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Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

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What does everyone think about the most frequently nominated NPCs? Shiala, Parasini? I hear a lot of people express interest in romances with them.


I don't get the Shiala love at all. She has no developed personality. I can see the Parasini LI desire more, Maybe a DA:O or consort one time thing.

On another note, I'd like to have the chance to get with Nelyna (queue wiki searches for all but the most devoted fans).


Nelyna is dead, unfortunately. :(

I think the Shiala love is due to the entrance she makes. She comes across as very interesting and mysterious because of the situation in which we meet her.

I noticed that when she approached me in ME2 without the Feros lighting and her commando outfit she was much less exciting.

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Nightwriter wrote...

Nelyna is dead, unfortunately. :(.


Where do we find this out? I'm trusting to hope until all hope is lost.

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Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

Nelyna is dead, unfortunately. :(.


Where do we find this out? I'm trusting to hope until all hope is lost.



The Asari lady working for Barrier Frontiers on Illium is upset because her daughters died in the battle of the Citadel, one worked in the embassy the other a greeter for the consort.

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Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...
Where do we find this out? I'm trusting to hope until all hope is lost.


Erinya says that one of her daughters that was killed when the Geth attacked the Citadel was a greeter for the Consort, who would be Nelyna. I wonder if her other daughter was Saphyria the embassy receptionist?

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The only three I can really think of would be Grunt, Zaeed, and Mordin.

Grunt because he has the mind of a child and incompatible physiology (it would be like screwing a T-Rex).

Zaeed because he is just a bad-ass shoot 'em all up type. Trying to make him all lovely dovey just seems silly (he seems more like the kind you find in a trailer park saying, "Roll over B#!@^").

Mordin well because he's Mordin. He says he's not interested. He is more like the married to his work type so I don't see him making time for an affair.

(The above post contains humor that is in no way meant to offend either T-Rexs, white trash, trailer dwellers, or people married to their work. If something in the above post offends you please PM me and I'll be glad to edit it.)

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Exile Isan wrote...

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...
Where do we find this out? I'm trusting to hope until all hope is lost.


Erinya says that one of her daughters that was killed when the Geth attacked the Citadel was a greeter for the Consort, who would be Nelyna. I wonder if her other daughter was Saphyria the embassy receptionist?


I'm sure Nelyna is not the Consort's only greeter. Plus, she says she specializes in touch, which implies she's not always greeting. I'm in denial until a body is produced.

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Liara... hmm... back in the ME1 days i always thought she fell for Shep because she poked her mind and saw good stuff there. So to speak. I think i remember her saying something like that. So, it's a much more profound judgement of character than most couples in their early stages.

Also, she's 100 (or whatever... forgot), so among the Asari she's probably one of the best matches for a human LI.

Apart from that Asari apparently don't see humans as incredibly undevelopped, even though they should. Not sure how all this works. I mean living so long and still being in the shape of a 20 year old. Maybe they mature much much slower than humans.



Jack i haven't romanced so i'm not sure how the LI actually works. But the vulnurable part sounds like the same issue indeed.



Is it so hard to create a fitting match for the hero?!

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I would have liked to see other romances on the ship. Specifically, Miranda and Jacob. I'm not saying they should have been excluded as possible LIs, but I think it would have added a lot more life to these characters if male or female Shepards had a little competition.

If your Shepard has established a romance than I think it would be pretty cool if squad members started leaving their rooms and visiting others. I dont think it would make sense for everyone on the ship to be dating, but Garrus and Tali have known each other for a long time. I'd like to see some indication of a friendship between them.

Or have a poker game in the mess. Play against squad and crew members. Listen to some friendly and not so friendly banter and earn some credits at the same time.

Just wishful thinking for ME3 or maybe some DLC.

Modifié par anmiro, 08 novembre 2010 - 04:52 .


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I was very happy that both Garrus and Tali where LI in 2 and the writers found a way to make it seem like they naturally hid these feelings from you in 1 only to finally express them in 2 I hope for 3 they don't take that away from me but back to OP

People I'd rather not see as LI/romanceable:

I'm alittle worried that because everybody wants Samara as LI the writer will write a well she blew you off in 2 but changed her mind moment in 3 I like the fact Samara tried to see it your way then denied you it is a low priority for her so I do agree she should not be a LI in 3

I also hope they do not have a Tali / Garrus samesex switch over for 3 as some players would like these characters clearly don't go that way so no samesex romance relations for these two

Kate Bowman aka bring down the sky girl shes really been through enough

Prothean LI really no thankyou face it all living protheans at this point are zombies

Reaper...need I say more

Chakwas this would ruin her character she's charming and great I wish they did more friend lines for her but no LI chakwas for 3 shes the doctor come on!

Legion as stated already even though the writer could put him with Fshep doesn't mean the should

Same goes for Joker I like the guy as a friend no LI for Joker

Grunt and Zeed why? Zeeds moody Grunt will kill you.

Wrex I don’t think he's into humans like that he likes you as a friend I think that’s as far as he's going.

Citadel Doctor girl from 1 I don't think she was into you like that

A Roli is it spelled Roli? Anyway if they turn out to be birdmen please no LI thats just wrong if I have to be trapped with a Roli birdman's romance plot at least make it so not only can I opt out ( which would be a give in) but let them keep talking to you friendly no clam up moments type of thing

Hanar really yeah some people want Hanars not physically compatible.  Also there’s the , “ This one wants to love you long time!” Yeah I could live w/o that.

Rachni Queen seriously? Who the hell wants that? That's as bad as reaper!!!

Anderson, Udina, Citadel Council really? Not LI material and I thought I read somewhere Anderson has a girl already

No samesex relations with any ME2 characters aside from Jack who I was surprised didn't go that way no one else get a new 3 character for that.

Thane he's dieing so most likely not showing up in romanceable status for 3

Let's see what other pairings do we have......

Volus, Elcor, Your hamster, Urz, Kelly, Normandy wide npcs, TIM, whatever the original SB was a Yar?, Kolyat, Oriana, Feron, Another Spector, Ok I think that's it.

For OK romances

Shiala aka Feros girl she does express interest for those not involved or I guess those who are who want a one night stand w/ her a write in of a mini romance with her could work.

Parasini is the same way she kisses you you know! mini romance

Though a funny semi LI pairing would be if they allowed you to act on that breeding request and you die and get a mission over or just get severely hospitalized! That would be funny.

Modifié par Destroy Raiden , 08 novembre 2010 - 05:40 .


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That'd be an intriguing idea, actually, and a good way to get in-squad banter going. A few small, simple games you can play with whatever squadmates you have at the time, with occasional banter triggered between them depending on who's there - which would be limited by the number of people the game in question can hold, or maybe by who is 'capable' of playing what, to impose some artificial limitations that make it easier to write out.



As for romances, I think they're pretty good where they're at. I'd have pushed same-sex LIs for one or two of them (renegade scene with Jack, anyone?) but for the most part I think they're on the money.



I hadn't really thought about Garrus in the context of being his mentor before. Hell, maybe in ME3, if things don't go well he'll be the one to break it off and head out on his own? There's a thought; the relationship dynamics being capable of changing so if your Shep *is* a jerk, the LI can break it off with you before you dump them!



hoo boy, what a can of thresher maws THAT would open.

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Any krogan, Urz, Samara, Kasumi, Zaeed Anderson, Udina, Rachni queen, Shiala, Legion, Harbinger, YMIR Mechs and stationary objects should all not become potential LI's in ME3.



In ME2, I would have preferred if Garrus wasn't an LI. It just doesn't make sense. I mean, the romance was well done IMO in the game, but it still didn't make sense for attraction to occur.



I would like to see a Kelly romance more fully-fledge in the third game, since she was one of the more appealing characters personally (no scale itch jokes please), and I think a TiM romance would also be quite interesting. I'm a straight guy, but I do find him quite charming and not quite as horrible as everyone else seems to think.

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[quote]Louis_Cypher wrote...

they be romanceable in ME3, his probably makes the least sense.
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I hear this sentiment a lot, but it's misguided.  He's capable of running around the ship (albeit in a somewhat stilted manner), crawling through vents, and firing an assault rifle, without any apparent damage.  He's responsible for operating a ship under combat conditions, with the associated risk of sudden accelerations and jolts.  I don't think a little careful sex or cuddling is going to kill him.  In fact, even with current medicine, some patients with Vrolik Syndrome (refered to medically as Osteogenesis Imperfecta) are capable of sexual activity.
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I sort of wonder if he got a Cerberus upgrade. It would explain why he suddenly defers to TIM over Shepard.

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Must LIs be restricted to the people we can actually have sex with? Seems a little crude.

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No comments on my idea of a S&M relationship with the turian councilor or that reporter you punch? This place must be going downhill.

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The soulless homunculi because...well....all three of them die in my playthroughs.

Modifié par Prince of Kemet, 08 novembre 2010 - 06:49 .


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Members of egg-laying species, synthetic intelligences, non-humanoids (yeah yeah, Japan and all, but hanar aren't even vertebrates), and people you spend less than five minutes in the company of. That's about all I'll draw a line under and say "Just no" to.



As to ones that just kind of strike me as odd or a little uncomfortable?

Miranda's a little too Pygmalion for my tastes. I like how it actually goes, but in the back of my head I'm always thinking "two years spent rebuilding me, focused on me; is this human affection or artist's ego?".

Jacob is basically just life support for his abs. Nothing behind the eyes.

Samara already said "Yes, but I can't". Leave it alone.

With modern medical technology tIM could be a well-preserved eighty. More information required.

Joker....actually, just no on Joker. Ruins the character's role in the story unless handled expertly.

Jack's Paragon romance is only fine if we presume no sex0rz that time. Too soon.



Otherwise, as long as they're handled appropriately to the character I'd green-light anybody. I don't want 'romance' out of Zaeed; I want to lock the door behind Shepard and drop a line that makes "reach and flexibility" look like Sonnet 116.

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Nightwriter wrote...

What does everyone think about the most frequently nominated NPCs? Shiala, Parasini? I hear a lot of people express interest in romances with them.


Actually they express interest in Shepard.

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Of the present love interests, I'd say Garrus. Of the present non-love interests, I'd say Joker (as well as Zaeed, if you count him).

Modifié par FieryPhoenix7, 08 novembre 2010 - 07:35 .


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Nearly all the Mass Effect Male-Shep romances have disturbing undertones: Tali's unhealthily a xenophile fangirl, Jack's got serious dependency and connection issues, and Miranda has an entirely different set of issues, combined with the fact she put you back together from disgusting meat and tubes. And she's the more normal of them. I have a hard time not seeing those romances as a Renegade fascade to take advantage of their issues: with Miranda you get an inside line to Cerberus, with Tali you possibly get a handle on the Migrant Fleet, and Jack becomes your own super-powered biotic lab dog with benefits.



The femshep romances are largely more, well, sane. I might not like him as such, but Thane's romance is touching in its own right (but would be a major cop out if he lives/last minute cure). Jacob's may seem boring to everyone else, but it's probably the most stable, emotionally sound one you can get.



I don't really like Garrus's, since it starts as much as stress relief as anything else, and I just have personal dislike of mixing sex with friendship and trust.

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Moiaussi wrote...
I don't think a little careful sex or cuddling is going to kill him.  In fact, even with current medicine, some patients with Vrolik Syndrome (refered to medically as Osteogenesis Imperfecta) are capable of sexual activity.

I sort of wonder if he got a Cerberus upgrade. It would explain why he suddenly defers to TIM over Shepard.


I looked it up on Wikipedia, and holy crap, it actually exists.

http://en.wikipedia....Vrolik_Syndrome


On topic: Niftu Cal should not be a LI, biotic god or no.

Modifié par hong, 08 novembre 2010 - 11:17 .


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ReconTeam wrote...

No comments on my idea of a S&M relationship with the turian councilor or that reporter you punch? This place must be going downhill.


Not sure those comments being ignored is proof of it going downhill :P

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No!!! : any vorcha, hanar, elcor, volus, collector, varren, praetorian, husk, scion, etc.

No. : Joker (I'd better see continuing of relationship between him and EDI), Donnel Udina (kill him, slowly), Kasumi (don't mind if she'll date Jacob), Grunt (pedo-Shepard?), any ******-relationships with existing LIs (just imagine that's this forum will look like if, for example, Jacob will).

No, but too late: Tali and Garrus (I'm the only child in family, so they were my brother and sister), Liara in ME1 (I've just wanted to talk about your mother's death, Liara! Get better in ME2, though).

Yes: Gianna Parasini (not so tough as Ashley - just O'k for me), Zaeed (my renegade Infiltrator looks for moody badass)

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ScooterPie88 wrote...
Zaeed because he is just a bad-ass shoot 'em all up type. Trying to make him all lovely dovey just seems silly (he seems more like the kind you find in a trailer park saying, "Roll over B#!@^").

:lol:

I thought it would have been good if we could see some romances between the team/crew instead of ones that involve Shepard (Jack looks like Zaeeds kind of woman). I also like the 'bromance' idea mentioned in this thread.

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Dean_the_Young wrote...
Nearly all the Mass Effect Male-Shep romances have disturbing undertones

And half the relationships in 1 violate fraternization rules in the worst possible way.  Yes, the relationship with the terminally ill widower may be the most conventionally sane one available.

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The best thing to do about the romances is to not look that deep into them.



Because they get kind of weird if you do.