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What happens in the late-game if you let Soris get taken to jail?? (City Elf Male) SPOILERS!!!


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The reason I am asking this question is because I had to start by city elf over after being late into the game, because like an idiot, I accepted Vaughn's bribe, and therefore, missed out on getting FANG in the late-game.

Could someone tell me what happens in the late part of the game around the time you get fang, what happens if you allowed Soris to get taken to jail in the beginning?

I just want to know if it has any major effects on the game, such as negative consequences later.

I know this is a big spoiler for me, but that is ok. I don't want to miss out on any more great items.

Does it only affect dialogue? Or more?

Thanks so much in advance.

Modifié par Bleakwail, 09 novembre 2010 - 08:29 .


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You won't miss any items, great or otherwise.



That was not very heroic though, letting Vaughan live then ratting out Soris. You will hear about doing the latter on your revised play through, and rightly so.

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If you take the Bribe, you get disowned.

I think Soris is also mifed at you later.



Shianni gives you another chance though, I think.



In both my City Elf runs Vaughan ended up a funny looking stain all over the floor, and so did his friends.

Hearing Shianni say:

"They'll write legends about you someday. When the world was at its darkest, there you came, fire in your eyes like something out a storybook." Is totally an awesome moment in the Origin.



I am really incapable of taking the bribe before Vaughan gets his spiel out I am already after his blood.

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yea I try to go through every dialogue option because I know there is a purge later and my PC would try to avoid it. Then when he says 'he'll be keeping the girls' that's the thing that makes my PC see red. I could probably walk away if I could get Shianni and the others out safely. If you play a CEM and choose the right dialogues you find out Vaughan has done this before and the girls didn't always survive the treatment.
IMO for sheer drama, this Origin wins hands down as my favorite. The only one I like better is the Cousland Origin because that family is just so awesome!

Modifié par sylvanaerie, 09 novembre 2010 - 03:42 .


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I can be a calm fellow at times.

This was not one of those times.



This is what Vaughan probably saw when the fight started:

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ROFL HULK SMASH!!!

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sylvanaerie wrote...

ROFL HULK SMASH!!!

I have an overprotective trend to my family I think.

I had this horrible sinking feeling when Vaughan started talking.
I imagined one of my little sisters there, or my younger cousins.
Something went off, I saw red and Vaughan saw the violence inherent in the system.

Nothing he could have said would have saved him at that moment.

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Oh I love that line by Shainni made me feel all heroic

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I allowed vaughn to get his entire sales pitch out, and at the very end, I selected the option, "I'm going to enjoy killing you." The thing that made me lose all respect for soris was, after I selected the dialogue option, "you can't buy me", vaughn says "and what about your friend?" Soris says, "I don't know cousin its allot of money!"



So soris actually had it in his head at one point that maybe he should take the money,.



Anyway I said, "it was soris and me." To the garrison. I didn't stay silent.



So soris gets taken. What happens in the late game because of letting soris go to jail??

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mousestalker wrote...

You won't miss any items, great or otherwise.

That was not very heroic though, letting Vaughan live then ratting out Soris. You will hear about doing the latter on your revised play through, and rightly so.


I know it was not heroic at all. It was actually pretty stupid and lame.

But it was my very VERY first playthrough a long time ago. I am just now getting back around to going through with a City Elf.

So, when you said I wouldn't miss out on any items, good, or otherwise, are you saying this from experience?

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If you're wondering, Soris is still in jail. He's the one who tells your LI, if in the party, about your wedding. People at the Alienage hate you, though Shianni will give you another chance.

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The wiki is your friend in this matter.



No, I have never ratted out Soris.

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I already looked on the wiki for this information before I ever made this topic, and couldn't find it. Could you give me the link?



Also I didn't accept vaughns bribe this playthrough. I killed him. But I told the garrison "it was soris and me"



They took soris.



I just want to know exactly what happens in the late game as a result if someone would just tell me.

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Those who have responded said they don't know because they didn't say Soris did anything. (I myself always say "I did it") and even if you do that, Soris still ends up imprisoned and the Alienage purged by Howe. Is that what you're asking?

I am presuming if you didn't take the bribe, your family is still on speaking terms with you. (In which case you should get the dagger) but really I'd recommend just playing if you can't find it on wiki. There are so many permutations it's hard to say. But as I say I have never shared blame for the slaughter with Soris, I always took the blame myself.

Even if you don't get Fang its not a game breaker.

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I listed the link above. Click on the word 'wiki'. When you go to that page, click on the spoilerific red patch in the middle of the page. Read what it says about Cyrion giving the CE Warden Fang carefully.

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But I am a DW rogue, and fang is the best dagger in origins, stat wise.



If the only thing that happens is soris saying resentful things to me in the late game I can handle that. But if this ends up screwing up the storyline in a huge way, or causes me to miss out on any special items of events, I just want to know before moving on past ostagar.

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mousestalker wrote...

I listed the link above. Click on the word 'wiki'. When you go to that page, click on the spoilerific red patch in the middle of the page. Read what it says about Cyrion giving the CE Warden Fang carefully.

   



mouse thank you. sorry i didnt see it above. i will check it out. 

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I remember talking about this once:

Bribe Not taken: Vaughaun is dead, Shianni saved.

Bribe Taken : Vaughaun alive, Shianni raped, you get some gold (bastard)



If the bribe is not taken, People treate you much nicer, you get Fang, and some nice dialouge.

If the bribe is TAKEN, You dont get the dagger, you get disowned, though Shianni gives you another chance. (bastard)



When confronted by the guards you can:

Implicate yourself

Implicated you and Soris

Stay Quiet (Neira rats you out)



Yor are then recruited by Duncan.



When you return if you:

Take the Blood ritual or sell the elves into slavery: Shianni hates you no dagger.

Dont take the blood ritual or sell the elves : You get the dagger and some nice reunion.



For my two city elves the bribe is not taken, and Vaughan/Caladrius ALWAYS die.

Its nice to be able to get people who think their station can protect them.

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I was literally foaming at the mouth when I got to Vaughn Cursing and screeching profanities at the xbox. It was THE MOST SATISFYING origin to play. I cut his head off his neck. It was AWESOME!!!

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We are they

We are them

We are the elves in clown clothes....



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Got something on your chin, let me help you with that.



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There! Much better!



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This made me even more angry, and more hurt than almost any moment in Dragon age.



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Are you my father?








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Giggles I really appreciate the information. But I want to know what happens if you let soris get taken to jail in the late game. Like, is soris angry with you later? Are other people angry with you later in the late game after you return to the alienage? I'm just wanting to know in regards to soris being taken by the garrison by your own doing.

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One sec I will call in a favor with someone who has the toolset.

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Bleakwail wrote...

Giggles I really appreciate the information. But I want to know what happens if you let soris get taken to jail in the late game. Like, is soris angry with you later? Are other people angry with you later in the late game after you return to the alienage? I'm just wanting to know in regards to soris being taken by the garrison by your own doing.

Hmm is there any way to get a happy reunion with Soris?  IIRC, even taking all the "good" choices, he sounds resentful/jealous of you when you come back.

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I am really jealous of you PC users being able to make screenshots. I'm on the 360 and I can't do that. Also, can someone tell me how to put pictures into your signature like axekix above?



I know how to do it on the gamespot forums with using html and photobucket, but not on here.