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[Apollo Starflare]

It's funny, I've never played The Witcher (although I've heard a number of mixed opinions from people who have) however seeing people constantly rant about it actually manages to put me off playing it on principle. I mean half the time they are complaining about DA2 'looking' like it's more hack n slash, while the Witcher is sitting there being an openly more hack n slash-style game, with less customisation options to boot. I still wouldn't go over to the CD Projekt forums and start ranting about how it looks to me without playing it first though, but I suppose everyone has to have a hobby.

[FedericoV]

Mustikos wrote...

How are they smart if they bought the same game twice? If they where "smart" they would have figured out  it was same game but  enchanced/ patched version.

Infact, they are not smart. I was moking them.

CDred also told people they where going to allow people to upgrade to
those editions free. Besides it was more then a patch, they went back
and re did alot of the diolauge, new voice actors, ect for every lanague
version. So yeah it was actualy enchanced in some aspect.

They have to redid those things because in the "un-enhanced" version, translated dialogues were inane and the voice acting was ridiculous. So, thank you but you should have done it right at the first time since the game was supposed to be an AAA title worth 50 € of my money and not an indie title.

Broke means it didnt' work, it worked, it was just really slow loading at times. So don't tell me what to call it.

Call it as you will. I just don't understand why people are so upset with Bioware for any thing they do, allways changing reality with pseudo facts and supporting their opinions with wrong info, but are willing to buy any marketing **** from the Cd-Red guys and forgive any error they make.

Modifié par FedericoV, 10 novembre 2010 - 11:12 .

[aznsoisauce]

Apollo Starflare wrote...

It's funny, I've never played The Witcher (although I've heard a number of mixed opinions from people who have) however seeing people constantly rant about it actually manages to put me off playing it on principle. I mean half the time they are complaining about DA2 'looking' like it's more hack n slash, while the Witcher is sitting there being an openly more hack n slash-style game, with less customisation options to boot. I still wouldn't go over to the CD Projekt forums and start ranting about how it looks to me without playing it first though, but I suppose everyone has to have a hobby.

I bought The Witcher last year and the only reason I haven't played through it was because I was actually getting motion sick after the first 10 minutes. So I still have no idea how good the game is...but I do planning on playing it eventually. I just have to get over my fear of that same motion sickness again.

Speaking of not knowing how good a game is because one hasn't actually played it yet! That's you, OP.

[Vulee94]

FedericoV wrote...

I just don't understand why people are so upset with Bioware for any thing they do, allways changing reality with pseudo facts and supporting their opinions with wrong info, but are willing to buy any marketing **** from the Cd-Red guys and forgive any error they make.

Because they sold out to EA, duh.

[Lukertin]

aznsoisauce wrote...
I bought The Witcher last year and the only reason I haven't played through it was because I was actually getting motion sick after the first 10 minutes. So I still have no idea how good the game is...but I do planning on playing it eventually. I just have to get over my fear of that same motion sickness again.

Speaking of not knowing how good a game is because one hasn't actually played it yet! That's you, OP.

It's pretty good story-wise.  The combat, however, is arguably worse than DA:O's, if that is possible.

[FedericoV]

Vulee94 wrote...

FedericoV wrote...

I just don't understand why people are so upset with Bioware for any thing they do, allways changing reality with pseudo facts and supporting their opinions with wrong info, but are willing to buy any marketing **** from the Cd-Red guys and forgive any error they make.

Because they sold out to EA, duh.

What? EA bought CD Red too ? I can't find the news in the last issue of the PC-love-informer .

[Calla S]

Don't like the game? Don't want to hear any more about the game? Think the game looks like ****? Then get off the forums. I will never understand how people don't grasp this concept. It's not rocket science. 

I just don't have enough hands for the amount of facepalm this thread deserves.

[Vulee94]

FedericoV wrote...

Vulee94 wrote...

FedericoV wrote...

I just don't understand why people are so upset with Bioware for any thing they do, allways changing reality with pseudo facts and supporting their opinions with wrong info, but are willing to buy any marketing **** from the Cd-Red guys and forgive any error they make.

Because they sold out to EA, duh.

What? EA bought CD Red too ? I can't find the news in the last issue of the PC-love-informer .

Oh, I meant BioWare, sorry. (btw. this forum needs a sarcastic smiley)

[Lyssistr]

MIke_18 wrote...

Torclight 2
Deus Ex 3
Grim Dawn
Dead State
Guild Wars 2
Neverwinter
Darkspore
Tera

And ofc 

The Witcher 2

Hope console gamers have fun though.

Forgot Diablo III, Drakensang :The River of Time, and RIsen 2 maybe? I hope.

Not that I care about consolized h&s's but I think this list is not a valid pov.

 Neverwinter is an MMO, Guild Wars II also an MMO. Regarding Darkspore, is this an rpg? Drakensang better be improved in comparison to their first title. Risen 2, if anything like Risen, will be an Oblivion-like game (Two worlds II that is also coming out will also be like this). 

 Torchlight II & Diablo III are bound to rock but they're h&s, I don't view them as a role-playing experience. Btw Diablo III doesn't have a release date yet, I'll play Torchlight II as a filler till D III is released.

 The Witcher 2 is likely to be a good aRPG, which is the closest one can get to a roleplaying experience from your list, still it holds no relative advantage to DA2. I know I'm a minority in this but I'm not the biggest Witcher fan you'll see but I consent the game can only be called a success.

 Can't say about the rest, I'm not following Deus Ex and I have no idea what Grim Dawn, Dead State and Tera are like.

 There is also Dungeon Siege coming out, which will have multi-coop, if my memory doesn't fail me.

 In my view criticism on DA2 should be focused on DA2, I'd much rather see old-school combat but if you decide make an h&s or aRPG, implement some damn multi-coop, else why bother with Torchlight II & Diablo III coming out soon.

[aznsoisauce]

Lukertin wrote...

aznsoisauce wrote...
I bought The Witcher last year and the only reason I haven't played through it was because I was actually getting motion sick after the first 10 minutes. So I still have no idea how good the game is...but I do planning on playing it eventually. I just have to get over my fear of that same motion sickness again.

Speaking of not knowing how good a game is because one hasn't actually played it yet! That's you, OP.

It's pretty good story-wise.  The combat, however, is arguably worse than DA:O's, if that is possible.

People can keep telling me that, but I can't believe it until I actually play through it. Thank you, though, for some small encouragement to play something I bought. :happy:

[Mustikos]

FedericoV wrote...

Mustikos wrote...

How are they smart if they bought the same game twice? If they where "smart" they would have figured out  it was same game but  enchanced/ patched version.

Infact, they are not smart. I was moking them.

CDred also told people they where going to allow people to upgrade to
those editions free. Besides it was more then a patch, they went back
and re did alot of the diolauge, new voice actors, ect for every lanague
version. So yeah it was actualy enchanced in some aspect.

They have to redid those things because in the "un-enhanced" version, translated dialogues were inane and the voice acting was ridiculous. So, thank you but you should have done it right at the first time since the game was supposed to be an AAA title worth 50 € of my money and not an indie title.

Broke means it didnt' work, it worked, it was just really slow loading at times. So don't tell me what to call it.

Call it as you will. I just don't understand why people are so upset with Bioware for any thing they do, allways changing reality with pseudo facts and supporting their opinions with wrong info, but are willing to buy any marketing **** from the Cd-Red guys and forgive any error they make.

I kinda figure you where mocking them. Lots of games have issue at the start and nothing really bothered me and it did you, the only diffence here is realy a matter of opinion and what each judges the value of what they have.

Well im cerntaily not one of those people who are upset with bioware, sure there a few things I am kinda of "Iffy" about but I am stil waiting on some of the facts to be shown.  In fact this is really the first time I have even posted on the DA2 forums.

As far as people defending CD-Red. Smaller companies are usally just cut more slack then a bigger company, basicly people can see it as  "big evil copration vs smaller indie company". I support indie companys like ironclad,stardocks, etc because they generaly make games that are more "core" in some ascpets. Well core might be the wrong thing,  inidies just seem to make more of the sci fi games I like.



Edited for people getting the wrong idea..

Modifié par Mustikos, 10 novembre 2010 - 11:55 .

[upsettingshorts]

I support developers who make games I like to play. Everything else is goddamn nonsense. If you have a problem with capitalism, join a Marxist book group. I hear Kapital is a fascinating read.  If you want to root for teams, follow sports.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 10 novembre 2010 - 11:26 .

[Mustikos]

Lukertin wrote...

aznsoisauce wrote...
I bought The Witcher last year and the only reason I haven't played through it was because I was actually getting motion sick after the first 10 minutes. So I still have no idea how good the game is...but I do planning on playing it eventually. I just have to get over my fear of that same motion sickness again.

Speaking of not knowing how good a game is because one hasn't actually played it yet! That's you, OP.

It's pretty good story-wise.  The combat, however, is arguably worse than DA:O's, if that is possible.

Agreed on the story, it's better (imo of course) if you read the books, you get more out of it. I woulnd't say the combat is worse then DA:0 because their nothing alike besides being able to pause the game, which I didn't find myself doing much in witcher. The thing with the witcher is you kind of have to have some what of  twitch like ablites to keep the combos up. 

[Vulee94]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

I support developers who make games I like to play. Everything else is goddamn nonsense. If you have a problem with capitalism, join a Marxist book group. I hear Kapital is a fascinating read.  If you want to root for teams, follow sports.

Marxists like RPG's too...

[Ex_Everest]

Calla S wrote...

Don't like the game? Don't want to hear any more about the game? Think the game looks like ****? Then get off the forums. I will never understand how people don't grasp this concept. It's not rocket science. 

I just don't have enough hands for the amount of facepalm this thread deserves.

So you're saying that only good things should be said about the game on the forum? I don't think this is a valid thread, as far as I can see, the only thing it does is nurture the OP's hurt ego, but simply because you, or the majority likes the game doesn't make your opinion more valid than the minority who disagrees. I haven't got enough hands for the amount of facepalm this post deserves. (Don't act like a child, simply because you like something and another person doesn't, doesn't immediately mean that you're right and they're wrong).

Modifié par Ex_Everest, 10 novembre 2010 - 11:35 .

[upsettingshorts]

Vulee94 wrote...
Marxists like RPG's too...

Then they should be using their keen economic minds to explain DLC using the labor theory of value!

[Mustikos]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

I support developers who make games I like to play. Everything else is goddamn nonsense. If you have a problem with capitalism, join a Marxist book group. I hear Kapital is a fascinating read.  If you want to root for teams, follow sports.

Are you responding to me?  I was saying thats how people probalby see it, I was responding to that guy who asked why people can put up with CD-red when they  have bugs etc, but not when bioware EA does. I was being sarcrastic in the "big evil corpation vs Underdog"  in that thats probably how some people see it.  I said I support indie compaines which I do, but I also buy EA games. So how am I marxist?  DA2 and W2 are on the top of my list of games I want to get next year.

Plus I hate sports.

Modifié par Mustikos, 10 novembre 2010 - 11:37 .

[Apollo Starflare]

Ex_Everest wrote...

Calla S wrote...

Don't like the game? Don't want to hear any more about the game? Think the game looks like ****? Then get off the forums. I will never understand how people don't grasp this concept. It's not rocket science. 

I just don't have enough hands for the amount of facepalm this thread deserves.

So you're saying that only good things should be said about the game on the forum? I don't think this is a valid thread, as far as I can see, the only thing it does is satiate the OP's hurt ego, but simply because you, or the majority likes the game doesn't make your opinion more valid than the minority who disagrees. I haven't got enough hands for the amount of facepalm this post deserves. (Don't act like a child, simply because you like something and another person doesn't, doesn't immediately mean that you're right and they're wrong).

I think you'll find regular posters here just get a bit fed up with threads that don't offer any constructive criticism or fears, threads like this serve no real purpose but to cause a stir. It's barely DA2 related even. If the OP had posted a well thought out post about how DA2 wasn't matching up to their expectations of what makes a quality PC RPG then I think replies such as Calla's would be different.

You know I feel sorry for the day when CD Projekt reach that inevitable point where they either fade into obscurity or have become well known and popular enough to get picked apart and told they are selling out (or insert Bioware insult here). They seem like a talented bunch of developers, I'm sure it won't take long.

[upsettingshorts]

Mustikos wrote...

Are you responding to me?  I was saying thats how people probalby see it, I was responding to that guy who asked
why people can put up with CD-red when they  have bugs etc, but not when bioware EA does. I was being sarcrastic in the "big evil corpation vs Underdog"  in that thats probably how some people see it.  I said I support indie compaines which I do, but I also buy EA games. So how am I marxist?  DA2 and W2 are on the top of my list of games I want to get
next year.

Plus I hate sports.

Your post was the catalyst but it was more of a general statement.

That being said, if you hate sports that's fine. But rooting for developers, consoles, or other such stuff is nonsense. There is no league where Bioware is scheduled to play a home-and-home series with CD Projekt with the winner going on to play Valve in the final. They make games and we buy them or we don't. That's all there is to it.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 10 novembre 2010 - 11:40 .

[Ex_Everest]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

I support developers who make games I like to play. Everything else is goddamn nonsense.

Nobody give this guy any power.

[Morrigans God son]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Edit: Nevermind, this thread ain't worth it.

Why are you still posting then?

[upsettingshorts]

Ex_Everest wrote...

Nobody give this guy any power.

How is my relative influence relevant?  Developers make games.  I buy them or I don't.  There really isn't anything else to it, nor should there be.

Morrigans God son wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Edit: Nevermind, this thread ain't worth it.

Why are you still posting then?

It wasn't worth me getting banned over the personal attack that was in that post.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 10 novembre 2010 - 11:39 .

[Vulee94]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Vulee94 wrote...
Marxists like RPG's too...

Then they should be using their keen economic minds to explain DLC using the labor theory of value!

They are too busy planning the world revolution, but I'll ask them about it.
No promises.

[Ex_Everest]

Apollo Starflare wrote...

I think you'll find regular posters here just get a bit fed up with threads that don't offer any constructive criticism or fears, threads like this serve no real purpose but to cause a stir. It's barely DA2 related even. If the OP had posted a well thought out post about how DA2 wasn't matching up to their expectations of what makes a quality PC RPG then I think replies such as Calla's would be different.

You know I feel sorry for the day when CD Projekt reach that inevitable point where they either fade into obscurity or have become well known and popular enough to get picked apart and told they are selling out (or insert Bioware insult here). They seem like a talented bunch of developers, I'm sure it won't take long.

I agree with the first sentiment (That's not what the person said, however), as for the CD Projekt reference, there's always the third way, the Valve way, with totalitarian creative control done best.

[TM13h]

MIke_18 wrote...
Hope console gamers have fun though.

You know that it's true.