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[Costin_Razvan]

Raping Ves, while despicable ( and mind you Geralt says Ves lied so just bear that in mind ) does not mean **** 

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 28 mai 2011 - 10:35 .

[DragonRageGT]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Raping Ves, while despicable ( and mind you Geralt says Ves lied so just bear that in mind ) does not mean ****

huh.. please clarify this to me? When Geralt says it? Henselt himself said he did it. The flashback cutscene said he did it.

[Costin_Razvan]

You know what. I am not going to bother.

If you honestly think a single woman getting raped is worth the north getting plowed by Nilfgaard ( and at the very least Kaedwen suffering a civil war ), then you are a moron.

This whole concept of justice no matter the price is idiotic beyond measure.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 28 mai 2011 - 10:37 .

[DragonRageGT]

orbit991 wrote...

shnizzler93 wrote...

So, for those of you who have the reviews, what are the main reasons the reviewers are marking the game down? Bugs, gameplay, etc...? If it's just bugs, my plan of just waiting will work out fine, and I don't really care since those can be ironed out.

Most get frustrated that it's to hard and that essentially the game doesnt hold your hand. I did get my butt kicked in the begining, but I was charging into 3 enemies expecting a hollywood movie, you know you fight one guy while the two others just stand around till you kill him. Here the other two guys go behind you and hit you for 200% damage. So the best early strategy is to use the shield spell and hit and run, dive to the sides etc, on my second play what seemed hard was downright easy, and actually you do become a bit to strong by chapter 2.

Some quests dont have a marker so you can actually think and figure things out, for me at least I prefer that over big gold arrows over peoples heads, most quests do have a marker on the minimap though.

In the end I think it's console reviewers that have the hardest time as they are used to just button mashing through 5 foes. There are legit problems, inventory sucks imo, cant auto sort items properly, as does the fact that when you make potions the game insists on auto placing most rare ingredients into the slots first, you have to manually put the right ingridients in.
One of the sidequests was bugged for me as well, it was called the little sisters, think I did something out of order but it should have worked. Also there is a bit of a problem with controls, I think it's due to the game waiting to finish an animation and sometimes you cant make the next move before it finishes(I just spam the right button though and it does it as quick as possible), but overall I do lke the combat quite a bit, onece you are strong it's a very gratifying slaughter. Other then that I have not run into any other noticable bugs.

Yeah but there are FOUR "mixed" reviews against 35 positive and ZERO negative on Metacritics. Plus, CDPR listed the reviews scores on TW2 website without even hidding the lower scores, as some companies do!

And there are way more than thirty five 9.0's and in that list! Really, that escapist guy screwed it up. He admitt he 's a bad player and compared TW2 to "GOTHIC" ???? Yeah... one of the best RPG games ever with a combat that either you learn, master and adore or hate but still, one of the best combat system too and, surprise, surprise, we cannot drink healing potions in G1 and G2 during combat! (G2 only if we change the .ini file. Default is NO)

[KnightofPhoenix]

RageGT wrote...
He RAPED Ves! No excuse for a sadistic mad king. He's gotta die! Geralt was made a Knight by a Godess. What fraking kind of a Knight would he be if he let that megalomanic sob get away with it?

While his rape was despicable, it has little to no bearing to his effectiveness as king, at least considering how critical the situation is. It's something I'm willign to turn a blind eye to considering that there are larger things at stake, including thousands of lives and many other women that could be raped. Put even simpler, your enemies want Henselt dead. Killing Henselt fullfills their goals. That alone makes it illogical to me.

And I don't really care about what the lady knighted Geralt with, all I cared about was the sword. My Geralt didn't care that much either.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 28 mai 2011 - 10:48 .

[DragonRageGT]

YohkoOhno wrote...

They work out differently, but in the end, a lot of them are window dressing, IMO. I'm just saying there's a lot of hype about 16 different endings, but they more or less end the same with maybe about 4 critical choices--Did you Kill the Kingslayer, Did Saskia get freed from the curse, Did you go with Ivoreth or Roche, Which Sovereign did you choose, and perhaps a few others. Other choices more or less only affect their acts.

And since I won't replay, I did read the Game Guide PDF that they released with the game, so I know all the permutations and possibilities.

Put it this way. I give Dragon Age 2 a B-. I give The Witcher 2 a B+, but I give Dragon Age: Origins an A. I think the adventure I had with the Warden had more choice than Geralt's latest adventure. Your mileage may vary.

My personal opinion but you can't really judge it if you don't start from scratch, erase previous playthroughs from your mind and immerse into it again. It worked pretty well for me with Origins. All my over 20 runs I could find new things to admire in the game. Playing a game like Origins or TW1 and TW2 just once really doesn't give you the best you can get, even if you load a key save and go a different path.

[orbit991]

YohkoOhno wrote...

They work out differently, but in the end, a lot of them are window dressing, IMO. I'm just saying there's a lot of hype about 16 different endings, but they more or less end the same with maybe about 4 critical choices--Did you Kill the Kingslayer, Did Saskia get freed from the curse, Did you go with Ivoreth or Roche, Which Sovereign did you choose, and perhaps a few others. Other choices more or less only affect their acts.

And since I won't replay, I did read the Game Guide PDF that they released with the game, so I know all the permutations and possibilities.

Put it this way. I give Dragon Age 2 a B-. I give The Witcher 2 a B+, but I give Dragon Age: Origins an A. I think the adventure I had with the Warden had more choice than Geralt's latest adventure. Your mileage may vary.

Loved DAO myself, the whole thing with the Landsmeet was excellent especially that you could go to prison which changed the game play and Anoras oppinion, then there is the thing with Kings in orzimar. But this is exactly the same with TW2, things play out differently. In the end it's a subjective thing what game ones prefer between these two. Hard call for me, I prefer the W2 maturity and dark gritty world without the good/evil thing being so prominent, just a bunch of flawed real people. But DAO was special somehow and going to play it again. DA2 though, there were no game changing moments, it was as linear as it can be. Seriously I killed templars all over the place yet they come for my sister, who I protcted for decades and I just get to stand there with uhhh ok go ahead take her it's cool now. Anyway thats just my take.

[orbit991]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

You know what. I am not going to bother.

If you honestly think a single woman getting raped is worth the north getting plowed by Nilfgaard ( and at the very least Kaedwen suffering a civil war ), then you are a moron.

This whole concept of justice no matter the price is idiotic beyond measure.

You know what for me it wasnt so much about the rape(though a part), but the hanging of my comrades at arms. If he killed Zoltan or Triss it would have been the same, so it meant a lot for Roche. I say, plow the scumbag King.

[Seitur]

shnizzler93 wrote...

So, for those of you who have the reviews, what are the main reasons the reviewers are marking the game down? Bugs, gameplay, etc...? If it's just bugs, my plan of just waiting will work out fine, and I don't really care since those can be ironed out.

Well most reviews don't mark game down. Most scores are very high. Actually frequently much higher than f.e.DA2
take a look here:
http://www.metacriti...assins-of-kings


In Withcer you have to think alot uring fight and during game/dialogues. It is not as forgiving as many modern titles.
It is a feature!!!

Also in order to see all game contnent you need several playthrughs because on your choices you won't see some locations / people / quests / etc. Choices have consequences. It is a great FEATURE as well

[DragonRageGT]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

And I don't really care about what the lady knighted Geralt with, all I cared about was the sword. My Geralt didn't care that much either.

Did you ploughed her? The Goddess, I mean?

P.S.:  in the run I let Helsent die I could also not lie, as it was a vow taken when I was knighted (I = Geralt). It doesn't mean that in new runs through the game I'll make the same choices. I surely can and will alter the personality of my Geralt for next runs! (like I did in TW1 too). So, both you guys, don't take me that seriously. I was just kinda "in-character" as per my current Geralt's personality.

Behlen killed his brothers and my Cousland still make him King. Of course my Dwarven Noble cut his head!

[DragonRageGT]

orbit991 wrote...
You know what for me it wasnt so much about the rape(though a part), but the hanging of my comrades at arms. If he killed Zoltan or Triss it would have been the same, so it meant a lot for Roche. I say, plow the scumbag King.

Well, and that too!

[KnightofPhoenix]

YohkoOhno wrote...

They work out differently, but in the end, a lot of them are window dressing, IMO. I'm just saying there's a lot of hype about 16 different endings, but they more or less end the same with maybe about 4 critical choices--Did you Kill the Kingslayer, Did Saskia get freed from the curse, Did you go with Ivoreth or Roche, Which Sovereign did you choose, and perhaps a few others. Other choices more or less only affect their acts.

Plus the fate of Temeria, Kaedwen and Aedirn.
Four critical choices were more than what we got in Origins. Really, there were two. Who you choose as monarch in the Landsmeet (and chances are it won't really matter). And the DR, and Witch Hunt showed us that it doesn't really matter either.

Not saying that Origins did not have a lot of variations and I love the game for it. But I do think that The Witcher 2 had more variations (especially politics wise), especially ones that I think are going to be immediately relevent for the sequel. As for critical choices, I felt there were more in TW2 as explained above. Furthermore, TW2 had the almost game changing choices of Act 1. At least, they were chocies that changed your perspective quite drastically.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 28 mai 2011 - 10:56 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

RageGT wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

And I don't really care about what the lady knighted Geralt with, all I cared about was the sword. My Geralt didn't care that much either.

Did you ploughed her? The Goddess, I mean?

I did. Which is why Geralt is not going to take her as a goddess seriously

P.S.:  in the run I let Helsent die I could also not lie, as it was a vow taken when I was knighted (I = Geralt). It doesn't mean that in new runs through the game I'll make the same choices. I surely can and will alter the personality of my Geralt for next runs! (like I did in TW1 too). So, both you guys, don't take me that seriously. I was just kinda "in-character" as per my current Geralt's personality.

I actually like how you incorperated being a knight of the Lady from TW1! Very creative, I had forgotten. So kudos to you. I might have to steal that rationale for my 2nd playthrough.

Behlen killed his brothers and my Cousland still make him King. Of course my Dwarven Noble cut his head!

My Dwarven Noble was even more determined to make Bhelen king.

[Costin_Razvan]

in the run I let Helsent die I could also not lie, as it was a vow taken when I was knighted

I took the never lie part as a piece of BS ( I never sold Aerondight though, NEVER will...it just means too much for me ), but the safeguard the helpless part...well I viewed keeping Henselt alive as important for preserving stability ( and thus lives ) in Kaedwen.

[Monica83]

i play in from my second time i choice roche this time and i must say its complete different..so yes its completely false

[Nigawatts]

YohkoOhno wrote...

They work out differently, but in the end, a lot of them are window dressing, IMO. I'm just saying there's a lot of hype about 16 different endings, but they more or less end the same with maybe about 4 critical choices--Did you Kill the Kingslayer, Did Saskia get freed from the curse, Did you go with Ivoreth or Roche, Which Sovereign did you choose, and perhaps a few others. Other choices more or less only affect their acts.

And since I won't replay, I did read the Game Guide PDF that they released with the game, so I know all the permutations and possibilities.

Put it this way. I give Dragon Age 2 a B-. I give The Witcher 2 a B+, but I give Dragon Age: Origins an A. I think the adventure I had with the Warden had more choice than Geralt's latest adventure. Your mileage may vary.

Yeah too bad DA2 negates half your choices anyways.

[Persephone]

gastovski wrote...

nerdage wrote...

Review I'm going on.

Think I'll be picking this game up after my current DAO playthrough (or my next DA2 playthrough, DLC news dependant). Is there anybody here who didn't think the first game had much replay value who thinks the second one has more? I liked the first one while it lasted but my second playthrough petered out in the outskirts of Vizima and I haven't really wanted to pick it up since. Not really a deal-breaker either way, I'll still be buying it, just curious.

you will hate this game if you liked da2

That so? I love both of these games to death. :innocent:

[Persephone]

gastovski wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

RageGT wrote...

And some people are just too biased. If TW2 had a Bioware logo on the box it would be GOD. But it would also have EA logo so it would be EVIL!  Gladly, CDPR are neither!

Give me a ****ing break.  Like the game- fine.  But it's pretty ironic that you accuse people of fanboyism when you're one of the most obnoxious cheerleaders on BSN for why it's impossible to criticize TW2.  I've defended TW1 here, and criticize DA2 heavily.  Can you just accept some people don't like the game?  I know it blows your circuits, but just try.  It could be a fun mental experiment.

Spoken like a true Biodrone

Addai is a lot of wonderful things. But she is NOT a "Biodrone". GRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, I despise that word so bloody much!

[_Aine_]

People use the term Biodrone when they can't reconcile the fact that people can like something but also disagree with certain things. White/Black and difficulty with grey. OR alternately, can't respect people with different preferences or opinions than you.

My friends list has people I agree with and sometimes have differing opinions than. The reason I love those people on my list isn't in sharing the same opinions and therefore being validated, but because those sharings or differences makes me view my own preferences differently. Biodrone, and words like it, give labels to the person USING them, not the target.

Modifié par shantisands, 29 mai 2011 - 01:01 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Persephone wrote...

Addai is a lot of wonderful things. But she is NOT a "Biodrone". GRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, I despise that word so bloody much!

We butted heads several times, and without a doubt I say she is.

Well said Shant!

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 29 mai 2011 - 01:04 .

[Persephone]

I have a question.........

SPOILER....re: Ves














You've been warned. On the Roche part, after Ves tells her story about being raped by a certain king.....Geralt tells Roche that she lied.

I am at a loss...(I was playing for 40 hours straight & may have missed something) What did she lie about, exactly?

[Chromie]

YohkoOhno wrote...

And since I won't replay, I did read the Game Guide PDF that they released with the game, so I know all the permutations and possibilities.

Shouldn't you be breaking a band up?

[orbit991]

Persephone wrote...

I have a question.........

SPOILER....re: Ves














You've been warned. On the Roche part, after Ves tells her story about being raped by a certain king.....Geralt tells Roche that she lied.

I am at a loss...(I was playing for 40 hours straight & may have missed something) What did she lie about, exactly?

He was not convinced that she would have been left alive, so he suspects something is up with her story.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Persephone wrote...
You've been warned. On the Roche part, after Ves tells her story about being raped by a certain king.....Geralt tells Roche that she lied.

I am at a loss...(I was playing for 40 hours straight & may have missed something) What did she lie about, exactly?

Yea I don't know. The plot just gets dropped. Or is being saved for a DLC or expansion. But yea, we don't see Ves again (even though she's supposed to be on the ship), that was dissapointing.

I theorized that she was the one who turned the Blue Stripes in (perhaps she is a Nilfgaardian agent). That or she really did enjoy sex with Henselt like he claimed.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 29 mai 2011 - 01:43 .

[_Aine_]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

I theorized that she was the one who turned the Blue Stripes in (perhaps she is a Nilfgaardian agent). That or she really did enjoy sex with Henselt like he claimed.

Well, she liked order, and he did like taking command.  I'm just here pointing out the obvious  

...and I am mostly joking.  I'm just saying if it wasn't a mistake.... (which it could have been) it seems MANY of the more lead characters have their secrets....

Modifié par shantisands, 29 mai 2011 - 01:50 .