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#5926
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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

nbamaniac wrote...

or you could have a slightly weaker north but with a newly formed council that (hopefully) will help you against Nilfgaard. (a.k.a .saving the damsel)


He was talking about Henselt's fate in Act 2.
He can be alive and you can still save the damsel. Which I personally wouldn't do.




Hmmm i overlooked that part of the post.. anyway Kaedwin is better off with Henselt dead (purely opinion here) and Roche still managed to save Anais even when i did rescue the damsel. She wasn't surrendered to Redania afaik though and i'm sure it will make an impact in the next story. (plus Roche being a fugitive now)

EDIT: Err and yes it would be quite discomforting to see TW2 fans descending toward the fanboisim phase now.. Lets all remain civil here xD

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anyway Kaedwin is better off with Henselt dead (purely opinion here)


having a king dead without a heir really worked well for Temeria.

Yes he is a dick, so what? that matters squat in running a nation.

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Costin_Razvan wrote...

anyway Kaedwin is better off with Henselt dead (purely opinion here)


having a king dead without a heir really worked well for Temeria.

Yes he is a dick, so what? that matters squat in running a nation.


Especially when sparing him has a cutscene show that Kaedwen is strogner than ever and that thousands of Kaedwenis live better lives.

Henselt dying is a disaster for Kaedwen considering the international context.

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Well as much as possible we wouldn't want dicks running our state now would we? Plus those types of people are the most volatile and have the greatest tendency to make mistakes with the right provocation.

EDIT: Letho also once said to me that it didn't matter if Henselt himself was alive or dead. Nilfgaard was ready to goafter Foltest's death.

Modifié par nbamaniac, 28 mai 2011 - 05:51 .


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gastovski wrote...

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And some people are just too biased. If TW2 had a Bioware logo on the box it would be GOD. But it would also have EA logo so it would be EVIL!  Gladly, CDPR are neither!

Give me a ****ing break.  Like the game- fine.  But it's pretty ironic that you accuse people of fanboyism when you're one of the most obnoxious cheerleaders on BSN for why it's impossible to criticize TW2.  I've defended TW1 here, and criticize DA2 heavily.  Can you just accept some people don't like the game?  I know it blows your circuits, but just try.  It could be a fun mental experiment.


Spoken like a true Biodrone


Truth to be told, I don't see any Biodronism/BDFism in her post. Can't we all just get along and you know... agree to disagree?:o

#5931
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Hi all...havent been here since..page 170 O_o I think? LOL
I have to share... I really like the combat. It could be better, more fluid, but I dig it!
I'm playing on hard and gotta admit the game isnt HARD...its UNFORGIVING! :D I use the parry/riposte + signs and its efficient in every battle. Possitioning and battleplan is crucial. As having 4 of vigor at the start of act II ;)
Yes, vigor is very important I must say. I learned hard to appriciate it, not the damage, not the critical effects, but the tiny little thing that helps you to hold by a thread at the brink of annihilation ;D

Also, there is lots of running around when it comes to wrights. Eeevery time I meet'em :)

So how's the experience for you?

BTW I red somewhere they sold about 200K units by that time. Is it a large number? What do you think?

#5932
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Yeah, no need for such meaningless hostility.

[SPOILER!]

I had Henselt killed in first playthrough but then I thought to myself, wow wtf I just pretty much beheaded the nation. He can be an absolute dick but he seemed like a strong ruler despite all that and Roche should have been more careful in his dealings. imo:huh:

Modifié par Romantiq, 28 mai 2011 - 05:48 .


#5933
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Still haven´t reached that part, but Henselt is going to meet karma for his betrayal in the war with Nilfgaard. Kaedwen might be better with him, but the north is better without.

#5934
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nbamaniac wrote...

Well as much as possible we wouldn't want dicks running our state now would we? Plus those types of people are the most volatile and have the greatest tendency to make mistakes with the right provocation.


Would you care to provide an argument for that, or is it just that because Henselt is a dick means that inherently he is a bad king.

I want to see the argument how conquering Aedirn doesn't make Kaedwen stronger, how him killing Roche's men was not a smart call ( say what the hell you will, Roche was the head of a plot to weaken Kaedwen and I would have done the same thing ).

Raping Ves, while despicable ( and mind you Geralt says Ves lied so just bear that in mind ) does not mean **** about how good a king Henselt is. Keeping Dethmold as his advisor was not a bad choice, since Dethmold DOES get results and that's the important thing.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 28 mai 2011 - 05:57 .


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nbamaniac wrote...
EDIT: Letho also once said to me that it didn't matter if Henselt himself was alive or dead. Nilfgaard was ready to goafter Foltest's death.


But they would have a bigger advantage if Henselt is dead and Kaedwen collapses in civil war, like what happened with Temeria. It would essentially be only Redenia vs Nilfgaard in this scenario.

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Avalla'ch wrote...

gastovski wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

RageGT wrote...

And some people are just too biased. If TW2 had a Bioware logo on the box it would be GOD. But it would also have EA logo so it would be EVIL!  Gladly, CDPR are neither!

Give me a ****ing break.  Like the game- fine.  But it's pretty ironic that you accuse people of fanboyism when you're one of the most obnoxious cheerleaders on BSN for why it's impossible to criticize TW2.  I've defended TW1 here, and criticize DA2 heavily.  Can you just accept some people don't like the game?  I know it blows your circuits, but just try.  It could be a fun mental experiment.


Spoken like a true Biodrone


Truth to be told, I don't see any Biodronism/BDFism in her post. Can't we all just get along and you know... agree to disagree?:o


People in general@Overall I'd prefer it we'd leave other games/companies out of this thread if it's going to be a vs thread, never going to lead anywhere fun. Especially since there are avid fans on both sides of the equation.

Could be a little less blunt when it comes commenting, even if they do have a point(imo).
Sure it sounds like I'm trying to paint rainbows and flowers all over the place but it's easier to take someone seriously that way.

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hangmans tree wrote...

Hi all...havent been here since..page 170 O_o I think? LOL
I have to share... I really like the combat. It could be better, more fluid, but I dig it!
I'm playing on hard and gotta admit the game isnt HARD...its UNFORGIVING! :D I use the parry/riposte + signs and its efficient in every battle. Possitioning and battleplan is crucial. As having 4 of vigor at the start of act II ;)
Yes, vigor is very important I must say. I learned hard to appriciate it, not the damage, not the critical effects, but the tiny little thing that helps you to hold by a thread at the brink of annihilation ;D

Also, there is lots of running around when it comes to wrights. Eeevery time I meet'em :)

So how's the experience for you?

BTW I red somewhere they sold about 200K units by that time. Is it a large number? What do you think?


If the game is just selling 200K compared to DA2 2Million+.. Then i have to yell myself out what have earth became? Why sh!t games sells when awesome game don't? So CDPR must develop sh!t games so they will sell well too..

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

nbamaniac wrote...
EDIT: Letho also once said to me that it didn't matter if Henselt himself was alive or dead. Nilfgaard was ready to goafter Foltest's death.


But they would have a bigger advantage if Henselt is dead and Kaedwen collapses in civil war, like what happened with Temeria. It would essentially be only Redenia vs Nilfgaard in this scenario.


Henselt would rather part Temeria and Redania with Nilfgaard than go to war.

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88 on metacritic, hehe... WHAT? :/

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Spoiler...

Yea, playing with Roche and the special forces troops, it became personal, so Hanselt got he's in my play. I wonder how they will implement Roche in the sequel. Depending on your choices he can be a wanted man or work for another king, changing he's blue stripes gear to a red one.

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Nerevar-as wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

nbamaniac wrote...
EDIT: Letho also once said to me that it didn't matter if Henselt himself was alive or dead. Nilfgaard was ready to goafter Foltest's death.


But they would have a bigger advantage if Henselt is dead and Kaedwen collapses in civil war, like what happened with Temeria. It would essentially be only Redenia vs Nilfgaard in this scenario.


Henselt would rather part Temeria and Redania with Nilfgaard than go to war.


The risk is always there, sure, but that would make him a short sighted idiot. I don't think Henselt is a short sighted idiot. Kaedwen fought alongside the North once, I do not see why they wouldn't do so again, purely out of self-interest.

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Queen Meve is still around to kick Nilfgaard's arse.

Puzzling how she didn't feature in the game, considering her country is south of Aedirn and the damage she did to Nilfgaard in the last war.

Also, Mahakam's gnomes & dwarves probably still have gunpowder lying around for when **** hits the fan.

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He already did it once, with Aerdin I think. It´s not even metagaming (as with Yaevinn), Geralt knows.

And if Emhyr is coming back, I hope Ciri does too.

Modifié par Nerevar-as, 28 mai 2011 - 06:05 .


#5944
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Costin_Razvan wrote...

Would you care to provide an argument for that, or is it just that because Henselt is a dick means that inherently he is a bad king.

I want to see the argument how conquering Aedirn doesn't make Kaedwen stronger, how him killing Roche's men was not a smart call ( say what the hell you will, Roche was the head of a plot to weaken Kaedwen and I would have done the same thing ).

Raping Ves, while despicable ( and mind you Geralt says Ves lied so just bear that in mind ) does not mean **** about how good a king Henselt is. Keeping Dethmold as his advisor was not a bad choice, since Dethmold DOES get results and that's the important thing.


I never said Henselt was a politically bad king. He was even loved by the soldiers in fact, from hearsay in the camp. My point is that his volatile (and partly paranoid) behavior can make things quite unpredictable especially now that we know that the Nilfgaardians are marching North. I prefered him stepping down the throne and crowning a new king but we know that is an impossibility. And as I have said before, it was purely an opinion and not an argument.

Anyway can we skip to the part where Seltkirk and Vandergrift return from the dead to kill the scheming Emperor? :3

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He raped Ves.There are no forgiveness for rapists. King or beggar i'd kill him.

#5946
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Nerevar-as wrote...

He already did it once, with Aerdin I think. It´s not even metagaming (as with Yaevinn), Geralt knows.


Henselt also knows that Nilfgaard wanted to assassinate him for obvious reasons. The contexts are different. It would really require Henselt being a moron to do that.

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hangmans tree wrote...

88 on metacritic, hehe... WHAT? :/


Well if it drops to 0 i wouldn't bother .. it only tells you that most reviewers only review games that they have no background of and or no interest in. They are reviewing just for the sake that they are doing their 'job'.

There's a huge difference in just doing a 'job' than doing an 'excellent job'. If a developer put no efforts and love onto developing a game.. you end up just having A GAME. If a developer puts their heart and love with undying effort in games, then you have a masterpiece.

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I´ll take chances with Nilfgaard. Have to wonder if Emhyr has a new plan for saving the world (hopefully with less squick this time around) or it´s just ambition.

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Archaven wrote...

hangmans tree wrote...

Hi all...havent been here since..page 170 O_o I think? LOL
I have to share... I really like the combat. It could be better, more fluid, but I dig it!
I'm playing on hard and gotta admit the game isnt HARD...its UNFORGIVING! :D I use the parry/riposte + signs and its efficient in every battle. Possitioning and battleplan is crucial. As having 4 of vigor at the start of act II ;)
Yes, vigor is very important I must say. I learned hard to appriciate it, not the damage, not the critical effects, but the tiny little thing that helps you to hold by a thread at the brink of annihilation ;D

Also, there is lots of running around when it comes to wrights. Eeevery time I meet'em :)

So how's the experience for you?

BTW I red somewhere they sold about 200K units by that time. Is it a large number? What do you think?


If the game is just selling 200K compared to DA2 2Million+.. Then i have to yell myself out what have earth became? Why sh!t games sells when awesome game don't? So CDPR must develop sh!t games so they will sell well too..


No... Week (one) sales NOT including digital sales was 212k on the PC aka the only format it's on right now. IF compare with DA2 week one sales on PC only to make the comparrison I'm sorry to break it to you but they (DA2) only sold around 45k in week one on PC (not including digital sales). TW2 digital sales are expected to double the initial figure of 212k for first week when take into account steam, gog and d2d. So your looking at around 400-500k week one sales on ONE platform (PC). ME2 on PC week one sales was only 146k ish (not including digital sales) so again it's more successfull on the platform it was released on than both of Biowares titles. According to the ratings bearuax CDPR have applied and got registered the ability to release on consoles for TW2 now aswell and CDPR has shown intent towards that action. Given how successfull it appears to be on PC when compare against Biowares titles first week sales then if continue that on consoles it will dwarf Biowares recent projects. Though I will admit noone knows what console fans would make of it when released if released on them, but looks like it will head that way and everyone I know wants it even those without PCs in fact want it big time on their consoles.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 28 mai 2011 - 06:18 .


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My heartfelt congratulations to CDP then. /bow

@archaven: Don't fret. Statistics itself is the biggest troll EVAR.

Modifié par nbamaniac, 28 mai 2011 - 06:16 .