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[Monica83]

Letho is a nice character.. is a murdered but him have deep motivation..anyways i killed him

[slimgrin]

I think I can barely make the justification that an assassin is a tool and it's the user who bears moral responsibility. However, letting Letho live makes no sense whatsoever. You've been pursuing him the whole game, you are fully aware of the discord he caused, you know what he's capable of. He's gotta go imo.

Modifié par slimgrin, 15 juin 2011 - 12:27 .

[Zcorck]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Anathemic wrote...
Simply because of witcher's pride. Witchers are not hired thugs. I killed Letho because essentially he player the role of the hired thug to the emporer of Nilfgaard.

While it is a valid reasn, I also feel it's hypocritical. Geralt essentially started off in TW2 as an overglorified bodyguard to a king who is known to be ruthless and pitiless. And participated in a war that is useless to him (othe than money), while Letho is doing all this for the Witchers.

Well Witchers are pretty much mercenaries, they just don't tend to get involved in worldly matters.
I suppose it is kinda justified in either cases though.
Yennefer was pretty much the reason Letho, Serrit & Auckes got caught by the Black Ones was she not?
Anyway, Letho does mention that witchers are banned from entering most cities in the south, and that the White Flame Dancing on the Barrows of his Enemies had promised to restore the Viper school.
Even if the White Flame Dancing on the Barrows of his Enemies was lying, I still think it's a goal worth pursuing.
I mean, what good is it to follow the Path if none will be left to follow it eh?
Still I think that the Emperor of the Black Ones would've benefited from restoring the Vipers, with it he'd most likely have Letho's unquestionable loyalty(if he hasn't gotten it already) to influence the other Vipers in case Nilfgaard would ever need them considering how powerful they are.
Having them could also be used to keep Ciri close by I suppose, were she to finish her training or something.


Geralt was being quite well-paid by Foltest, although he did have intentions of leaving, and after that he pretty much does have to clear his name so the monarchs can go after the real guilty party, and of course not to be hunted down like a dog. Working for Foltest was pretty much stretching the witcher's code though, but good-will from a monarch towards the witchers is always a good thing, although I doubt that had anything to do with Geralt working for him.

[Anathemic]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

The ends justify the means, no matter how wicked. Saying otherwise is an idealistic belief that will get you nowhere. ( just putting it out there ).

Letho was doing what he did for the Witchers, and I respect that. As for the Witcher reputation...do I need to remind you who asked for 10.000 Orens as payment for killing Jaques in The Witcher 1? "Chuckle" There is no Witcher code or anything, no rule book but each Witcher is free to choose his or her own path and Letho choose to kill a few kings to benefit the order.

Besides most nobles/monarchs look at Witchers as hired thugs, expensive ones but damned effective. This is in the novels.

In the North Letho may be remembered as a Kingslayer for good while the in Empire ( if it wins ) he would be remembered as a hero who delivered the a few strong provinces to the Empire.

Killing him however is a reasonable outcome. I personally did not care to for various reasons but I can't disagree with someone who did ( well unless that person's reason is that Letho is evil BS ).

 Letho is one hell of a character that I really didn't want to kill though and it's nice to see a smart, ambitious and reasonable villain after so many stupid bad guys.

Oh God, yes this!

Hmm from what I recall from Witcher 1, Geralt was already going after Jacque (considering he said "I'm coming after you" after dealing with the Salamandra leaders, and this was before Foltest's offer), Foltest just said "Hey look I'll give you 10,000 orens for this job" in which Geralt replied "Sir I'm not a hired thu- ... 10,000 orens you say?" Hey he was already gonna hunt Jacque down, Foltest's offer was just a side benefit.

You're true, there is no true witcher's code, but there is the unspoken decree that all witchers (judging from the books and game) follow, which is to hunt monsters to protect humans and not get involved in worldly affairs.

Throughout the prologue in Witcher 2, Geralt was always trying to leave and quit Foltest's siege of the La Valette's, right up until the end where Foltest died.

But yeah, Letho is an interesting and well-thought out villain. It took me a little while to finally make up my descision to kill him off.

[Costin_Razvan]

No, Foltest said you are going to kill the Grand Master then Geralt said the price for that, Foltest did not name one.

Just so we are clear on that.

You're true, there is no true witcher's code, but there is the unspoken decree that all witchers (judging from the books and game) follow, which is to hunt monsters to protect humans and not get involved in worldly affairs

Is there? Because Geralt most surely got involved in politics up to his neck in the novels and the first game. The Witcher Coen also fought at Brenna on the side of the North so that argument doesn't hold up.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 15 juin 2011 - 01:35 .

[slimgrin]

Anyone know when the next patch is due? I really hope they fix door targeting, cursor movement, aspect ration and such.

[Boiny Bunny]

I hope they add a storage chest into each Act in the next patch!

[slimgrin]

There's a weightless mod Bunny, you can always use that.

People over at Gog have been saying that the reason the mouse drags so terribly in menus is because the game implements software overlay support, a sign of a console port. I can't verify this; I can however say that the mouse lag is enough to make me want to tear my hair out, even after the ini fix. I've never encountered this in a game before. I'm tempted to just hang it up for a while and hope they fix some of these things.

[Anathemic]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

No, Foltest said you are going to kill the Grand Master then Geralt said the price for that, Foltest did not name one.

Just so we are clear on that.

You're true, there is no true witcher's code, but there is the unspoken decree that all witchers (judging from the books and game) follow, which is to hunt monsters to protect humans and not get involved in worldly affairs

Is there? Because Geralt most surely got involved in politics up to his neck in the novels and the first game. The Witcher Coen also fought at Brenna on the side of the North so that argument doesn't hold up.

There are exceptions, I'm talking about a generality. Take for instance the one scene in the book with Triss at Kaer Morhen explaining the political turmoil at the current moment depicted. The witchers there simply don't care or are confused on why things are happening the way they are. Sure they may get involved in politics but generally they tend to stay away from it.

[Milana_Saros]

RageGT wrote...

Even the bugs in this game are awesome!!! And this proves Roche is a real badazz!!!

I laughed out loud when Roche was giving the evil glare at the background. He is so awesome.

Almost finished my 2nd 9GB patch download *sigh*

After this I will simply keep Steam in offline-mode and hope my fiancé doesn't log in to his account and screw everything up. I'm kinda glad that I didn't make my own Steam account.

[Chromie]

Milana_Saros wrote...

RageGT wrote...

Even the bugs in this game are awesome!!! And this proves Roche is a real badazz!!!

I laughed out loud when Roche was giving the evil glare at the background. He is so awesome.

Almost finished my 2nd 9GB patch download *sigh*

After this I will simply keep Steam in offline-mode and hope my fiancé doesn't log in to his account and screw everything up. I'm kinda glad that I didn't make my own Steam account.

Just turn off auto-updates

[Milana_Saros]

Ringo12 wrote...

Just turn off auto-updates

Doesn't do ****. Honestly, it doesn't. It's retarded. Playing in offline mode is the only way to prevent this.

[Krusty84]

BARTEK GAWEL lead concept artist at CD Projekt RED

[fchopin]

The Witcher 2 on Xbox 360 received enthusiastically at E3

http://www.en.thewit...ity/entry/57/ 

Modifié par fchopin, 15 juin 2011 - 11:31 .

[Bejos_]

fchopin wrote...

The Witcher 2 on Xbox 360 received enthusiastically at E3

http://www.en.thewit...ity/entry/57/ 

The enthusiasts' calibre is questionable IGN? The Escapist? (Who gave them a 7/10, I remind you. Nice to see them crawling on their stomachs. I kid; it actually leaves a bit of a funky taste in my mouth.) The official XBox magazine?

It's good that CDPR are getting the press, though. And IGN does actually seem genuinely enthusiastic about the title.

[Archaven]

I reading that they are being selected as Oscar nominee? Wow..

[Archaven]

slimgrin wrote...

There's a weightless mod Bunny, you can always use that.

People over at Gog have been saying that the reason the mouse drags so terribly in menus is because the game implements software overlay support, a sign of a console port. I can't verify this; I can however say that the mouse lag is enough to make me want to tear my hair out, even after the ini fix. I've never encountered this in a game before. I'm tempted to just hang it up for a while and hope they fix some of these things.

I don't want a weightless mod. Seems like cheating to me. I wanted a chest so i can store the armor, swords, etc that i wanted to collect

[slimgrin]

Krusty84 wrote...

BARTEK GAWEL lead concept artist at CD Projekt RED

Thanks for the link. This guy is one talented artist.

[DragonRageGT]

Archaven wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

There's a weightless mod Bunny, you can always use that.

People over at Gog have been saying that the reason the mouse drags so terribly in menus is because the game implements software overlay support, a sign of a console port. I can't verify this; I can however say that the mouse lag is enough to make me want to tear my hair out, even after the ini fix. I've never encountered this in a game before. I'm tempted to just hang it up for a while and hope they fix some of these things.

I don't want a weightless mod. Seems like cheating to me. I wanted a chest so i can store the armor, swords, etc that i wanted to collect

It's not really a cheating. You don't gain unfair advantage from it. But it kills an important aspect of the game. I played  with the mod and now I can only play without it. I make much more money without it. I think a lot more about things I really need without it. I craft and brew exactly what I'll need for the next portion of the game instead of having 100 potions at the end of the game that I didn't need and will never use.

I still want an storage chest because I hate being forced to sell items I'd much prefer to keep as souvenirs/trophies of the journey. Like my swords and armors.

[Chromie]

Bejos_ wrote...

fchopin wrote...

The Witcher 2 on Xbox 360 received enthusiastically at E3

http://www.en.thewit...ity/entry/57/ 

The enthusiasts' calibre is questionable IGN? The Escapist? (Who gave them a 7/10, I remind you. Nice to see them crawling on their stomachs. I kid; it actually leaves a bit of a funky taste in my mouth.) The official XBox magazine?

It's good that CDPR are getting the press, though. And IGN does actually seem genuinely enthusiastic about the title.

IGN gave Witcher 2 an 9 though I guess your referring to Escapist.. Though seems they could care less until it's on consoles IGN just loves pushing 360 and Apple products.

Modifié par Ringo12, 15 juin 2011 - 03:39 .

[Romantiq]

Escapist has people with different opinions and some of them are unfortunately ridiculous .

Oh noes ! I said the magic word.

[Anathemic]

At E3, CD Projekt RED presented the 360 version of Witcher 2

http://www.en.thewit...unity/entry/57/

Just if you're interested.

[hangmans tree]

On Letho, Geralt and the kings.
There is a saying you dont say "no" to a king. That is why Geralt in W1 said "sire, I'm not a hir...10 000 gold" - he threw an ureasonable amout of gold coz he knew he wouldnt win the argument with a KING whos been bent on keeping Geralt at his side.
The same goes for Letho. You dont say no to The White Flame and keep your head. But on top of that he manages to swindle a promise of school restoration. He agrees to get his hands dirty, for a distant goal. Point is there is a real goal at the end of the task.

Thus, I saw pointles fighting Letho. Got the trth and explanations from him, what else there is? Geralt could care less about the schemes as long as his deaerest friends are unharmed. "An altruist to the world in the nearest vicinity" - the same as Zoltan Chivay.
I like and always choose a path nearest to the neutral as possible - with exclusion to altruistic sacrefices when considering nearest vicinity.

[Anathemic]

hangmans tree wrote...

On Letho, Geralt and the kings.
There is a saying you dont say "no" to a king. That is why Geralt in W1 said "sire, I'm not a hir...10 000 gold" - he threw an ureasonable amout of gold coz he knew he wouldnt win the argument with a KING whos been bent on keeping Geralt at his side.
The same goes for Letho. You dont say no to The White Flame and keep your head. But on top of that he manages to swindle a promise of school restoration. He agrees to get his hands dirty, for a distant goal. Point is there is a real goal at the end of the task.

Thus, I saw pointles fighting Letho. Got the trth and explanations from him, what else there is? Geralt could care less about the schemes as long as his deaerest friends are unharmed. "An altruist to the world in the nearest vicinity" - the same as Zoltan Chivay.
I like and always choose a path nearest to the neutral as possible - with exclusion to altruistic sacrefices when considering nearest vicinity.

Hmm you bring up an interesting point, didn't think of it that way.

This reminds me of one of the short stories from the Last Wish called "the Question of Price" where Queen Calanthe of Cintra wishes Geralt to use his witcher skills to deal with a political problem concerning destiny.

My third playthrough I might consider sparing Letho.

[KingJason13]

TW2 is still my Fave Game of 2011.