corrections, additions and fixes to be affected to large degree by rabble on the forums, but it doesn't also mean external opinions can't have impact at all -- wasn't the speed of 2h animation tweaked in part as result of feedback they've gathered when the game was shown some time earlier?
To clarify this point a bit - we do read everything that people post, positive and negative. And while some points are so locked down that there's really nothing that'll change due to resources and time, some stuff -does- get adjusted because of fan reaction. We're not going to go in and start a massive overhaul of anything as a result of what we hear, but we do look to see if there's a way to please both groups without making some poor programmer work through Christmas.
The other thing is, we have a few people who spend a decent amount of time on the forums (occasionally, a little -too- much time, perhaps upsetting their significant others *cough*) and so we're pretty good at identifying what's a valid concern versus what's either a matter of opinion for a small percentage of our audience, or what's a result of not having enough information. And, of course, there are always future projects. Though opinions gain more weight when people have actually played the game, enough concern about something pre-release can have an effect on how we do things in whatever our next endeavour is.
Now, having said all this - we're a lot more likely to read someone's feedback when it's presented 'I don't like this change because of these reasons' than when it's presented 'Dragon Age 2? MORE LIKE GEARS OF AGE.. EFFECT. YEAH.' Civility and common decency will get you everywhere in regards to us reading and possibly responding to your concerns. Throwing out vitriol and bile and talking about how much we, our game and the MLB all suck will quickly get you ignored or, if you start attacking other posters who have contrary opinions, banned.
So keep expressing your concerns! We like to read them, particularly when you back up why you're concerned. However, when you start in on the 'YOU GUYS ARE JERKS AND I HATE YOU' you're probably going to be ignored. Also, bear in mind that I am but a simple Cinematic Designer





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