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Is the complete destruction of the Human race such a bad thing?


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Am I the only one who was rooting for the collectors?

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applehug wrote...

Am I the only one who was rooting for the collectors?


I have a (what I would consider) healthy innate interest in self-preservation.

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Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

applehug wrote...

Am I the only one who was rooting for the collectors?


I have a (what I would consider) healthy innate interest in self-preservation.


See, I can see the point to this though. Eventually we'll run out of resources in the galaxy. Whether it takes a few hundred thousand years, or it only takes a few thousand years, eventually there'd be just no more room for life; it'd be a galactic-scale repeat of the drell's situation.

Reapers truly ARE the galaxy's salvation by destruction.

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applehug wrote...

Am I the only one who was rooting for the collectors?


Yes. The Collectors were a threat to humanity and needed to be eliminated. Besides, what were you rooting for? A bunch of bug-like creatures to come and smoothi-fy you?

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And what gives them the resources to have lived for so long? Why aren't theirs running out too? Oh, hang on, WE are their resources!
I am not seeing the human race dying out for a bunch of ancient lazy bas**rds who sleep for 50k years then wake up when all the work is done, and feast on the results!

So no, I am not supporting the reapers or collectors.

Modifié par Zan51, 09 novembre 2010 - 03:19 .


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Sounds like somebody got picked on in school. :P

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I could imagine a reaper saying something along these lines.



"I’d like to share a revelation that I’ve had, during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you aren’t actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with its surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply, and multiply until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague, and we... are the cure."

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If you are disastisfied with your life and species i suggest you leave both behind.

If they are so correct save them the trouble of killing you.

Do it for them.

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MuteSpeech wrote...

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

applehug wrote...

Am I the only one who was rooting for the collectors?


I have a (what I would consider) healthy innate interest in self-preservation.


See, I can see the point to this though. Eventually we'll run out of resources in the galaxy. Whether it takes a few hundred thousand years, or it only takes a few thousand years, eventually there'd be just no more room for life; it'd be a galactic-scale repeat of the drell's situation.

Reapers truly ARE the galaxy's salvation by destruction.


hmm interesting, saren mentions the reapers are the salvation...
however, what i realllllly am opposed to in this game is the fact that they allow human supremacy... that's really cocky... the paragon way of things brings balance, thats something i agree with... :P

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Computer_God91 wrote...

I could imagine a reaper saying something along these lines.

"I’d like to share a revelation that I’ve had, during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you aren’t actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with its surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply, and multiply until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague, and we... are the cure."


That quote always irked me, because anyone who actually looks at nature can tell you that the "mammals develop a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment" thing is complete bull. 

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Computer_God91 wrote...

I could imagine a reaper saying something along these lines.

"I’d like to share a revelation that I’ve had, during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you aren’t actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with its surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply, and multiply until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague, and we... are the cure."


The Matrix!

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What is it with people and hating their own species? Sure, I hate what some humans do, but that doesn't really justify becoming the Reaper Child's breakfast grits.

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R-Taco wrote...

Computer_God91 wrote...

I could imagine a reaper saying something along these lines.

"I’d like to share a revelation that I’ve had, during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you aren’t actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with its surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply, and multiply until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague, and we... are the cure."


That quote always irked me, because anyone who actually looks at nature can tell you that the "mammals develop a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment" thing is complete bull. 


Why is it complete bull? Please elaborate and provide support to your claim... otherwise it will be cast aside as just an opinion rather than a scientific argument with weight and merit...

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Computer_God91 wrote...

I could imagine a reaper saying something along these lines.

"I’d like to share a revelation that I’ve had, during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you aren’t actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with its surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply, and multiply until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague, and we... are the cure."


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AdmiralCheez wrote...

What is it with people and hating their own species? Sure, I hate what some humans do, but that doesn't really justify becoming the Reaper Child's breakfast grits.


My personal opinion is that I find people are usually on the extremes. Some hate humans and want them all gone. Some want humans to rule and enslave the rest. That's black and white. The world really is grey, and I like grey... some sort of balance... Humans to keep existing as equals in the galaxy to other species... That's my preferred standpoint... Not dead nor patriotic... :)

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ThunderSoul wrote...

My personal opinion is that I find people are usually on the extremes. Some hate humans and want them all gone. Some want humans to rule and enslave the rest. That's black and white. The world really is grey, and I like grey... some sort of balance... Humans to keep existing as equals in the galaxy to other species... That's my preferred standpoint... Not dead nor patriotic... :)


The desire for one's species/people group to advance in power is not unnatural. When all species are out for themselves and humans refuse to look out for their own interests, all of a sudden no one is looking out for human interests. Each species must take care of their own. That is how the world/universe has, does, and always will work.

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R-Taco wrote...

Computer_God91 wrote...

I could imagine a reaper saying something along these lines.

"I’d like to share a revelation that I’ve had, during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you aren’t actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with its surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply, and multiply until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague, and we... are the cure."


That quote always irked me, because anyone who actually looks at nature can tell you that the "mammals develop a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment" thing is complete bull.  


We are a good example of that aren't we?

ThunderSoul wrote...

The Matrix!


Yes, I loved that movie. I thought this would be the best place to put that quote.

AdmiralCheez wrote...

What is it with people and hating their own species? Sure, I hate what some humans do, but that doesn't really justify becoming the Reaper Child's breakfast grits.


I don't like humans as a species because throughout my life (very short life) I must say I've seen a lot of corruption, it is sad that we value money so much as a species. However, I would not say that we need to be turned into reaper slushies and drank. I'd just say we need to get our act together.

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Computer_God91 wrote...

I don't like humans as a species because throughout my life (very short life) I must say I've seen a lot of corruption, it is sad that we value money so much as a species. However, I would not say that we need to be turned into reaper slushies and drank. I'd just say we need to get our act together.


I hate to break it to you, but it's not going to happen. Humans have been around for millennia. Corruption and war are not going away anytime soon.

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In order to get our act together, world-wide population needs to return to the good ol' 1-2 billion ppl or less...

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Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

Computer_God91 wrote...

I don't like humans as a species because throughout my life (very short life) I must say I've seen a lot of corruption, it is sad that we value money so much as a species. However, I would not say that we need to be turned into reaper slushies and drank. I'd just say we need to get our act together.


I hate to break it to you, but it's not going to happen. Humans have been around for millennia. Corruption and war are not going away anytime soon.


Sad, unfortunate... but true...

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ThunderSoul wrote...

In order to get our act together, world-wide population needs to return to the good ol' 1-2 billion ppl or less...


It would not solve anything. As long as people are around, there will be strife. The instant one problem is "solved," two more problems will immediately take its place.

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Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

ThunderSoul wrote...

My personal opinion is that I find people are usually on the extremes. Some hate humans and want them all gone. Some want humans to rule and enslave the rest. That's black and white. The world really is grey, and I like grey... some sort of balance... Humans to keep existing as equals in the galaxy to other species... That's my preferred standpoint... Not dead nor patriotic... :)


The desire for one's species/people group to advance in power is not unnatural. When all species are out for themselves and humans refuse to look out for their own interests, all of a sudden no one is looking out for human interests. Each species must take care of their own. That is how the world/universe has, does, and always will work.


I don't know... we can say that about humans... what other species does that? Just humans as far as I know... and we haven't met other races to be able to judge them relative to our attributes...

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Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

ThunderSoul wrote...

In order to get our act together, world-wide population needs to return to the good ol' 1-2 billion ppl or less...


It would not solve anything. As long as people are around, there will be strife. The instant one problem is "solved," two more problems will immediately take its place.


That's well said... However, I think less people would reduce corruption/war/planet_warming/etc... It won't go away, just reduce...

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ThunderSoul wrote...

R-Taco wrote...

Computer_God91 wrote...

I could imagine a reaper saying something along these lines.

"I’d like to share a revelation that I’ve had, during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you aren’t actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with its surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply, and multiply until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague, and we... are the cure."


That quote always irked me, because anyone who actually looks at nature can tell you that the "mammals develop a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment" thing is complete bull. 


Why is it complete bull? Please elaborate and provide support to your claim... otherwise it will be cast aside as just an opinion rather than a scientific argument with weight and merit...


Before this gets too off-topic, check out what rabbits are doing to Australia's native wildlife right now. 

Anywhoo, even if you don't like humans, keep in mind that the other side (the Reapers) are for exterminating all intelligent life in the galaxy.  Not exactly a moral high ground.

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Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

Computer_God91 wrote...

I don't like humans as a species because throughout my life (very short life) I must say I've seen a lot of corruption, it is sad that we value money so much as a species. However, I would not say that we need to be turned into reaper slushies and drank. I'd just say we need to get our act together.


I hate to break it to you, but it's not going to happen. Humans have been around for millennia. Corruption and war are not going away anytime soon.


I know. It's a shame that it'll either take our destruction by our hands or a near extinction event, such as nuclear winter, to pull our heads out of our asses, but even then it's no guarantee. We can't fight our violent nature, we will always want to kill each other. Or can we? Maybe we need to meet another intelligent life form for us to realise we are all we got.

ThunderSoul wrote...

In order to get our act together, world-wide population needs to return to the good ol' 1-2 billion ppl or less...


What difference would that make? less people doesn't equal less conflict.