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[stoicsentry2]

TW2 is a great game. I'm definitely going to be spending more time on this than DA2. In fact, probably five times as much time if not more!

[slimgrin]

erynnar wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

LiquidGrape wrote...

I don't know. It just smells bad erotic fan fiction.
Whatever else one might say of DA2, it wasn't exploitative.

Hey, thanks for playing 'that' card. We never hear that around here.

Yeah, never. I am watching my hubby's playthrough and I haven't seen anything that doesn't fit with a medieval setting, nor that is truly exploitive. Any sex has been natural and in the right time and place. How about you slim?

Haven't had any encounters yet. The first prostitute I walked up to told me to buzz off, lol.  

[Chromie]

neppakyo wrote...

I love Iorveth's english voice actor. I'm a straight male, but hearing him shout, get angry, well just generally speaking makes the ol' walnut sack tingle a bit.

Man I miss the old VO for the Kingslayer, Iorweth and Zoltan. Zoltan especially...he doesn't sound like the fun dwarf I knew from Witcher 1!

Zoltan's original VO

and

Kingslayer and Iorweth

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

neppakyo wrote...

@Evil Twin.

Running at 1680x1050. In some situations I drop to around 28FPS but chugging at a steady 40ish, sometimes higher FPS. High spec gets me around 60-80ish FPS

Screw high spec, ultra eye candy is what it's all about.



What model GTX 460 do you have? With a little TLC, you could probably get it running at 900 Mhz. Some really good ones get to 950mhz-1Ghz, but that's unlikely on a normal card.

[RyuGuitarFreak]

RageGT wrote...

RyuGuitarFreak wrote...

I'm on the verge of killing myself right now. First of all, I didn't know I had to keep the formulas and I'm almost without potions to do, even swallows. Then I discovered it after I closed the potions shopping, so I've got no way of get them back now and I suppose I have to keep something for the boss. I have a few of them and I can't get passed the cavern with 1000 nekkers which I can't kill them myself because they kill me with a few hits. God ****in' dammit.

Reload an earlier save or* suffer the consequences! And it's not hard to acquire formulas, ingredients and brew the potions again. Reduce diff it it seems impossible. First playthrough, must learn for next runs! hehe

Oh I got through and got some other formulas to compensate. I've got some high emotions on this game. From uber happiness to frustration, then happiness again.

I just got from Loberdo's house and my god what a game.

Now, can someone tell me how to close the nekkers's caves?

Modifié par RyuGuitarFreak, 20 mai 2011 - 02:56 .

[erynnar]

MassFrost wrote...

erynnar wrote...

DAMMIT! I am soooo green with envy of you all you sods! I love you all, but I hate you too!!! *goes back to watching hubby play* I will say, it is so damn beautiful and interesting you can watch someone play it for hours too!

I know what you mean, I always know that I'm playing a quality game when my wife can't stop watching me play it. She's been drooling over TW2 even more than she did Portal 2, and she absolutely loved that game.

OH I am drooling so bad! *wipes hubby's shoulder with a towel*

@Liquiegrape, okay that card thing may have been a cheap shot, but it made me giggle all the same.

[LiquidGrape]

erynnar wrote...

RageGT wrote...

Exploitation? I bet the love scenes in the books the game is based are written for adults, not for teenagers!

And the 1st free DLC is so good. The decisions, the consequences, the final feeling of justice has been done!

Persie, what level was Geralt at your ending? =)

Fancy that, treating players like adults...who'da thunk it. I love DA, but sometimes I feel like the M for Mature really isn't. Some parts seem written by giggling school girls for giggling school girls. TW2 M for Mature has been just that. It hasn't been porn at all.

Well, my issue with the sexual content in W2 isn't that it is explicit. In fact, think interactive media in general should embrace sexual themes more widely, seeing as it is such a natural element in storytelling. This dilly-dallying around the issue makes us all appear more infantile than we really are, and it's a disservice we shouldn't stand for!

What I do not think one should embrace, however, is pandering.
I realise this is an interpretation which is up for grabs, but I cannot see the erotic cutscenes of W2 as anything but moist appeasement.
They were wise enough to remove the whole card collection business, however. I think that should be noted, and the developers should be commended for it. That mechanic was simply put the most laughable display in male self-gratification I've ever seen in a roleplaying game.

Modifié par LiquidGrape, 20 mai 2011 - 02:58 .

[erynnar]

slimgrin wrote...

erynnar wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

LiquidGrape wrote...

I don't know. It just smells bad erotic fan fiction.
Whatever else one might say of DA2, it wasn't exploitative.

Hey, thanks for playing 'that' card. We never hear that around here.

Yeah, never. I am watching my hubby's playthrough and I haven't seen anything that doesn't fit with a medieval setting, nor that is truly exploitive. Any sex has been natural and in the right time and place. How about you slim?

Haven't had any encounters yet. The first prostitute I walked up to told me to buzz off, lol.  

ROFL!!! Oh snap! Hubby tried to bribe one to distract someone (no spoilers) she told him she wouldn't show him a ****** for the amount he offered. SNORT! Tell me that isn't power.

[erynnar]

LiquidGrape wrote...

erynnar wrote...

RageGT wrote...

Exploitation? I bet the love scenes in the books the game is based are written for adults, not for teenagers!

And the 1st free DLC is so good. The decisions, the consequences, the final feeling of justice has been done!

Persie, what level was Geralt at your ending? =)

Fancy that, treating players like adults...who'da thunk it. I love DA, but sometimes I feel like the M for Mature really isn't. Some parts seem written by giggling school girls for giggling school girls. TW2 M for Mature has been just that. It hasn't been porn at all.

Well, my issue with the sexual content in W2 isn't that it is explicit. In fact, think interactive media in general should embrace sexual themes more widely, seeing as it is such a natural element in storytelling. This dilly-dallying around the issue makes us all appear more infantile than we really are, and it's a disservice we shouldn't stand for!

What I do not think one should embrace, however, is pandering.
I realise this is an interpretation which is up for grabs, but I cannot see the erotic cutscenes of W2 as anything but moist appeasement.
They were wise enough to remove the whole card collection business, however. I think that should be noted, and the developers should be commended for it. That mechanic was simply put the most laughable display in male self-gratification I've ever seen in a roleplaying game.

OH, I think I understand what you mean. They took out the stupid card set which was juvenile in my eyes too. Very young male appeasement. Hmm I haven't seen too many cut aways for sex scenes yet. Hubby must not be being enough of a player. And it isnt' because of me.

[Maverick827]

RageGT wrote...

The Witcher 2 - The King is Dead! (Long live the New King of cRPG's!)

Try this one?

It's better, but then again, how could it not be?  That "bath" scene is among one of the worst I have ever seen in a highly-lauded game, and don't mistake that for hyperbole.

Are there any better clips of Geralt, specificially?  The other scene taking place in the first video (I couldn't really tell what was going on, but you know the one) was fine: the voice acting was fine, the dialog was fine.  It was just Geralt that was terrible, but that's obviously not a good thing.  If anything, it should be the other way around.

The assassin in that scene was rather silly looking, though, like something out of Gears of War.  If he's a prominent character, that could be another (albeit smaller) problem.

If I have to play a pre-defined character, he should at least be animated and poised.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

erynnar wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

erynnar wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

LiquidGrape wrote...

I don't know. It just smells bad erotic fan fiction.
Whatever else one might say of DA2, it wasn't exploitative.

Hey, thanks for playing 'that' card. We never hear that around here.

Yeah, never. I am watching my hubby's playthrough and I haven't seen anything that doesn't fit with a medieval setting, nor that is truly exploitive. Any sex has been natural and in the right time and place. How about you slim?

Haven't had any encounters yet. The first prostitute I walked up to told me to buzz off, lol.  

ROFL!!! Oh snap! Hubby tried to bribe one to distract someone (no spoilers) she told him she wouldn't show him a ****** for the amount he offered. SNORT! Tell me that isn't power.

Lol, I know what you're talking about. You can get around it though by <spoiler>doing her a favour and arm wrestling some of the soldiers<spoiler>

I was really surprised they put it into the game. Like it wasn't fully explicit or anything, but umm. Well, play through the scene. I was expecting them to leave and go somewhere else but... yeah, play through it.

[neppakyo]

mrcrusty wrote...

neppakyo wrote...

@Evil Twin.

Running at 1680x1050. In some situations I drop to around 28FPS but chugging at a steady 40ish, sometimes higher FPS. High spec gets me around 60-80ish FPS

Screw high spec, ultra eye candy is what it's all about.



What model GTX 460 do you have? With a little TLC, you could probably get it running at 900 Mhz. Some really good ones get to 950mhz-1Ghz, but that's unlikely on a normal card.

its an eVGA, and no, not the SE one. The standard 1GB one. I'm already well over a 1000mhz on the memory clock i think from the stock, and about 100mhz over the stock core clock.

[marshalleck]

Maverick827 wrote...

The assassin in that scene was rather silly looking, though, like something out of Gears of War.  If he's a prominent character, that could be another (albeit smaller) problem.

His appearance is quite remarkable to all the characters in the game as well--they think he's entirely abnormal also. I'm not far enough along in the game to really learn much more about him, though; he pretty much remains on the peripheral through most of chapter 1 it seems. Characters just talk about him, you don't really see him doing anything though it is made quite clear that he's up to something. 

Modifié par marshalleck, 20 mai 2011 - 03:15 .

[_Aine_]

I'm being a player. Still there hasn't been much of anything. lol Sure, you see nudity every now and then but it is part of the game, it isn't being "sold" to you, or set up in a framework of gratuitous exploitation. Nor am I moist from being "appeased" (Thanks for the visual though, that was great.....) everything that has been in the game has FIT the game and the surroundings. Ok, there was the blacksmith wandering around in his smallclothes pants and apron, but beside that....

The game is gritty and coarse. Lots of very earthy and common-folk coarse language. It is a bit ... not shocking, that is the wrong word...but "obvious" from the sterile land we usually roam in North American video games where the sex and language is used for pure titilation factor and featured more widely in advertising meant to get you to buy the game than as a background of normalcy IN a game....but it fits.   And I LOVE the stupid brawling mini-game. How easy is it? (Hint: It's really easy)  But it is fun

If you prefer the sterile scrubbed environment of a prince's royal nursery where the reality and dirt of everyday life is removed so everything is clean and immaculate.... TW2 is not your game. They talk a lot of dirt, people like sex (even if you don't see it sold to you...well, unless you can convince the ones who let you pay - heck, even they aren't that easy lol) and they swear....a great deal.

Still, it fits. If I disembowel someone and then say "drat" when stabbed in the head, it would seem a bit....off. Geralt does have some funny language though. Instead of swearing, he once said " I have had enough of your malarkey." LOL Now THAT was unexpected

And I would pay money to have the resonance of the original Iorveth's voice back.  That was enough to almost provoke an indecent act.  Almost.  

Modifié par shantisands, 20 mai 2011 - 03:20 .

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

neppakyo wrote...

mrcrusty wrote...

neppakyo wrote...

@Evil Twin.

Running at 1680x1050. In some situations I drop to around 28FPS but chugging at a steady 40ish, sometimes higher FPS. High spec gets me around 60-80ish FPS

Screw high spec, ultra eye candy is what it's all about.



What model GTX 460 do you have? With a little TLC, you could probably get it running at 900 Mhz. Some really good ones get to 950mhz-1Ghz, but that's unlikely on a normal card.

its an eVGA, and no, not the SE one. The standard 1GB one. I'm already well over a 1000mhz on the memory clock i think from the stock, and about 100mhz over the stock core clock.

Hmm.. fair enough. I know the standard clock is at 675 Mhz, but I've seen people overclock their GTX 460 core clocks past 900mhz. Probably requires watercooling or non reference model+cooler though.

[Monica83]

Finished and i must say Da2 can't hope to beat this MASTERPIECE.. THe story the art the character the music the voice acting... All is so awesome its like a drug i can't stop to play ^^

Love it

[Boiny Bunny]

mrcrusty wrote...

Ery,just boot your husband off the computer.

Indeed!  He shouldn't be the only one able to enjoy the game! 

[marshalleck]

Monica83 wrote...

Finished and i must say Da2 can't hope to beat this MASTERPIECE.. THe story the art the character the music the voice acting... All is so awesome its like a drug i can't stop to play ^^

Love it

Well of course DA2 can't. I'm rather more curious to see what Bioware is going to take away from this; ME3 is probably more or less feature complete and ironed out, especially the writing. I wonder how they are going to respond to Witcher 2 and Skyrim. Since ME2 it has seemed to me Bioware's standards have dropped and keep dropping. They've had no competition for too long and have become complacent, lazy, ran out of ideas and don't really seem to even care. With the complete thrashing they've gotten from CDPR (and not just compared to DA2, but DAO/ME2/KotOR/Jade Empire as well) and the inevitable failure that will be TOR I think Bioware are about done for. It would be great to see them dissolve, or at least all their talented staff leave EA and reform a new studio where they can work under their own timelines again, making the games they want to make--not what corporate suits demand.

[DragonRageGT]

Boiny Bunny wrote...

mrcrusty wrote...

Ery,just boot your husband off the computer.

Indeed!  He shouldn't be the only one able to enjoy the game! 

Yeah. show him how it's done! Never offer 40 bucks to bribe a Lady but 80 will do the trick! heh

Ryu... a little Nekker spoiler in you Inbox!

[Maverick827]

marshalleck wrote...

Well of course DA2 can't. I'm rather more curious to see what Bioware is going to take away from this; ME3 is probably more or less feature complete and ironed out, especially the writing. I wonder how they are going to respond to Witcher 2 and Skyrim. Since ME2 it has seemed to me Bioware's standards have dropped and keep dropping. They've had no competition for too long and have become complacent, lazy, ran out of ideas and don't really seem to even care. With the complete thrashing they've gotten from CDPR (and not just compared to DA2, but DAO/ME2/KotOR/Jade Empire as well) and the inevitable failure that will be TOR I think Bioware are about done for. It would be great to see them dissolve, or at least all their talented staff leave EA and reform a new studio where they can work under their own timelines again, making the games they want to make--not what corporate suits demand.

You sure do think your inane assumptions are absolute fact.

[Khayness]

Maverick827 wrote...

You sure do think your inane assumptions are absolute fact.

The patterns are there, buried in the data.

[marshalleck]

Maverick827 wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Well of course DA2 can't. I'm rather more curious to see what Bioware is going to take away from this; ME3 is probably more or less feature complete and ironed out, especially the writing. I wonder how they are going to respond to Witcher 2 and Skyrim. Since ME2 it has seemed to me Bioware's standards have dropped and keep dropping. They've had no competition for too long and have become complacent, lazy, ran out of ideas and don't really seem to even care. With the complete thrashing they've gotten from CDPR (and not just compared to DA2, but DAO/ME2/KotOR/Jade Empire as well) and the inevitable failure that will be TOR I think Bioware are about done for. It would be great to see them dissolve, or at least all their talented staff leave EA and reform a new studio where they can work under their own timelines again, making the games they want to make--not what corporate suits demand.

You sure do think your inane assumptions are absolute fact.

What is an inane assumption about the turn-around time between DAO and DA2 being less than 2 years? And TOR? Have you paid any attention to the MMO landscape for the last few years? It's not fertile ground, my friend. Sinking 100+ million dollars into developing a fully voiced, single-player-with-NPC-companions MMORPG is what qualifies as A Bad Idea. It will not be the success they need it to be--it just won't. Look at every other MMO in existence that isn't WoW. None of them put up the kind of long-term sustainable numbers that TOR will need to survive.

Modifié par marshalleck, 20 mai 2011 - 03:36 .

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

I think it's more the insinuation that Bioware has gotten lazy and no longer cares about their work. Which I would consider going too far. It's obvious that they do care about their work.

Also the notion that they start their own studio to free themselves from corporate shackles or whatever to usher in good RPGs or w/e. That's not what really happens, because we've seen it before.

In the case of Troika, it destroyed them.

In the case of Obsidian, their balls have perpetually been caught in the vice of publishers ever since they left Interplay.

Modifié par mrcrusty, 20 mai 2011 - 03:39 .

[_Aine_]

Competition is a healthy, healthy thing to have, if you approach it correctly. I have little doubt that the individuals themselves at Bioware will want to better their own work and grow as a whole... other successful games only help spur that creativity and drive to move forward on.

[Monica83]

right now i have much more thrust in cd-project than bioware...And thei marketing trick and pr lies...

Press a button and something awesome has to happen.. button awesome....

Congrats ladiaw *applause* and Ea of course