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Bryy_Miller wrote...

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It seems the game isn't very reactive to the player going outside the intended flow of quests. I've also had it happen numerous times that dialogue options popped up about characters I hadn't even met yet.


Yeah, that was a bit weird.


This is true. In Act II there's a huge quest where you've got to kill a guy to get his armor. I did.

Later I talk to an important NPC and both Geralt and he talked as though I had not killed that dude, wasn't wearing the armor in question (!) and...........I guess it's another bout of convenient amnesia.:devil:

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Bryy_Miller

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That was a pretty fun fight. Although, I wish I could have talked the guy down like I did with Aryan.

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Bryy_Miller wrote...

That was a pretty fun fight. Although, I wish I could have talked the guy down like I did with Aryan.


Same. I died very often in that fight though because of the confined....dungeon. Kept rolling into stuff and people.

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Bryy_Miller wrote...

Maria, I think you give the content of this thread too much credit. :D


I'm congenitally serious. It's a real condision and you should not mock me for it. :P

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Honestly, though, I'm pretty satisfied with my first completed run. I'm only doing round two to see the different paths (I mean, honestly, it's a great learning experience as a starting dev myself).

Gaming technology has come so far. The RED Engine demo video melted my brain.

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Bryy_Miller wrote...

Honestly, though, I'm pretty satisfied with my first completed run. I'm only doing round two to see the different paths (I mean, honestly, it's a great learning experience as a starting dev myself).

Gaming technology has come so far. The RED Engine demo video melted my brain.


I love the game myself. Second runthrough atm.......utterly fascinating. I cannot wait for those DLC. If Troll Trouble is an indicator........lots of great stuff comin' up!

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I cannot wait for those DLC. If Troll Trouble is an indicator........lots of great stuff comin' up!


Don't get me started on DLC. I have grown to dislike it not because of a trivial notion of "what it is/us vs. them", but because it has literally widened the gap between those that know how games are made and those that don't.

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Upsettingshorts wrote...

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I'm careful not to get too excited for it. I'll wait and see if the general consensus feels it leans more towards the first game, than Invisible War. Most disappointing sequel ever(for me, anyway).

Well, most previews seem to say it is closer to DX1.  But believe me, I played IW too.  I'm not exactly assured either.

I enjoyed Invisible War. It wasn't a bad game; it was an average game in a series that people wanted to be exceptional all around.

I have no problem getting excited about games, books, or movies because I rarely demand they be 'the greatest' or fitting some ideal I have for the genre or series. In fact, outside of the Star Wars prequel, most movie goers don't expect to the greatest [insert genre] movie when they go to the theaters and most readers don't expect greatness every time they open a new book.

Only when it comes to games, do people act like 7/10 must mean something is crap.

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Maria Caliban wrote...
Only when it comes to games, do people act like 7/10 must mean something is crap.


I've seen reviews where someone will give it a 9, but say something less than flattering about one single portion of the Object, and people go apeshoot.

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RageGT wrote...

I love my Hunter's Armor with three +2Armor +10Vitality enhancements (total 16 AC +30Vita) than Kayran Armor. There, I've said it! With the same enhancements Kayran's would have AC 15 and +60 Vita. The bonuses on them are the very same and Hunter's does not force a hood upon my Geralt! yay!


Yeah, I don't like hoods in general.

Though grudgingly I've crafted the Kayran armor in Act II, because I needed the Kayran armor enchancement for more parry goodness, only to find the Ban Ard armor 5 minutes later. :P

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Bryy_Miller wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...
Only when it comes to games, do people act like 7/10 must mean something is crap.


I've seen reviews where someone will give it a 9, but say something less than flattering about one single portion of the Object, and people go apeshoot.

I suspect part of the problem is that the medium is new, so there are no established upper boundaries, and the demographic skews younger male. Or, at least, the marketing of the games skew younger male and the games themselves seem to cater to that perception.

When I was a sophomore in high school, I read The Sound and the Fury. When I was sophomore in college, I took a Milton class and spent five weeks reading and talking about Paradise Lost.

When I go to the new release section in a bookstore, the chances of my finding a book that rivals either of those two when it comes to literary quality is so miniscule as to be irreverent. Alternatively, when I go to the computer game section of my local electronic store, I expect to see games that are superior to those I've picked up previously. I will likely expect this for decades to come.

Film seems to have found a nice middle ground. There are both recognized classics that are almost as enjoyable as when it came out but there's always room for an exceptional film that can become a new classic.

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Maria Caliban wrote...

When I go to the new release section in a bookstore, the chances of my finding a book that rivals either of those two when it comes to literary quality is so miniscule as to be irreverent.


If I'd hold up every new book I get to my all time favourite classics (I prefer the Romantic Era myself), then I wouldn't enjoy reading anymore.

That's an interesing mindset you have.

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Yeah we've discussed IW before I think. It's not that IW is bad. It's that it's nowhere near as good as DX1.

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Upsettingshorts wrote...

Yeah we've discussed IW before I think. It's not that IW is bad. It's that it's nowhere near as good as DX1.


I tried replaying IW recently. It was actually worse than I remembered. Meanwhile DX1 was exactly as good as I remembered despite it being on an older engine. The only good part about the sequel was the female option. I'm really hoping the next one is not another IW. But I doubt they will put back in most of the RP elements they stripped last time around. And I'm pretty sure we wont be able to alter the protaganist's appearance at all.

I'd feel more confident if Square wasn't involved. They've been disappointing me nearly every game of theirs I got in the last year. And they already got me to cancel my Dungeon Siege III preorder.

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Alistairlover94 wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Alistairlover94 wrote...

Deus Ex: HR might change that.


It might, and that's a big reason why a lot of folk are excited about it.  We'll see, of course.


I'm careful not to get too excited for it. I'll wait and see if the general consensus feels it leans more towards the first game, than Invisible War. Most disappointing sequel ever(for me, anyway).


Even that was less disappointing for me than DA2, for reasons I like to think I understand - and Deus Ex is one of those games (like Max Payne imo) that feels as good when you play it now as it did then, regardless of the change in graphics or anything else. A real classic of its genre, whatever we might decide that is. :D

Thing is, RPG games tend to get less rich and complex as the owners of the IP seek growth, so I kind of expect that sort of thing normally. 

The exceptions to that rule are the developers who we perceive as really loving the genre, which is why I went into DA2 thinking it would be good, because BioWare were on that list at that time. (More fool me, in retrospect, but never mind)

I wonder whether people think TW2 asserts the developer's right to be on that list.

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What are you waiting for? The game is worth every penny spent .. even two copies of mine that i bought. Compared to Dragon Fail2

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Archaven wrote...

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What are you waiting for? The game is worth every penny spent .. even two copies of mine that i bought. Compared to Dragon Fail2


Yeah, the first Dragon Fail sure rules all.<_<

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Khayness wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

When I go to the new release section in a bookstore, the chances of my finding a book that rivals either of those two when it comes to literary quality is so miniscule as to be irreverent.

If I'd hold up every new book I get to my all time favourite classics (I prefer the Romantic Era myself), then I wouldn't enjoy reading anymore.

That's an interesing mindset you have.

Did you just pick that one sentence out and ignore the rest of what I said? 'Cause that's sort of the exact opposite of what was written.

No adult goes to their bookstore and expects one of the new releases to be ONE OF THE GREATEST STORIES EVER. Very rarely does an adult go to the theater and expect the movie they're going to be ONE OF THE GREATEST MOVIES EVER. Yet game players do in fact assume that the next game they're interested might be ONE OF THE GREATEST GAMES EVER.

Heck, there are people in this very thread saying the Witcher 2 is one of the greatest RPGs ever made.

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http://www.gamevixen...hp?f=145&t=7008 Nude patch for The Witcher 2 see Triss naked omfg I got a huge boner

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I can't help but chuckle each time Letho appears on screen.

He's the evil version of Minsc:
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Maria Caliban wrote...

Did you just pick that one sentence out and ignore the rest of what I said? 'Cause that's sort of the exact opposite of what was written.


I still don't know that you enjoy new books or not.

Maria Caliban wrote...

Yet game players do in fact assume that the next game they're interested might be ONE OF THE GREATEST GAMES EVER.


That a thousand times, than proclaiming an old game the best ever and dismissing the new ones on bias.

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I think Maria is pointing out that she enjoys things for what they are without trying to assign their place in the pantheon of good/bad.

And that gamers have a habit of deciding that games are "best/worst ever" almost instinctively.

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OH! Thank you so much for the Minsc picture!!!

"Minsc leads! Swords for Everyone!" "Go for the Eyes, Boo!"

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Maria Caliban wrote...

Khayness wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

When I go to the new release section in a bookstore, the chances of my finding a book that rivals either of those two when it comes to literary quality is so miniscule as to be irreverent.

If I'd hold up every new book I get to my all time favourite classics (I prefer the Romantic Era myself), then I wouldn't enjoy reading anymore.

That's an interesing mindset you have.

Did you just pick that one sentence out and ignore the rest of what I said? 'Cause that's sort of the exact opposite of what was written.

No adult goes to their bookstore and expects one of the new releases to be ONE OF THE GREATEST STORIES EVER. Very rarely does an adult go to the theater and expect the movie they're going to be ONE OF THE GREATEST MOVIES EVER. Yet game players do in fact assume that the next game they're interested might be ONE OF THE GREATEST GAMES EVER.

Heck, there are people in this very thread saying the Witcher 2 is one of the greatest RPGs ever made.


You can't compare games with other media 1:1 as they highly depend on fast evolving technology.
As games get new technical possibilitys, people expect them to be used while the non technical aspects should be at least on par. So technical superiour and non technical equal means superiour overall.

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I found it great and amazing so my opinion, build on vast experience, matters a lot more to me than someone else's who I don't even know.

I've been going through OST and so far I really like the following;

Assassins of Kings
A Nearly Peaceful Place
The Path of a Kingslayer
Through the Underworld
Into the Fields
An Army Lying in Wait
A Watering Hole in the Harbor
Vergen by Night
A Quiet Corner
The Assassin Looms
Howl of the White Wolf
Sorceresses
The End is Never The Same

and 03 and 04 from Bonus Tracks


Very good OST. Going to add some of it to my Oblivion and Fallout music folders :wizard:

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