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[Computer_God91]

R-Taco wrote...

ThunderSoul wrote...

R-Taco wrote...

Computer_God91 wrote...

I could imagine a reaper saying something along these lines.

"I’d like to share a revelation that I’ve had, during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you aren’t actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with its surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply, and multiply until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague, and we... are the cure."

That quote always irked me, because anyone who actually looks at nature can tell you that the "mammals develop a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment" thing is complete bull.  

Why is it complete bull? Please elaborate and provide support to your claim... otherwise it will be cast aside as just an opinion rather than a scientific argument with weight and merit...

Before this gets too off-topic, check out what rabbits are doing to Australia's native wildlife right now.  

Anywhoo, even if you don't like humans, keep in mind that the other side (the Reapers) are for exterminating all intelligent life in the galaxy.  Not exactly a moral high ground.

You are right to a degree, they exterminate almost all life. Save for the ones they deem worthy of ascension. Though I'd have to say...

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...
I have a (what I would consider) healthy innate interest in self-preservation.

[Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams]

Computer_God91 wrote...

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

Computer_God91 wrote...

I don't like humans as a species because throughout my life (very short life) I must say I've seen a lot of corruption, it is sad that we value money so much as a species. However, I would not say that we need to be turned into reaper slushies and drank. I'd just say we need to get our act together.

I hate to break it to you, but it's not going to happen. Humans have been around for millennia. Corruption and war are not going away anytime soon.

I know. It's a shame that it'll either take our destruction by our hands or a near extinction event, such as nuclear winter, to pull our heads out of our asses, but even then it's no guarantee. We can't fight our violent nature, we will always want to kill each other. Or can we? Maybe we need to meet another intelligent life form for us to realise we are all we got.

ThunderSoul wrote...

In order to get our act together, world-wide population needs to return to the good ol' 1-2 billion ppl or less...

What difference would that make? less people doesn't equal less conflict.

To your first point, if we made contact with alien life and joined a galactic community, humanity may unite. Instead of America vs. Russia vs. China vs. [insert another country here], the conflict would be humans vs. [alien species 1] vs. [alien species 2] vs. [alien species 3].

To your second point, agreed. 

[Computer_God91]

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

To your first point, if we made contact with alien life and joined a galactic community, humanity may unite. Instead of America vs. Russia vs. China vs. [insert another country here], the conflict would be humans vs. [alien species 1] vs. [alien species 2] vs. [alien species 3].

To your second point, agreed. 

Basically what I'm saying though, we would be united as a species. thats a MAYBE though. Wouldn't it be better though rather then Humans vs. Humans.

[Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams]

Computer_God91 wrote...

Basically what I'm saying though, we would be united as a species. thats a MAYBE though. Wouldn't it be better though rather then Humans vs. Humans.

Yeah, I agree it's a big MAYBE. Many humans would die in that conflict as well. At least galactic war would be cooler than what we're used to...

[Computer_God91]

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

Computer_God91 wrote...

Basically what I'm saying though, we would be united as a species. thats a MAYBE though. Wouldn't it be better though rather then Humans vs. Humans.

Yeah, I agree it's a big MAYBE. Many humans would die in that conflict as well. At least galactic war would be cooler than what we're used to...

I don't think we'd stand a chance if it were say in 100 years from now, look at us. We spend all our time shooting each other and arguing who gets to sleep of the biggest money pile when we should be out in space trying to colonize a planet or something. I understand that'd be a huge chunk of money and we need to develop the Tech for that but that's what we should be focused on. Think about it we are a couple of our (or alien) WMDs away from complete annihilation. Hell if the gods of the cosmos feel like wiping a rock at us we'd be gone as well.

Plus is shedding a little paper not preferable to extinction?

Modifié par Computer_God91, 09 novembre 2010 - 04:05 .

[ThunderSoul]

Computer_God91 wrote...

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

Computer_God91 wrote...

I don't like humans as a species because throughout my life (very short life) I must say I've seen a lot of corruption, it is sad that we value money so much as a species. However, I would not say that we need to be turned into reaper slushies and drank. I'd just say we need to get our act together.

I hate to break it to you, but it's not going to happen. Humans have been around for millennia. Corruption and war are not going away anytime soon.

I know. It's a shame that it'll either take our destruction by our hands or a near extinction event, such as nuclear winter, to pull our heads out of our asses, but even then it's no guarantee. We can't fight our violent nature, we will always want to kill each other. Or can we? Maybe we need to meet another intelligent life form for us to realise we are all we got.

ThunderSoul wrote...

In order to get our act together, world-wide population needs to return to the good ol' 1-2 billion ppl or less...

What difference would that make? less people doesn't equal less conflict.

it will equal the beauty of earth will live longer... i like that...

[Computer_God91]

ThunderSoul wrote...
it will equal the beauty of earth will live longer... i like that...

Ok, in a few billion years when our sun burns this world gone it wont matter. Plus, we could and should be developing tech for better cleaner energy.

[Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams]

Computer_God91 wrote...

I don't think we'd stand a chance if it were say in 100 years from now, look at us. We spend all our time shooting each other and arguing who gets to sleep of the biggest money pile when we should be out in space trying to colonize a planet or something. I understand that'd be a huge chunk of money and we need to develop the Tech for that but that's what we should be focused on. Think about it we are a couple of our (or alien) WMDs away from complete annihilation. Hell if the gods of the cosmos feel like wiping a rock at us we'd be gone as well.

Plus is shedding a little paper not preferable to extinction?

I would love to see a colony put on mars. I just don't see that happening. I would be interested in going even with the realization that a colony sent to mars is probably not coming back.

[Computer_God91]

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

Computer_God91 wrote...

I don't think we'd stand a chance if it were say in 100 years from now, look at us. We spend all our time shooting each other and arguing who gets to sleep of the biggest money pile when we should be out in space trying to colonize a planet or something. I understand that'd be a huge chunk of money and we need to develop the Tech for that but that's what we should be focused on. Think about it we are a couple of our (or alien) WMDs away from complete annihilation. Hell if the gods of the cosmos feel like wiping a rock at us we'd be gone as well.

Plus is shedding a little paper not preferable to extinction?

I would love to see a colony put on mars. I just don't see that happening. I would be interested in going even with the realization that a colony sent to mars is probably not coming back.

Hell, I'd sign up to colonize Mars too fully aware I'd be buried on Mars. The fact is though, I'd be buried on freakin Mars! I would also LOVE to see a colony on mars, maybe, just maybe I'll be able to see that in my life time. If not I have no faith in the human race.

[ThunderSoul]

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

Computer_God91 wrote...

I don't think we'd stand a chance if it were say in 100 years from now, look at us. We spend all our time shooting each other and arguing who gets to sleep of the biggest money pile when we should be out in space trying to colonize a planet or something. I understand that'd be a huge chunk of money and we need to develop the Tech for that but that's what we should be focused on. Think about it we are a couple of our (or alien) WMDs away from complete annihilation. Hell if the gods of the cosmos feel like wiping a rock at us we'd be gone as well.

Plus is shedding a little paper not preferable to extinction?

I would love to see a colony put on mars. I just don't see that happening. I would be interested in going even with the realization that a colony sent to mars is probably not coming back.

I often dreamt of being the first human to set foot on Mars...

[Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams]

Computer_God91 wrote...

Hell, I'd sign up to colonize Mars too fully aware I'd be buried on Mars. The fact is though, I'd be buried on freakin Mars! I would also LOVE to see a colony on mars, maybe, just maybe I'll be able to see that in my life time. If not I have no faith in the human race.

In the current consumer-driven Western culture, I don't see it happening. There is simply no financial benefit to sending a bunch of people too mars, and it would cost a ton of money. It's a damn shame imo.

[Computer_God91]

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

Computer_God91 wrote...

Hell, I'd sign up to colonize Mars too fully aware I'd be buried on Mars. The fact is though, I'd be buried on freakin Mars! I would also LOVE to see a colony on mars, maybe, just maybe I'll be able to see that in my life time. If not I have no faith in the human race.

In the current consumer-driven Western culture, I don't see it happening. There is simply no financial benefit to sending a bunch of people too mars, and it would cost a ton of money. It's a damn shame imo.

That's the problem. Money. It shouldn't matter. it means everything if we are going to survive as a species, but noone is worried about that only personal wealth. The only time we will care is when a problem is slapping us in the face that we can not fix. Ex. A big ass rock coming at us.

Modifié par Computer_God91, 09 novembre 2010 - 04:22 .

[Zan51]

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

I would love to see a colony put on mars. I just don't see that happening. I would be interested in going even with the realization that a colony sent to mars is probably not coming back.

It's gonna happen, finally  www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1324192/Hundred-Year-Starship-Mars-mission-leave-astronauts-planet-forever.html

"The mission is to boldly go where no man has gone before – on a flight to Mars.
The snag is that you’d never come back.
The U.S. space agency Nasa is actively investigating the possibility of humans colonising other worlds such as the Red Planet in an ambitious project named the Hundred Years Starship. The settlers would be sent supplies from Earth, but would go on the understanding that it would be too costly to make the return trip.
NASA Ames Director Pete Worden revealed that one of NASA’s main research centres, Ames Research Centre, has received £1million funding to start work on the project."  

Modifié par Zan51, 09 novembre 2010 - 04:23 .

[ScooterPie88]

Is this serious?  I mean being evil in games is fun (subjugating the galaxy under Sith rule in KoTOR, doing evil things in a Star Wars game, or any other RPG).  Usually those ideas don't lead to the destruction of all human life.  Rooting for the bad guys is only fun when you'll still be alive to celebrate.

Again I have to ask if the OP is serious or just trolling.

As to sending someone to Mars.  Look at all the everyday technology that came out of the space race.  The economy was booming with all the different companies and agencies working on getting to the moon.  Setting a multinational goal to get to the moon again or even further would be a great thing.  Private companies are doing lots of work now.  You can even get a commercial space flight license (not necessarily to fly just to allow an individual or corparation to launch things into space).  As it stands though most governments are to interested in turning space research and exploration into stupid global warming research which is an utter waste of time and resources. 

Modifié par ScooterPie88, 09 novembre 2010 - 04:30 .

[Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams]

@ Zan51
That's the sort of thing I was referring to. They've been talking about it for years. I just don't see it getting past the "investigation" phase in our lifetimes.

@Scooter
I think it's a serious post, but it may be a troll. It's a thought. I just think it's a very well developed thought.

Modifié par Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams, 09 novembre 2010 - 04:27 .

[Computer_God91]

Zan51 wrote...

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

I would love to see a colony put on mars. I just don't see that happening. I would be interested in going even with the realization that a colony sent to mars is probably not coming back.

It's gonna happen, finally  www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1324192/Hundred-Year-Starship-Mars-mission-leave-astronauts-planet-forever.html

"The mission is to boldly go where no man has gone before – on a flight to Mars.
The snag is that you’d never come back.
The U.S. space agency Nasa is actively investigating the possibility of humans colonising other worlds such as the Red Planet in an ambitious project named the Hundred Years Starship. The settlers would be sent supplies from Earth, but would go on the understanding that it would be too costly to make the return trip.
NASA Ames Director Pete Worden revealed that one of NASA’s main research centres, Ames Research Centre, has received £1million funding to start work on the project."  

This is really cool, and I hope it gets out of the investigation stages.

[The Spamming Troll]

i have nothing to say here other then the matrix rules.

[Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams]

The Spamming Troll wrote...

i have nothing to say here other then the matrix rules.

Too bad they didn't make any sequels.

[Sajuro]

For the collectors, yes. But if I am forced to choose between galactic life and humanity in ME3, well humanity has had a good run

[Sajuro]

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

The Spamming Troll wrote...

i have nothing to say here other then the matrix rules.

Too bad they didn't make any sequels.

But they.... I see what you did there

[TuringPoint]

The Reapers may be right. After all, they DO want to give us perfection.

[The Spamming Troll]

Sajuro wrote...

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

The Spamming Troll wrote...

i have nothing to say here other then the matrix rules.

Too bad they didn't make any sequels.

But they.... I see what you did there

the next two matrixs werent that bad. you only think they were bad becasue its imposible to have your mind blown twice, let alone a third time. ......maybe thats why im not too impressed with ME2.

if harbinger tried to assume control of shepard, id love shepard to say "my name is SHEPARD" to harbinger and then give him a matrix punch to the face.

Modifié par The Spamming Troll, 09 novembre 2010 - 06:22 .

[Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams]

The Spamming Troll wrote...

the next two matrixs werent that bad. you only think they were bad becasue its imposible to have your mind blown twice, let alone a third time. ......maybe thats why im not too impressed with ME2.

if harbinger tried to assume control of shepard, id love shepard to say "my name is SHEPARD" to harbinger and then give him a matrix punch to the face.

I'm sorry the Matrix sequels were worse than pretty bad. Also, I would assume Shepard would break his hand if he tried punching a reaper.

[AdmiralCheez]

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

*SNIP!* Also, I would assume Shepard would break his hand if he tried punching a reaper.

Doesn't stop him from trying.  He is Commander Shepard, after all.