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[achwas]

Christmas Ape wrote...

Members of egg-laying species, synthetic intelligences, non-humanoids (yeah yeah, Japan and all, but hanar aren't even vertebrates), and people you spend less than five minutes in the company of. That's about all I'll draw a line under and say "Just no" to.

no more need be said...

Christmas Ape wrote...
Miranda's a little too Pygmalion for my tastes. I like how it actually goes, but in the back of my head I'm always thinking "two years spent rebuilding me, focused on me; is this human affection or artist's ego?".
Jacob is basically just life support for his abs. Nothing behind the eyes.

... except for these very charming takes on our favourite Cerberus employees

I might also vote for banning the Volus as a species from the status of LIs.... going down with a gasping mole who'd most likely estimate you net-worth in galactic credits half of the time and boasting about his high-performance requirements the other half is just too....bizarrely SM ?

[SimonTheFrog]

mineralica wrote...

... any ******-relationships with existing LIs (just imagine that's this forum will look like if, for example, Jacob will).

Please elaborate! Are you afraid some immature homophobes might be upset?

I know it's common among certain parts of society to look down on (male) gays but there's also a lot of support here in this forum. Don't underestimate the number of grown-ups here!

Also, as mentioned a lot already, "******-relationships with existing LIs" already exists. Liara might not see it this way, but from femShep's perspective it is exactly that! 

[Dean_the_Young]

Louis_Cypher wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...
Nearly all the Mass Effect Male-Shep romances have disturbing undertones

And half the relationships in 1 violate fraternization rules in the worst possible way.  Yes, the relationship with the terminally ill widower may be the most conventionally sane one available.

Fraternization is discouraged, but permitted within certain boundaries. It's more of the effect it has, not the morality of the act itself. It isn't equivalent to, say, saying the right words to an emotionally fragile and needy girl, wiggling your way into the pants of a grown woman by placating her insecurities, or indulging the hero-worship of a girl who's been besotted with you since she was considered a barely-legal adult.

Compared to that, slipping into the dress of a dead man's wife is relatively sane indeed. I'd consider Jacob saner still.

[Lord Nicholai]

SimonTheFrog wrote...

mineralica wrote...

... any ******-relationships with existing LIs (just imagine that's this forum will look like if, for example, Jacob will).

Please elaborate! Are you afraid some immature homophobes might be upset?

I know it's common among certain parts of society to look down on (male) gays but there's also a lot of support here in this forum. Don't underestimate the number of grown-ups here!

Also, as mentioned a lot already, "******-relationships with existing LIs" already exists. Liara might not see it this way, but from femShep's perspective it is exactly that! 

I agree with his statement, but probably for different reasons. It would seem a little out of character if Garrus or Jacob romanced a male Shepard, just as it would if Miranda started to flirt with the female Shepard. I think male-male romances were a missed opportunity and BW should not change a characters sexual orientation for the sake of pleasing us. Having Garrus and Tali as LIs was a bit too much to be honest and obviously put in to please fans only

[Louis_Cypher]

Dean_the_Young wrote...
Fraternization is discouraged, but permitted within certain boundaries. It's more of the effect it has, not the morality of the act itself.

Between a NCO (in the case of Ashley) and a commissioned officer, directly in the chain of command?  And, of course, Virmire provides a textbook example of WHY fraternization is discouraged, when you have to choose between saving your LI or another soldier.

[Kronner]

Shouldn't be?

Kelly - Shep is her commander
Miranda - Shep is her commander
Tali - quarian (glass covering face, chicken hands), barely an adult, insecure teen who has a crush on Shep - just ridiculous IMHO
Jack - psycho biatch, too unstable
Ashley - Shep is her commander

Garrus - femShep is his commander, I find this "romance" ridiculous and would never go for it
Thane - dying assassin dating femShep? L.O.L.
Jacob - femShep is his commander
Kaidan - femShep is his commander

Mordin, Legion, Samara, Grunt and Wrex are obvious, I hope.

The only ones that would make sense to me is Liara/Kasumi for Shep and Liara/Zaeed for femShep. But I am no fan of romances in games and rarely pursue any, so it does not matter to me. My cannon Shep is single.

Modifié par Kronner, 08 novembre 2010 - 05:38 .

[SimonTheFrog]

Louis_Cypher wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...
Fraternization is discouraged, but permitted within certain boundaries. It's more of the effect it has, not the morality of the act itself.

Between a NCO (in the case of Ashley) and a commissioned officer, directly in the chain of command?  And, of course, Virmire provides a textbook example of WHY fraternization is discouraged, when you have to choose between saving your LI or another soldier.

Indeed. When i dated Ash and killed off Kaidan pretty much as a reflex i kinda cursed BioWare for supporting this sort of leadership-style. It's very very wrong.

[Cra5y Pineapple]

Jack is a bit questionable for romance in my opinion considering her sanity.

If this is about characters that aren't LIs and never should be, I'd say Grunt should never be a LI; but we are not crossing out Wrex. I want to see his soft side.

Modifié par Cra5y Pineapple, 08 novembre 2010 - 05:41 .

[Dean_the_Young]

Louis_Cypher wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...
Fraternization is discouraged, but permitted within certain boundaries. It's more of the effect it has, not the morality of the act itself.

Between a NCO (in the case of Ashley) and a commissioned officer, directly in the chain of command?  And, of course, Virmire provides a textbook example of WHY fraternization is discouraged, when you have to choose between saving your LI or another soldier.

'Certain boundaries,' I did say.

I have yet to have a Shep save a love interest. Funny. Might have killed on because I was trying not to show favoritism.


All that said, fraternization isn't as creepy as the ME2 romance stuff.

[Xilizhra]

I don't think the Tali romance is that bad, though perhaps Mark Meer's emotionless drone voice makes it worse; I haven't been able to bear listening long enough to tell. But if she was to pursue my Femshep, I don't see anything hugely wrong with that.

[Kappa Neko]

No to new romances. Simple as that. I don't want to see Shep screwing everybody on the ship! That would be even more ridiculous than it is already.

That said, I might make an exception for Joker *g* Why does he get rejected by everyone in this thread?? It could be a great romance if done properly. But since BW already screwed up Garrus big time, yeah, better no Joker I guess.



Why Jack wasn't a romance option for both sexes is a mystery to me, too.

Making existing characters bisexual in ME3? NO!!! How does that make sense?! Would only work with Jack.

I support same-sex romances. Don't see why there shouldn't be any. Would only be fair to introduce them in ME3. But that conflicts with my no new romances attitude. Hmmm.

[NanQuan]

Wrex. Because that's messed up... But if he was available I'd pursue him... Darn my fan girlish love for that dinosaur!

[The_Numerator]

Crazy lot of projecting going on up in here. Very revealing, though.

[Moondoggie]

Any romance would be fine if it is well written apart from the obvious silly ones like Legion that wouldn't make sense. All i want from the writers is a bit of depth with romance and not just going through the motions to get them into bed. It shows an immature and childish outlook on relationships and that's scary considering it's written by grown men.

[CalJones]

I think the existing romances are fine. They all have their good points. Garrus is my favourite because he's badass, yet a real sweetie. However, I'm not convinced that sex with a turian wouldn't rip a woman to bits. They have enough spiky bits on their bodies, after all.

[stuboy52]

garrus should strickly be a bromance for males like having funny batter more of the time im mean hes been with you since the start so obvious they would be best friends since kaiden becomes an ass in second game anyway

[Eliantariel]

I don't really understand the purpose of this thread. I mean - even if there is a romance for a character available, it is not as you are going to be forced to go this path. If you want to stay friends, fine, but for those who hope for more it would be nice if a romance path exist.



That does not mean that everyone wants to be with Shepard, because he/she is irresistable. Everyone is playing their Shepards differently and the game only gives you some choice between different persons with which your Shepard spends most of the time. Because I can romance Jakob does not mean that I do it.



So why should it be wrong for someone to support a new romance? Of course it is Biowares decision and if you have a problem with this simply don't go to or write in a support thread and you are fine. If you don't wont any more romances than stick with your favourite romance - I cannot see why a new romance should bother someone because you decide for your Shepard if you like to stay single or with which person you like to start or continue a romance.



And for Joker: so you think because he has this disease he is not allowed to be loved or to be happy with someone? You know that there are really people in our world with this disease? Do you think they have to stay single too, because of their illness? And concerning Seth Green: I don't even knew of him before this game and there are people out there playing with other language versions and other Joker synchronisation. So - I can tell you it is not Seth Green why I for example, want a Joker romance and it is not Brandon Keeners voice that made me fell for Garrus. Just by the way.

[Inquisitor Recon]

SimonTheFrog wrote...

mineralica wrote...

... any ******-relationships with existing LIs (just imagine that's this forum will look like if, for example, Jacob will).

Please elaborate! Are you afraid some immature homophobes might be upset?

I know it's common among certain parts of society to look down on (male) gays but there's also a lot of support here in this forum. Don't underestimate the number of grown-ups here!

Also, as mentioned a lot already, "******-relationships with existing LIs" already exists. Liara might not see it this way, but from femShep's perspective it is exactly that! 

Really? The old your immature/racist/homophobic/bad/stupid if you don't support these demands argument?

But thanks you two for reminding me of another thing to put on my list of  "should not be LIs."

[Xilizhra]

Um, I don't see where that's coming from. I think it was more "complaining about gay relationships existing is homophobic," which to be fair, kinda is.

[PauseforEffect]

Oh lord, please not Grunt, that is wrong on so many levels.

No elcor, hanar, or volus. Ever.

First thought upon Shepard receiving a breeding request from a krogan was, "Would a human ever survive that?"

Grunt: "HA!"

[Sorrel]

A friend of mine's uncle has Joker's bone disease. He says he can screw just fine.



Characters who shouldn't be a LI: Grunt.

It'd be super-paedo-lizard-time. At least everyone else is an adult.



I'm for the Jokermance thing. He's not a guy who abides heavily by the rules and now that he's not part of the Alliance, breaking "regs" in regards to that doesn't really have any negative repercussions for him anymore. Cerberus isn't going to ground him.

[MarginalBeast]

Tali - quarian (glass covering face, chicken hands), barely an adult, insecure teen who has a crush on Shep - just ridiculous IMHO

Tali is 24. That's significantly more than "barely an adult".

[AdmiralCheez]

@Eliantariel: The purpose of this thread is to express personal opinion and prevent character assassination. And if that doesn't work, then it's for the lulz. Seriously, it's ultimately up to Bioware, but hey, if we can have "I want this character as an LI in ME3" threads, why CAN'T we have one that does the opposite?



@Sorrel: His disease isn't really an issue. I just think that he and Shep have a great thing going as is. Of course, maybe that's just how I see it, and if BW DOES add it, and it's well-written, then so be it.