Firky wrote...
Has this been asked? (Apologies if it has.)
What about the "human" offpring from human and elf - then has a child with an elf? So, the child has 3 out of 4 elven grandparents but is still human?
Nighteye2 wrote...
Did you see the last page of the thread I linked? I asked that very same question back then, and got an answer.
The great-grand-child would still be fully human, albeit with perhaps a slightly higher chance of some oddities occurring.
It won't be for lack of trying!leonia42 wrote...
Ah too bad Alistair and my Dalish Warden are both.. well.. Wardens. No way to test that theory out
Aermas wrote...
The thread grew pretty fast while I was away,
My point in being that elves produce humans is that they can be like axolotls turning in to salamanders when exposed to "salamander goo". We've done this in experiments & even made a song about it. The zygote could very well be elven but when another zygote comes to bond with it, it changes it's genetic structure to that of the new zygote. All it needs is a genetic sample on which to modify itself on & that is supplied by the human's zygote.
Tiax Rules All wrote...
there is pretty much like 5 people in here anyways, 2 against 3 is hardly a consesusUpsettingshorts wrote...
I don't see the "caught between two worlds" idea as terribly exciting in the first place, so of course my setups to establish it are going to be half-assed.
Edit: But then if I were in your and Revan's shoes I'd be taking the lack of enthusiasm from your fellow posters as a sign compromise is probably a decent idea, and try to come up with stuff myself. But that's me
Little harsh on the OP, aren't you? No doubt it is a matter of preference, if you're not interested in the elves and how they mesh with the story then the idea is just not going to appeal. I for one am interested in all things elven in the DA universe, including how they interact with humans, and since my favorite pt's in Origins were elves who romanced Alistair, the idea of elf-blooded humans is certainly of interest to me. For that matter how the dwarves interact (*subtle prompt for dwarf LI*).AlanC9 wrote...
True, but since you've got to sell Gaider on the idea, you'll need to do a hell of a lot better with him than you've been doing with us.
Tiax Rules All wrote...
Upsettingshorts wrote...
Schuback wrote...
Why won't we see female qunaris in DA2? I was actually hoping to see one.....
Budgetary (time and resources) reasons. Same reason we don't have capes or horses, etc.
Or visually identifyable Half-Breeds....
Ya, little harsh bro, don't exactly know what my thread makes you mad at me but I dont try to convince trolls of anything. Its pointless.AlanC9 wrote...
True, but since you've got to sell Gaider on the idea, you'll need to do a hell of a lot better with him than you've been doing with us.
AlanC9 wrote...
Tiax Rules All wrote...
there is pretty much like 5 people in here anyways, 2 against 3 is hardly a consesus
True, but since you've got to sell Gaider on the idea, you'll need to do a hell of a lot better with him than you've been doing with us.
Eveangaline wrote...
Exactly how human are human/elf children? I mean, sure on the outside they look human, but as far as internal biology, maybe it's more elvin? Maybe they have elvin blood types, or elvin lack-of-appendix or something.
Maybe if something happened that gave elves back their long lives, half elves would be effected as well?
ladydesire wrote...
Eveangaline wrote...
Exactly how human are human/elf children? I mean, sure on the outside they look human, but as far as internal biology, maybe it's more elvin? Maybe they have elvin blood types, or elvin lack-of-appendix or something.
Maybe if something happened that gave elves back their long lives, half elves would be effected as well?
In every story that I know of where there are half-elves, the main indication they are different is that they live longer than normal humans, but are not immortal. They may look like either humans or elves, but the lifespan is what sets them apart.
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Addai67 wrote...
Little harsh on the OP, aren't you? No doubt it is a matter of preference, if you're not interested in the elves and how they mesh with the story then the idea is just not going to appeal.
Modifié par AlanC9, 10 novembre 2010 - 11:29 .
Revan312 wrote...
AlanC9 wrote...
Tiax Rules All wrote...
there is pretty much like 5 people in here anyways, 2 against 3 is hardly a consesus
True, but since you've got to sell Gaider on the idea, you'll need to do a hell of a lot better with him than you've been doing with us.
Ahh, the arrogance of AlanC9, a sight to behold it is..
Modifié par AlanC9, 10 novembre 2010 - 11:28 .
ladydesire wrote...
D&D's visually identifiable half-breeds are the exception, rather than the rule. In both The Lord of the Rings and the Deed of Paksenarion (a trilogy inspired by LotR), there are major characters that are half-elven, but you would not know it to look at them, unless you knew their family history. I'm sure there are other stories where this is the case as well.
AlanC9 wrote...
Revan312 wrote...
AlanC9 wrote...
Tiax Rules All wrote...
there is pretty much like 5 people in here anyways, 2 against 3 is hardly a consesus
True, but since you've got to sell Gaider on the idea, you'll need to do a hell of a lot better with him than you've been doing with us.
Ahh, the arrogance of AlanC9, a sight to behold it is..
It's an occupational hazard of being right all the time, I'm afraid.
Even if it was about technical limitations, that doesn't matter anymore. You'd still have to sell the retcon even if they went away,
Gaider's statements on "elf blooded" seem to indicate that there is something about those individuals that is different. So stats-wise, there could be some differences- more dexterity or magic or whatnot. Since we haven't had an elf-blooded companion other than (potentially) Alistair, I don't see how that's a retcon. It seems established lore that they appear human, however.AlanC9 wrote...
Addai67 wrote...
Little harsh on the OP, aren't you? No doubt it is a matter of preference, if you're not interested in the elves and how they mesh with the story then the idea is just not going to appeal.
This is backwards. The idea doesn't appeal to me precisely because I am interested in the elves and how they mesh with the story. A half-elven child is human. That's how elves work in Thedas.
Unless you're talking about the compromise proposal for a half-elven character that is nevertheless human in terms of appearance and stats. I've got nothing in particular against that.
Aermas wrote...
AlanC9 wrote...
Revan312 wrote...
AlanC9 wrote...
Tiax Rules All wrote...
there is pretty much like 5 people in here anyways, 2 against 3 is hardly a consesus
True, but since you've got to sell Gaider on the idea, you'll need to do a hell of a lot better with him than you've been doing with us.
Ahh, the arrogance of AlanC9, a sight to behold it is..
It's an occupational hazard of being right all the time, I'm afraid.
Even if it was about technical limitations, that doesn't matter anymore. You'd still have to sell the retcon even if they went away,
To have a logical argument you can't use absolutes, so this statement is wrong, making you wrong, & therefore making you seem arrogant.
leonia42 wrote...
Aermas wrote...
AlanC9 wrote...
Revan312 wrote...
AlanC9 wrote...
Tiax Rules All wrote...
there is pretty much like 5 people in here anyways, 2 against 3 is hardly a consesus
True, but since you've got to sell Gaider on the idea, you'll need to do a hell of a lot better with him than you've been doing with us.
Ahh, the arrogance of AlanC9, a sight to behold it is..
It's an occupational hazard of being right all the time, I'm afraid.
Even if it was about technical limitations, that doesn't matter anymore. You'd still have to sell the retcon even if they went away,
To have a logical argument you can't use absolutes, so this statement is wrong, making you wrong, & therefore making you seem arrogant.
Your concept of arrogance intrigues me. AlanC's posts can't be refuted so that makes him arrogant? One really does have to wonder. People usually throw that term around when they can't think of something substantial to argue back with.
Anyway I don't think we've seen an elf-blood yet but who knows, maybe we'll get to see one in DA 2.
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