Well, we can add it to the list of things they need to patch. Sounds like the game should be harder later on, but because I started with alchemy on my first run and leveled my Geralt poorly, the game was hard right till the end, even the dragon. That thing killed me time and again.
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#8527
Posté 26 juin 2011 - 08:14
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There are mods to improve the difficulty though until they patch it themselves if they do so.
#8528
Posté 26 juin 2011 - 08:26
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slimgrin wrote...
Well, we can add it to the list of things they need to patch. Sounds like the game should be harder later on, but because I started with alchemy on my first run and leveled my Geralt poorly, the game was hard right till the end, even the dragon. That thing killed me time and again.
I found a pretty easy way to beat the dragon (works on insane), I had the silver sword (with +25% against giant creatures you get from killing the two Arachas when you first start chapter 3) loaded with Ysgith runes, a whetstone and the Rook and Thunderbolt potions active. I stood by pillar next to window where the dragon first breaks into the tower and I just kept strong attacking. I was doing so much damage that it couldn't attack, instead it followed the scripts to break the tower apart. By the time it fled and I got ready for the roof fight it could only take two more hits before the QTEs kicked in.
#8529
Posté 26 juin 2011 - 08:39
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Right now I am re-downloading the game again. This time I can going to help roche escape instead of capturing him. The great thing about this game, it never seems to get boring because every choice even a small minor one has untold impact on the overall storyline of the game.
#8530
Posté 26 juin 2011 - 09:02
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Regarding the poll: I went with Iorveth first since my TW1 playthrough was all-out-Scoi'atel. But Iorveth just rubbed me the wrong way and by the time I sneaked to the Kadweni camp and Roche saved my butt...damn. I'm glad I stopped in the middle of my first playthrough and restarted with Roche. As a temperamental person myself I find his tantrums to be super funny. Altough I don't run around cutting peoples' balls off...damn I wish we could create our protagonist for TW3 and Roche was one of the LI's. Not gonna get into that though, plenty of LI nonsense on this forum.
To make a more valid point about the subject, Roche's path does seem to make "politically" more sense and also seems a bit more fleshed out? Oh and I convinced Roche to stay loayl to Temeria. Having him jump over to Redania seemed to be against everything the man is about...at least in my mind. Didn't pay that much of attention to all the political stuff but he was fond of Foltest and Temeria. At first choosing Redania seemed like the better choice but when the Temerian soldiers attacked us I grinched a little...
Regarding the dragon: I went into the battle pretty much blind. No potions, no bombs, no weapon upgrades (why oh why can'y you chuck potions before the tower top battle?). First two tries I got hammered but then I just started memorizing the drake's movements and it was incredibly easy in the end. Took a while, but I left the battle without a scratch.
One question though: Does not killing the dragon have anything to do with anything? Or is it just about leaving it to suffer?
To make a more valid point about the subject, Roche's path does seem to make "politically" more sense and also seems a bit more fleshed out? Oh and I convinced Roche to stay loayl to Temeria. Having him jump over to Redania seemed to be against everything the man is about...at least in my mind. Didn't pay that much of attention to all the political stuff but he was fond of Foltest and Temeria. At first choosing Redania seemed like the better choice but when the Temerian soldiers attacked us I grinched a little...
Regarding the dragon: I went into the battle pretty much blind. No potions, no bombs, no weapon upgrades (why oh why can'y you chuck potions before the tower top battle?). First two tries I got hammered but then I just started memorizing the drake's movements and it was incredibly easy in the end. Took a while, but I left the battle without a scratch.
One question though: Does not killing the dragon have anything to do with anything? Or is it just about leaving it to suffer?
#8531
Posté 26 juin 2011 - 09:05
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Milana_Saros wrote...
One question though: Does not killing the dragon have anything to do with anything? Or is it just about leaving it to suffer?
Play through Iorveth's path.
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Posté 26 juin 2011 - 09:05
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You would know if you finished Iorveths path :happy:Milana_Saros wrote...
One question though: Does not killing the dragon have anything to do with anything? Or is it just about leaving it to suffer?
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#8533
Posté 26 juin 2011 - 09:07
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Lord Phoebus wrote...
Milana_Saros wrote...
One question though: Does not killing the dragon have anything to do with anything? Or is it just about leaving it to suffer?
Play through Iorveth's path.
Figured as much. My save is on act 3 so might as well give it a spin.
#8534
Posté 26 juin 2011 - 09:08
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Milana_Saros wrote...
One question though: Does not killing the dragon have anything to do with anything? Or is it just about leaving it to suffer?
You should seriously finish your Iorveth playthough. Killing it or not can have major political ramifications. I'm assuming there will be an expansion pack so I hope we don't have to wait for the Witcher 3 to find out how Nilfgaard's invasion goes or how the political situation in the North goes.
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Posté 26 juin 2011 - 09:28
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Milana_Saros wrote...
Lord Phoebus wrote...
Milana_Saros wrote...
One question though: Does not killing the dragon have anything to do with anything? Or is it just about leaving it to suffer?
Play through Iorveth's path.
Figured as much. My save is on act 3 so might as well give it a spin.
Leave the forum now and play the other path. You'll learn that CDPR took a HUGE risk in this regard.
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#8536
Posté 26 juin 2011 - 09:34
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Milana_Saros wrote...
Lord Phoebus wrote...
Milana_Saros wrote...
One question though: Does not killing the dragon have anything to do with anything? Or is it just about leaving it to suffer?
Play through Iorveth's path.
Figured as much. My save is on act 3 so might as well give it a spin.
Heh...after you find out you should post your reaction.
#8537
Posté 26 juin 2011 - 11:25
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Milana_Saros wrote...
One question though: Does not killing the dragon have anything to do with anything? Or is it just about leaving it to suffer?
It's roleplaying apart from the above mentioned.
You don't kill dragons, just as you don't do contracts on men (the one for Dethmold).
#8538
Posté 26 juin 2011 - 11:30
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Witchers by rule do not kill monsters who are sentient unless they are unavoidably dangerous to humans. Dragons are sentient. That's why Witchers do not ordinarily kill Trolls either.
#8539
Posté 26 juin 2011 - 11:39
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Man....just finished my first run. Damn good game and I think, perhaps, cleansed my palate of Dragon Age 2's. So many choices and consequences! I truly love how you rarely know the true motivations of the characters and all the political machinations. Add in the stuff with the Wild Hunt and Nilfgaard...Going to fire up Act 1 and side with Iorveth this time to see Vergen.
Seriously, this game is:
Seriously, this game is:
#8540
Posté 26 juin 2011 - 11:42
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Brockololly wrote...
So many choices and consequences!
You know this game doesn't dally around when the tutorial alone has atleast 4 variations depending on your choices.
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#8541
Posté 26 juin 2011 - 11:45
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Brockololly wrote...
Damn good game and I think, perhaps, cleansed my palate of Dragon Age 2's.
Yep, it helped me get over it.
Seriously. Now that there is another fantasy RPG setting (one that I find superior), especially one that deals with issues that I find interesting in interesting ways (all the political intrigue is just sexy), I do not care about Dragon Age as much as before.
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#8542
Posté 26 juin 2011 - 11:46
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Took your sweet time Brock. 
Honestly, the game can't be fully appreciated till you play it with each faction. A good third of it is different and some serious story content is withheld until the next playthrough. Not many devs would do this.
Honestly, the game can't be fully appreciated till you play it with each faction. A good third of it is different and some serious story content is withheld until the next playthrough. Not many devs would do this.
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#8543
Posté 26 juin 2011 - 11:52
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Took your sweet time Brock.
Honestly, the game can't be fully appreciated till you play it with each faction. A good third of it is different and some serious story content is withheld until the next playthrough. Not many devs would do this.
It was bold and I'd be curious to see stats of how many people played it a second time.
I'd say more than a 1/3rd, if we are talking about Acts. Even Act 3's main quests are different depending on your path and the conference could change a lot. And the end of Act 1 is different. I'd say, it's a little less than 1/2.
I really love the concept. Choices not only change gameplay, provides new insight in characters..etc, but it also provides an almost wholly different perspective, while withholding information that you would normally acquire on the other side. It's brilliant.
#8544
Posté 27 juin 2011 - 12:29
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My Witcher kills monsters whether they are in human form or other species or races, in fact humans are the worst kind of monsters like Loredo with the Elf women & woman even Hensalt and Ves. So I justify my playthroughs and reactions as such. I can't remember anywhere saying being a Witcher means does not kill humans, what I recall is Witcher kills only monsters. Even if in general lore wise Witchers wouldn't normally kill humans who act like monsters, my Witcher version of Geralt had free will and his idiology could differ from the generalisation.
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#8545
Posté 27 juin 2011 - 12:43
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Geralt killed the human rioters in Rivia who wanted to kill nonhuman innocents. So yea, their "code of conduct" is so broad and abstract that it could meant anything. Geralt himself is usually against killing innocents (which imo is the reason why he didn't try to kill Foltest's knights when they captured him in the prologue).
And even when he kills the dragon, he expresses regret and sadness.
And even when he kills the dragon, he expresses regret and sadness.
#8546
Posté 27 juin 2011 - 12:46
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Dragoonlordz wrote...
My Witcher kills monsters whether they are in human form or other species or races, in fact humans are the worst kind of monsters like Loredo with the Elf women & woman even Hensalt and Ves.
What I like about Geralt in Witcher 1 when ever he has to choose between killing people or monsters his journal updated. Like when you chose to help the vampires in Vizima's trade quarter which made you killed the templar knights his journal updates on Geralt's identity. CDProjekt may have used amnesia as a cliche beginning but they used it help us roleplay which was awesome.
#8547
Posté 27 juin 2011 - 12:49
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Geralt apparently also had a friend who was a vampire. So Witchers, or at least Geralt is not with a "kill all monsterz!" mentality.
#8548
Posté 27 juin 2011 - 12:52
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Mine never killed the dragon. 
One thing I hope they do improve is how they handle savegames, currently my saves for TW2 equal around 1.3gb in files. The savegame utility mod really kinda sucked imho, it doesnt give you any information on which to base your deletions or keeps on. Half previews do not show image and even ones that do don't tell you much or even enough to make a decision. It doesnt even really save any time since just as easy to go to folder select and press delete as is to load that program and click each one followed by delete.
One thing I hope they do improve is how they handle savegames, currently my saves for TW2 equal around 1.3gb in files. The savegame utility mod really kinda sucked imho, it doesnt give you any information on which to base your deletions or keeps on. Half previews do not show image and even ones that do don't tell you much or even enough to make a decision. It doesnt even really save any time since just as easy to go to folder select and press delete as is to load that program and click each one followed by delete.
#8549
Posté 27 juin 2011 - 12:58
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KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Geralt apparently also had a friend who was a vampire. So Witchers, or at least Geralt is not with a "kill all monsterz!" mentality.
The vampire who you can help at the brothel is the wife or widow of Geralt's friend actually.
#8550
Posté 27 juin 2011 - 12:58
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And here we come to why I think The Witcher games are less about role playing than they are about morality puzzles. I don't roleplay in The Witcher, I do what I as 'slimgrin' would actually do. It's hard for me to deviate from Yeavin's path, Roches path, to betray White Rayla, Toruviel, etc. I played TW1 three times before I actually began to explore different choices. In ME2 it was easy. I was playing a renegade, a paragon, etc. Doesn't work that way with The Witcher.
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