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[The Real Creflo]

So I beat DAO the first time with my elf mage and now I'm itching to play this game again and wondering what would be a good race/class combo to go with this time around?

The mage story and combat was phenominal and I don't see how it can be beat but I'm thinking that maybe a Dwarf Noble Warrior would be a good one to play.  Either that or a Human Rogue.  Which one do you think I should play next?  Any other combinations that would be fun and effective?

[mousestalker]

You really ought to play a Dwarf origin (either one) just because the stories are incredible. For that matter, give all the origins a try.

[Liliandra Nadiar]

Depends on how you played your mage. Arcane Warrior? Support focused? Walking missile solo? Admittedly, warrior and rogue will be a lot different no matter what.

So far, I've done a Casteless dual weapon warrior, Dalish Dual wielding rogue, City Elf archery rogue and a Human Caster Mage, currently have a Human Noble Two-Hander and Human Support Mage still working through with a possible Dwarf Noble Sword and Shield waiting after them.

Story-wise, the Dalish was the weakest, there was no real sense of connection to anything. It works if you want to be the stranger in a strange land type, even the Dalish clan you go too isn't 'yours' and treats you only slightly better then the others, but otherwise... *shrugs*

The City Elf and Casteless Dwarf had pretty strong connections to their respective 'origin cities' through altered NPCs/NPC Dialog.

Mage you know. Human Noble so far is a lot like the City Elf, though there are a few lines every now and then were you can 'spring' being a noble on some one, but it's the Landsmeet/End game where their story shines I understand.

As for class, I'm partial to rogues for their utility, but warriors can survive a lot thrown at them once they 'mature' (level 10+ with tier 5+ gear) into their class.

Neither will pump out the massive damage a combat mage can, nor be as 'survivable' as the Arcane Warrior, but they are more forgiving in builds with a wider variety of gear to chose from.

I'd recommend a Dwarf next. Just for the massive difference in play style from a mage.

[The Real Creflo]

I think I will try Dwarf Noble Warrior then. Now my question is should I go 2h, dual wield, or sword and board? I'm leaning towards 2h because I never got a chance to play one during my last play through (both my main and Wynne were aw/sh haste mages with varying spells, Allistar tanking, and Leliana as bow bard spec).

[termokanden]

I find 2h the most interesting myself.



You have to give it a bit of time before you get all the talents you need to be spamming. It also really helps to have Death Blow. But then you'll be a killing machine.

[The Real Creflo]

2h Noble Dwarf Warrior...I like it. What talent trees would you take if you were to make such a character? I'm guessing powerful until death blow on the warrior line (since you mentioned it) and probably pommel strike to critical strikes on the two handed line followed by sundering arms to destroyer? What would be the preferred specialization for this type of spec?

Modifié par The Real Creflo, 08 novembre 2010 - 03:34 .

[Liliandra Nadiar]

All of the two-handed tree is useful. Berserker fits the dwarven lore perfectly since, you know, they made it. But I don't recommend it as the initial specialization due to the stamina regen penalty until you get the passives. Templar on a dwarf is a bit of an odd story fit, but the skills are very useful. Champion is better if your going to have more then just you wading into melee. Reaver I've never actually played, spec'ed Oghren into it several times but never really payed attention to how it worked.

So, if you intended to be the only melee fighter Berserker/Templar or reaver. If there will be two or more melee fighters, Champion/Berserker or Templar.

[termokanden]

Mighty Blow is, in my opinion, better than Critical Strike. That's just a small issue though, because as a 2h warrior you want all of them so you can spam them instead of waiting for cooldowns.



As for specializations, I can't recommend Champion quite enough. It fits a 2h warrior perfectly. Rally is always nice to have, but the AoE knockdown is what makes it great. Combine with Two-Handed Sweep and Stunning Blows and you can control all enemies in a room.



The other one is tough, but in the end it doesn't really matter much. I like Berserker just for the passive buff. Berserking in itself is a bit pointless for 2h warriors. On the PC at least, it's a stam drain for very little actual gain damage-wise. Reaver isn't all that great. Templar is nice because of the gear it lets you wear but otherwise not that great (the AoE scales on willpower, but the other two you have scale on strength and are therefore way better).

[The Real Creflo]

Just finished the Dwarf Noble Origins story and it was awesome! Looks like this is going to be a fun second run...thanks for the replies!

[Elhanan]

The DN also offers a friend topside in Gorim. When you find him again, he will offer some of the best prices in the game when you sell items, and he carries the best maul in the game after you finish 3 main quests, I believe.

I recommend Champion and Templar for the buff, stunning, and AoE attacks. And with the right gear selections, the +10% Magic Resist bonus for a Dwarf can gain full immunity as a Templar.

[Ferretinabun]

Heh heh. I think my 2H Dwarf Noble was the most fun to play of my runthroughs.

Just remember Wynne's an awesome companion for such a build - let her cast Heroic Offense to help with your accuracy, Haste to speed up your annoyingly slow attack speed, and then just keep you alive and you'll bulldozer your way through the game like a juggernaught. Keep Wynne glued to your hip at all times.

Besides that, keep Indomitable on to keep you immune to any knockdowns and the Two-Handed Sweep is probably the top-tier talent you'll want to aim for first, as it's the only multi-opponent talent in the tree. Loadsafun!!

Enjoy.

[Liliandra Nadiar]

Blood Thirst from the Warden's Keep DLC is also a great help. 12 damage periodically, but upped attack and movement speed, damage and critical chance. Just keep an eye on your health and turn it off if things get to close.

[The Real Creflo]

I haven't got the Warden's Keep DLC yet but was thinking about adding it before I got too far into the game. I heard that there is also some pretty nice stam regen gear that arcane warrior could use to help out on the sustainables located in the warden's keep too, is this true?

[Ferretinabun]

If you're after stamina regen I don't think there's much in the Warden's Keep DLC, but one of the swords from Return to Ostagar is good, and there's also a nice ring from Stone Prisoner. Wade sells/makes you good stamina regen armour, while you can get a good (but expensive) belt at the Mage Tower Quartermater and amulet from Bodan (sp?). They all cost a bomb, so start saving...

[Ferretinabun]

Oh. Okay. I'll just go and make an omlette from the egg on my face, then...

[The Real Creflo]

lol

[Trenrade]

Champion/Berserker Dwarf noble warrior Two handed

[Mccoyn]

Dwarf Noble Warrior Archer seem interesting for me, I get the Champion and Reaver or Beserk Specialzations

[ussnorway]

The Human Shape-shifter mage was a lot of fun to play... pump strength (with 30 magic) and be the party tank.

[Mr_Steph]

Female, City Elf, Rogue.



Loooooooooooooooooooooooooooove it.

[Brozan]

Yes City Elve Female Rogue is awesome!



I think Dwarf Noble Templar could be interesting might be my first character that doesn't hate the chantry & Templars

[Taritu]

The dwarf origins have the best stories, imo. The city elf female makes you feel the most badass, positively terminatrix. The noble origin makes me the most sad/angry.



The difference between rogues and warriors isn't that huge, the question is weapon style, each of which is very different from other ones (I prefer dual wielding myself but a case can be made for all of them.)

[HippeusOmega]

I personally enjoyed my Dwarf Rogue Noble that wore Heavy Armor. Gained the protection of a Warrior and the nice backstabbing and stealth trees. Was one of the few playthroughs i used Shale and Oghren and didn't need to use Alistair or Lelina.