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[Nerevar-as]

It´s an artifial hand, not even magicpunk one. About Rayla´s presence in the game, is it a retcon, or was she rescued in the books?

[Dreadstruck]

Nerevar-as wrote...

It´s an artifial hand, not even magicpunk one. About Rayla´s presence in the game, is it a retcon, or was she rescued in the books?

Well, she was tortured and probably even raped by the elves.
But she survives and shows up at the end of the series, described as horribly disfigured and with a hook instead of a left hand(and still pursuing and killing any elves), so yeah I guess only the appearance is a major retcon.

Who would want to do a pirate anyway.

Modifié par Avalla'ch, 17 avril 2011 - 09:51 .

[Damariel]

Avalla'ch wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...

It´s an artifial hand, not even magicpunk one. About Rayla´s presence in the game, is it a retcon, or was she rescued in the books?

Well, she was tortured and probably even raped by the elves.
But she survives and shows up at the end of the series, described as horribly disfigured and with a hook instead of a left hand(and still pursuing and killing any elves), so yeah I guess only the appearance is a major retcon.

Who would want to do a pirate anyway.

 I want  I always want to play Sid's Meier's Pirates  ... but I never had a chance

[Nerevar-as]

Pirates will be prominent in Risen 2...

[slimgrin]

I'll be sticking with a side, the books be damned. I just can't sit on the sidelines.

Modifié par slimgrin, 17 avril 2011 - 10:20 .

[Damariel]

Nerevar-as wrote...

Pirates will be prominent in Risen 2...

you mean Gothic 5 

EDIT: yes Avalla'ch you can get all starting dlc's when you register your copy of W2. Gop says that on conference

Modifié par Damariel, 17 avril 2011 - 10:41 .

[naughty99]

slimgrin wrote...

TW2GERALT wrote...

http://images.euroga....jmy_38.jpg.jpg

This would be a spoiler. View at your discretion.

Wow that is the best spoiler I've seen for any game

[jaikss]

Neutral all the way for my Geralt.At first I was leaning more towards Scoiatel,but really after a point into the game it just seemed apparent that the goal for freedom had turned into hunt for blood (like feeding women and children to ghouls,yeah thats really productive ) and by chapter V the only difference between the two sides seemed to be the non in "Kill the (non)humans!".

Tirigon wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

We don't know what Triss is doing with Geralt yet. At any rate, she was the logical choice in TW1 for Alvin. Shani's just a doctor. Triss shoots lightning from her finger tips and kicks bad guys in the nuts.

Neutral options always seemed like copping out to me. I chose the Scoiatel more often than not, but its almost impossible to say which is the true moral option.

One side plans genocide of holocaustic measure. The other fights for freedom. I don´t see how this choice can be hard......

The proud freedom fighters torturing human farmers for ****z n giggles might have something to do with it.

[Chromie]

Tirigon wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

We don't know what Triss is doing with Geralt yet. At any rate, she was the logical choice in TW1 for Alvin. Shani's just a doctor. Triss shoots lightning from her finger tips and kicks bad guys in the nuts.

Neutral options always seemed like copping out to me. I chose the Scoiatel more often than not, but its almost impossible to say which is the true moral option.

One side plans genocide of holocaustic measure. The other fights for freedom. I don´t see how this choice can be hard......

It's the witcher the choices aren't that simple. In this case the nonhumans fighting for freedom when asking Moreen the dryad in the swamps in Act 3 she says "they have forgotten their purpose and seek only bloodshed they are children with toys"

Which is kinda true until Geralt starts helping.

[Chromie]

Saw this on Witcher 2 forums and I was like wow nice!

Only rain and storms no other weather but the lead gameplay designer said "No snow, indeed. But rain will affect gameplay mechanics. Increased damage from lighting spells for instance. Mages can make use of that "

Also for the people looking for saves go here Witcher save game market lots of people email there saves. It's awesome. And it's not really a market just a name.

Modifié par Ringo12, 18 avril 2011 - 04:34 .

[Nerevar-as]

Ringo12 wrote...

Saw this on Witcher 2 forums and I was like wow nice!

Only rain and storms no other weather but the lead gameplay designer said "No snow, indeed. But rain will affect gameplay mechanics. Increased damage from lighting spells for instance. Mages can make use of that "

Also for the people looking for saves go here Witcher save game market lots of people email there saves. It's awesome. And it's not really a market just a name.

Thank you. I lost my savegames and for some reason TW1 won´t start on my computer.

[Tirigon]

slimgrin wrote...

**spoilers**

So you forgot the threat of child murder by the Scoiatel? Their complete disregard for human life? The way Yeavin skulks about in the shadows to assisinate a proud warrior like White Rayla, who was only a hired mercernary in the first place? And who was ruthlessly tortured by the Elves, having her hand cut off by them?

Seigfreid is a damn boyscout compared to the Scoiatel. An ignorant one, but still... 

Freedom requires sacrifices, sometimes. Imo the ScoiaTael behaved very civil, considering they were unable to wage open war and thus had to resort to guerilla tactics and terrorism. They could have done much worse.

And yes, I *did* forget about them threathening to kill children, and I still do. If it is in the books - I haven´t read any, sadly, if it´s in the game, where exactly? I´d like to see for myself.

[Dreadstruck]

Scoia'Tael aren't very honorable or civilized as you may think Tirigon.


They kill random humans on the road.

They hang their captives on the trees and use them as a target practice.

They tortured Rayla, who was trying to save the refugees she was escorting along with her mercenary band.

During the battle of Brenna, they stormed into the medical tents and started killing all the injured and unarmed
people.

Isengrim "The Iron Wolf" Faoiltiarna and his deathsquad "Vrihedd". That guy uses such methods like pouring syrup all over you and cramming your head into the ant nest afterwards.
(And their symbol resembles the SS. Coincidence? I think not, dear Mr. Sapkowski.)

Also, one of them willingly destroyed Jaskier/Dandelion's lute! Monstah!

Modifié par Avalla'ch, 18 avril 2011 - 02:38 .

[Tirigon]

Avalla'ch wrote...

Scoia'Tael aren't very honorable or civilized as you may think Tirigon.


They kill random humans on the road.

They hang their captives on the trees and use them as a target practice.

They tortured Rayla, who was trying to save the refugees she was escorting along with her mercenary band.

During the battle of Brenna, they stormed into the medical tents and started killing all the injured and unarmed
people.

Isengrim "The Iron Wolf" Faoiltiarna and his deathsquad "Vrihedd". That guy uses such methods like pouring syrup all over you and cramming your head into the ant nest afterwards.
(And their symbol resembles the SS. Coincidence? I think not, dear Mr. Sapkowski.)

Also, one of them willingly destroyed Jaskier/Dandelion's lute! Monstah!

So they do all that.

So what? The humans are trying to wipe out their entire race. They only kill some to make a point.

i agree that this is stupid, but it is still not nearly as bad as what the Order does. Also, unlike the Order, they can be shown the errors of their ways.

As Geralt himself puts it at some time: I agree with your goals. I don´t necessarily agree with your methods, though.

[Damariel]

yes they definitely not civilized organization. But on the other hand humans (as it was expected) kill everyone who don't look like human.( Not all humans but many of them ).

So this is why I go with neutral side ... I just chose lesser evil. If they want so be it ...kill each other, world will not miss you you little fanatics.

EDIT: freedom don't justify mass murder

Modifié par Damariel, 18 avril 2011 - 02:55 .

[Dreadstruck]

Tirigon wrote...

So they do all that.

So what? The humans are trying to wipe out their entire race. They only kill some to make a point.

So we justify their murdering acts by pointing... on another murderers? Does that make their guilt more acceptable?
Sounds like the usual arguments with nutzis and communists.

"Nutzis killed millions of people"
"So what, commies killed MUCH more!"

So this is why I go with neutral side ... I just chose lesser evil. If
they want so be it ...kill each other, world will not miss you you
little fanatics.

Same here, I always tend to go the neutral way too. Like I said, let 'em bleed each other dry.

Modifié par Avalla'ch, 18 avril 2011 - 03:02 .

[Nerevar-as]

Avalla'ch wrote...

Scoia'Tael aren't very honorable or civilized as you may think Tirigon.


They kill random humans on the road.

They hang their captives on the trees and use them as a target practice.

They tortured Rayla, who was trying to save the refugees she was escorting along with her mercenary band.

During the battle of Brenna, they stormed into the medical tents and started killing all the injured and unarmed
people.

Isengrim "The Iron Wolf" Faoiltiarna and his deathsquad "Vrihedd". That guy uses such methods like pouring syrup all over you and cramming your head into the ant nest afterwards.
(And their symbol resembles the SS. Coincidence? I think not, dear Mr. Sapkowski.)

Also, one of them willingly destroyed Jaskier/Dandelion's lute! Monstah!

Rayla was karma paying a visit.

I wonder if they are still working for Nilfgaard as in the later books or they are on their own.

[Damariel]

tw2.thewitcher.com/images/newsletter/TW2_FAQ_April2011.pdf

[ErichHartmann]

Events and decisions from imported saves may be reflected later on, but only in ways that can happen anyway.

Hmm.....guess will have to wait for release to find out how big of a "bonus" importing saves really are. 

Modifié par ErichHartmann, 18 avril 2011 - 05:27 .

[Tirigon]

ErichHartmann wrote...

Events and decisions from imported saves may be reflected later on, but only in ways that can happen anyway.

Hmm.....guess will have to wait for release to find out how big of a "bonus" importing saves really are. 

I wish they wouldn´t even try, to be honest.

Actually reflecting your decisions in TW1 is the one thing I do not trust CD Project Red to accomplish.

[Damariel]

show some faith ... only a little please ... thank you

[Chromie]

ErichHartmann wrote...

Events and decisions from imported saves may be reflected later on, but only in ways that can happen anyway.

Hmm.....guess will have to wait for release to find out how big of a "bonus" importing saves really are. 

Same thing in the first one. That's what gives it a higer replay value then let's say Dragon Age where consequences are usually immediate.

[fchopin]

Damariel wrote...

EDIT: freedom don't justify mass murder

+1

[FlintlockJazz]

Damariel wrote...

EDIT: freedom don't justify mass murder

That's debateable.  Some people think it is, others don't, it's the case of how much you value it.  Take a look at the Haitian slave revolt, mass murder resulted there and yet they achieved their freedom and considered it worth it.  It's all relative.

And that's the good thing about the three choices in TW1: all three options have valid reasons to pursue them, and there is no bad choice, just what you believe in.  The neutral path avoids the issue, but is it really the best option?  It results in the status quo being restored, for good or ill.

[Damariel]

I not say that is best option but it's one that I would chose in this type of situation. And this is what CDP want to give us ... think what you would do with that problem. I think that noone has the right to kill anyone just because someone else of victim kind do something bad for us. That's why I'm neutral with W1 problems. If Scoia'Tael and Order want kill each other so be it, but don't try involve me to this.

We can discuss if I'm right or someone else is right but true is that we all are right in some way. I pick neutral path and I not regret this.

Modifié par Damariel, 18 avril 2011 - 06:45 .