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[Snoteye]

imported_beer wrote...

Why does it have to be tangible?

Because otherwise you can't upload it to Dragonbook.

Personally, I wish developers would focus on other things, but that's because I'm a completionist and have to finish as much as possible and romances (or rather, sex) mean nothing to me. Not because I am in any way offended by it.

I still think PS:T handled romances better than any game before or since. BGII is a close second, but only because that game is so long. Anything more than that and it just starts to get awkward. It's also really annoying to be in a PG-13 area and suddenly trigger a decidedly non-PG-13 cutscene.

[Critical Miss]

Who cares about sexing the romantics in this game, even for bonuses. I'm hoping for massive amounts of XP when I kill them. Yes, they annoy me that much.

Modifié par Critical Miss, 26 octobre 2009 - 12:30 .

[Critical Miss]

sheesh double post   second one today

Modifié par Critical Miss, 26 octobre 2009 - 12:29 .

[Anacronian Stryx]

Achievements are the opium of the gaming industry.

[Maria Caliban]

Snoteye wrote...

imported_beer wrote...

Why does it have to be tangible?

Because otherwise you can't upload it to Dragonbook.

As imported_beer said, you get an achievement for sexy-time, and you can upload achievements to the Bioware Social Site.

[Gaviteros]

I do want to say that I was extremely disappointed with the way the Romance was handled in Mass Effect, and before that: Jade Empire. It was handled as Sex being the final point in a relationship.

Oh let us flirt for a couple of missions / hours then: Wham Bam Thankya Ma'am, we are done: No more real dialog just the end of the game. Unfortunately I feel that Dragon Age is likely to follow the same path. You have sex, and then there is no point to continue developing the relationship.

I dunno, but when I play a character I don't usually play them as if they are likely to have flings with the applicable hot character that has been programmed to satisfy their needs in a magical world where when you are not wearing a bra but take your shirt off you suddenly have one.

Admittedly that last comment was directed towards how funny I find the advertising and is actually not an issue with me.

Modifié par Gaviteros, 26 octobre 2009 - 02:22 .

[Snoteye]

Maria Caliban wrote...

As imported_beer said, you get an achievement for sexy-time, and you can upload achievements to the Bioware Social Site.

Okay, that's kind of silly.

[CraigMooGa]

getting talent points for sex would be silly from an RP point of view really...

I just got laid, suddenly i'm a better fighter.

[Gaviteros]

CraigMooGa wrote...

getting talent points for sex would be silly from an RP point of view really...

I just got laid, suddenly i'm a better fighter.

God of War anyone?

[Maria Caliban]

Snoteye wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

As imported_beer said, you get an achievement for sexy-time, and you can upload achievements to the Bioware Social Site.

Okay, that's kind of silly.

What use is a social site if I can't tell my gamer friends that I've had sexytime with Morrigan?

[Critical Miss]

Maria Caliban wrote...

As imported_beer said, you get an achievement for sexy-time, and you can upload achievements to the Bioware Social Site.  

Do we get *the details* as well when achievements are uploaded? We could all hang out in a virtual bar and brag about our conquests. Sorry, but I'm finding this concept very funny.

[Gaviteros]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Snoteye wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

As imported_beer said, you get an achievement for sexy-time, and you can upload achievements to the Bioware Social Site.

Okay, that's kind of silly.

What use is a social site if I can't tell my gamer friends that I've had sexytime with Morrigan?

*Raises Hand* Um Um um... none?
Oh beeteadubs I had Sexytime with Morrigan and Sten at the same time. I know, I know. I'm a beast. Rack me up some achievement points Windows Live.

Modifié par Gaviteros, 26 octobre 2009 - 02:43 .

[Maria Caliban]

Critical Miss wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

As imported_beer said, you get an achievement for sexy-time, and you can upload achievements to the Bioware Social Site.  

Do we get *the details* as well when achievements are uploaded? We could all hang out in a virtual bar and brag about our conquests. Sorry, but I'm finding this concept very funny.

What details? It's a cutscene.

Gaviteros wrote...
*Raises Hand* Um Um um... none?
Oh beeteadubs I had Sexytime with Morrigan and Sten at the same time. I know, I know. I'm a beast. Rack me up some achievement points Windows Live.

Dragon Age doesn't support Games For Windows LIVE, just so you know.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 26 octobre 2009 - 02:44 .

[Nighteye2]

CraigMooGa wrote...

getting talent points for sex would be silly from an RP point of view really...

I just got laid, suddenly i'm a better fighter.

To be fair, though, it could have an influence on pursuasion. Being an experienced guy may make it easier to seduce and/or pursuade the women you meet in the game.

Even so, it'd still be a bit far-fetched, too much to put it in any game.

[Bundin]

Gaviteros wrote...

I do want to say that I was extremely disappointed with the way the Romance was handled in Mass Effect, and before that: Jade Empire. It was handled as Sex being the final point in a relationship.

Oh let us flirt for a couple of missions / hours then: Wham Bam Thankya Ma'am, we are done: No more real dialog just the end of the game. Unfortunately I feel that Dragon Age is likely to follow the same path. You have sex, and then there is no point to continue developing the relationship.

*snip*.

This. I'd not want completely mushy "scare the rest of the party away with sugarcoated sweetness" until end of game, but some acknowledgement every now and then if the sex was the result of a romance would be more natural I guess. After all, it's implied you're a couple afterwards. Or at least that was the case in BG2 and JE.
I'd also be positively surprised if one night stands (including or not including the PC) would be an option as well though, to broaden the options for the RPers.

[Gaviteros]

Maria Caliban wrote...
Dragon Age doesn't support Games For Windows LIVE, just so you know.

Welll damn. Not gonna have sex now. I need my achievement points. Only reason I would anyway.







Sometimes, I make myself chuckle. Is that wrong?

[thegoldfinch]

Gaviteros wrote...

I do want to say that I was extremely disappointed with the way the Romance was handled in Mass Effect, and before that: Jade Empire. It was handled as Sex being the final point in a relationship.

Oh let us flirt for a couple of missions / hours then: Wham Bam Thankya Ma'am, we are done: No more real dialog just the end of the game. Unfortunately I feel that Dragon Age is likely to follow the same path. You have sex, and then there is no point to continue developing the relationship.

I agree 110%; there should still be a lot to talk about after the fact, all the way to the end of the main quest. I had the same concerns that the romances would be a total repeat of Mass Effect but then I looked at David Gaiders previous work on IMDB, Knights of the Old Republic, and say what you will but I LOVED the romance subplots in that game (and everything else as well, it's probably my favorite game). I thought both the male and female stories were brilliant and memorable.

I don't know what else he's written for, if anything, but if it's anything like KotOR I will be very very happy.

[Rcloud]

This thread has grown leads and bounds since I went to bed last night. Seeing how no one has played the game yet, I'll have to wait and see how much the influence system inpacts the combat and I can agree how it can be a reward for the story itself. I just hope it'll have a persistent effect through the game instead of being just a simple cut-scene.



Someone mentioned that there was a video of the influence system and the only thing that I remember is that IGN briefly showed just how party members are impacted by the decisions of the PC and not how it influences combat. I guess I'll just have to wait and see for myself seeing how if they did show that footage it could be a potential spoiler.



As far as the "real life" situations are concerned, it's hard to say specifically that sex is the culmination of the relationship though i have to agree that it all depends on the individual's motive (from one night stand to a loving encounter with your partner). .

[Robin de Tolens]

Mordaedil wrote...Also, roleplaying need not be interactive activity. Sometimes you do it on your own and it can be applied in situations where you're not entertaining anyone else. <_< Just because you don't make a habit of doing it...

I totally agree with that. A personnal exemple is when I played Ultima Online and just made my character wash when he woke up, and I did that alone in my tower.

As for the romances in game, i find them rewarding by their very existence. It's like an achievement ; I made the NPC love my character, yay! That is one of the reason why I'll most probably try to romance Leliana with my female Dwarf, for the challenge ^^ (I read in an article on Worldpress that homosexuality will be recognized as such).

[SheffSteel]

Disclaimer: these are more "mod-related" thoughts than anything specific to the game as it is now...

From a game design point of view, I'd like to see some of the romanceable characters constrained such that your relationship would only intensify past a certain point if you did sleep with them. If you reject their advances they're likely to be a bit hurt, even if they still like you, so you might not get as much of a bonus as you would if you went "all the way".

Another thought is that after a certain point, I think being too intimate with an NPC could prove counterproductive - your partner could be distracted in combat if they think you're in immediate danger, and might shout warnings or even disobey orders/tactics to protect you.

Modifié par SheffSteel, 26 octobre 2009 - 07:50 .

[Varenus Luckmann]

Nighteye2 wrote...
Yes, it's even possible to have a platonic
romance with your followers, if you so desire. It doesn't end the
romance if you politely refuse to have sex with them. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/policeman.png[/smilie]

How about if I plunga knife into their harlot hearts for suggesting that I'd betray my people and their future? Will I be able to continue my romance anyway?
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Anacronian Stryx wrote...
Achievements are the opium of the gaming industry.

I like how you think.

[Tsuga C]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Neverwinter Nights 2 is not a BioWare game.

No, I do not want a talent point or mechanical bonus for sleeping with a follower. There's already the influence system, which improves the follower the more they like you.

The *point* of sex with followers is allowing your PC to express physical and emotional intimacy with someone they care for. It’s a role-playing game, and I like that it supports healthy human sexuality.

QFT.  Maria scores again.  If I had to hazard a guess, I’d say the OP was relatively new to the concept of roleplaying being more than rollplaying.

[balu1982]

If a game-feature only made sense because it alters/enhances your character most of the conversations, cutscenes and codex-entries would be obsolete.

I think it will be one of the main feats of DA:O to get the player involved not only by tossing items and experience-points at him but through story telling and emotional involvement.
Yes, i am talking about the player, not his ingame-avatar.

EDIT: does anyone know, why the portrait of my char isn't loaded?

Modifié par balu1982, 26 octobre 2009 - 09:52 .