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#8876
slimgrin

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This won't be a popular opinion, but I rather wished for more 'pointless' fetch quests in TW2. I mean there isn't an ounce of filler in the game which is admirable, but there's nothing wrong with cashing in on some monster trophies that boosts your xp a bit, or perhaps a few more random quests unrelated to the main story. I'm stoked to see what this new DLC is like.

Modifié par slimgrin, 09 juillet 2011 - 05:41 .


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Khayness wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

EDIT: I also noticed that you can't craft Geralt's personality like you can Hawke or Shepard. I'm guessing this is the same in TW2? Geralt does all the talking until a choice arises?


I wish people would just stop with this bull**** and notice the IDENTITY mainquest in the journal.


Naww. Looks like i asked a question that struck a nerve.

Anyway, the game is starting to pick up a bit now. I liked the ending Act 1 decision, wasn't any concrete proof either way. I also like how the game tracked my decision in the prologue, now the Salamndra are all over my ass..

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Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Khayness wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

EDIT: I also noticed that you can't craft Geralt's personality like you can Hawke or Shepard. I'm guessing this is the same in TW2? Geralt does all the talking until a choice arises?


I wish people would just stop with this bull**** and notice the IDENTITY mainquest in the journal.


Naww. Looks like i asked a question that struck a nerve.

Anyway, the game is starting to pick up a bit now. I liked the ending Act 1 decision, wasn't any concrete proof either way. I also like how the game tracked my decision in the prologue, now the Salamndra are all over my ass..

Unfortunately, neither game does allow you create Geralt's personality, it's already established in the books and you can only choose between things the books' Geralt could do.

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dzizass wrote...

Unfortunately, neither game does allow you create Geralt's personality, it's already established in the books and you can only choose between things the books' Geralt could do.


You can play against it (like accepting money for contracts on men, not bothering with lifting curses and go straight for the kill, etc.). The Indentity quest also allows you to shape Geralt's personality by chosing his motives (you can be a sarcastic bastard who feels out of place or a bloodthirsty misanthrope for example).

But I guess it doesn't count as roleplaying, since there aren't any Tone Icons, or they aren't shown in red/blue. :wizard:

Modifié par Khayness, 09 juillet 2011 - 07:13 .


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I'm glad to know that Bioware is not the grand-daddy of all RPGs.. They are probably good back with BG2 when they were teaming with Black Isle.. But even Alpha Protocol, Dungeon Siege 3 seems to do pretty badly.. No idea.. consoles being the reason?

Honestly.. it probably be me only.. which i just find DAO just mediocre title but i have no idea why everyone is yelling DAO is the best RPG.. Hmm

Modifié par Archaven, 09 juillet 2011 - 11:00 .


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*Opinion alert*

Is the Witcher 2 a good game? Yes!
Is the Witcher 2 a Legendary game? Not even close!
Was chapter three and the epilogue both a disgrace to the series and gaming in general? Yes!


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#8882
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Even chapter 3 has replay value way above average.

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I wouldn't go so far to call chp 3 a disgrace to gaming, lol. It felt right in my Roche playthrough as the pace had really picked up at the end of chap 2. In my Iorveth playthrough it did feel lacking and it's hard to put my finger on why. Cyberfrog is right. The game has an enormous amount of content, you just have to replay several times to see it all.

Modifié par slimgrin, 09 juillet 2011 - 12:46 .


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Ulous wrote...

*Opinion alert*
Was chapter three and the epilogue both a disgrace to the series and gaming in general? Yes!

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Ughh...

Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion, but not to his/her own "facts". Chapter III is a drawback and one that does weigh heavily on the game, but disgrace ? If every game out there put at least this much effort in tying up the plot then God damn me, we woudn't have disappointing endings

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Ulous wrote...

*Opinion alert*

Is the Witcher 2 a good game? Yes!
Is the Witcher 2 a Legendary game? Not even close!
Was chapter three and the epilogue both a disgrace to the series and gaming in general? Yes!


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Gladly the 99% of gamers in the planet that played the game disagree with you. And most of serious reviewers too.

1- It is an awesome game, not just good.
2- Even the NYT said it: But every once in a while a game arrives out of the blue that redefines expectations for an entire genre.
3- It sucks to be you! Having the series disgraced by such an awesome closing chapter! My condolences.


@Gibb_Shep - I feel you will end up loving the game by the time you finished it and will replay it some more for higher diff, advanced alchemy, awesome attack combos and different choices. All knowledge that is not easily extracted from just one run.

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@Ulous
It's close to legendary to me. And yes Chapter 3 is way too short. The game levelling system is also quite artificial if you asked me..

There's force levelling when you completed certain main quest. I gained 5 levels out of nowhere after completed some of the main storyline. The game has not sufficient content for proper levelling hence there's artificial levelling.

The story and plotline is pure wicked.

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OK, seriously, where is that woman in Vergen you can practice fist fight on? I would beat her up once just for laughs... This game doesn't have female dwarves, which makes it easier: you obviously can't beat up Saskia & Phillipa, Felicia Cori just sells stuff, there is also that one who sells junk, you know the one who wants to "guess" everything, next there's that elf if you took Iorweth's path and also there is another elf, you can actually talk to her where Iorweth is found (close to the other Vergen exit, the path you take for the catacombs quest...) and she talks about emancipation. So where's that beat up NPC?

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I was wondering where she is too. She's supposedly praying at a shrine. I gotta see this before they patch it out. I lost my second run ( accidentally deleted) so if someone has done this please post it on youtube, lol.

Modifié par slimgrin, 09 juillet 2011 - 02:03 .


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slimgrin wrote...

I was wondering where she is too. She's supposedly praying at a shrine. I gotta see this before they patch it out. I lost my second run ( accidentally deleted) so if someone has done this please post it on youtube, lol.


I've tried to find it now... Entered every single house in Vergen, Where is this shrine? Is it where the council took place with Saskia  and the Prince?

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Anyone found it please share video.. :).. Interested in it too..

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slimgrin

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Sorry, it's a statue not a shrine. I don't remember seeing this. Maybe it's in the human quarter, next to one of those large breasted female statues. 

Modifié par slimgrin, 09 juillet 2011 - 02:33 .


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slimgrin wrote...

This won't be a popular opinion, but I rather wished for more 'pointless' fetch quests in TW2. I mean there isn't an ounce of filler in the game which is admirable, but there's nothing wrong with cashing in on some monster trophies that boosts your xp a bit, or perhaps a few more random quests unrelated to the main story. I'm stoked to see what this new DLC is like.


I pretty much feel the same way.  Even better than DLC would be a giant expansion pack devoted to monster hunts and sidequests (wishful thinking on my part).   

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I kinda think that the DLC is some sort of small puzzle like DLC kind of like figuring out how to open the Operator's door. It won't be a meaty story content DLC though.

Now i hope they can quickly finish the console version, grab some profits and moved on to Witcher 2 expansion or Witcher 3.

Too bad they are not huge.. I'm kinda interested with their new IP too.

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Yeah, a statue, probably that one with huge ....... (you know, wouldn't want EA to ban me for my possibly bad language). That statue is all over the place: in front of blacksmith's house, in that castle of the fathers, in Saskia's house, and in other random houses too. But I never see any woman praying there. Maybe it's a typo, maybe it's some other statue and not actually in Vergen?

Modifié par jabba3004, 09 juillet 2011 - 02:41 .


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Yes, That statue is everywhere... Anyway, I just cheeked something in Iorveth house there is woman called Gittan, She'll say Womans are not respected and that womans can do anything just like men, Anyway... You can give her some advices, And maybe depending on those advices you can eventually fishfight with her? I mean... She's like the only random woman in this entire town you can have a full dialog with... So... It could be her...

Modifié par PsyCoil, 09 juillet 2011 - 03:08 .


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Am I the only one who loves Act 3?

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Am I the only one who loves Act 3?


No. It's full with huge decisions on top of all the previous decisions biting you in the ass.

It feels like a series ending double episode, short, but damn intense.

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@PsyCoil - I meant her when I was saying the elf where Iorweth hangs out, you reminded me of her name. Yes, Gittan has like 4 dialogue variations, which go generally into approving her opinion, she thanks Geralt if that's the case, or if you disapprove she gets angry, but there's no fight option. Also if you just straight away refuse to hear her out, she'll also get angry but still no fight... I've tried out all combinations (simply reload game after one attempt) and no *showdown*.

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Ulous wrote...

*Opinion alert*

Is the Witcher 2 a good game? Yes!
Is the Witcher 2 a Legendary game? Not even close!
Was chapter three and the epilogue both a disgrace to the series and gaming in general? Yes!


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Woah. That's way over the top my friend. In my opinion Assassin's of Kings ended where it had to end. If you look at the narrative, the major plot points on the story were all fulfilled and everything came together. As someone who apreciates stories, I found it beautiful (well, the fights with the dragon and Letho are disappointing). The replayability there is nice too as others have mentioned. What I would want would be more and longer sidequests there. The arm wrestling was too short for example. The gargoyle's one was very nice on the other hand. If it had more interactive NPCs, it would be way better. I was a little disappointed with Loc Muine. I wanted to explore it more and maybe talk to the students and solve some problems with monsters and maybe getting into other issues there or maybe a work for the factions. And that can be solved with DLC.

Modifié par RyuGuitarFreak, 09 juillet 2011 - 03:35 .


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RageGT wrote...

Gladly the 99% of gamers in the planet that played the game disagree with you. And most of serious reviewers too.


Like me you are entitled to your opinion but using a statistic like 99% clearly isn't opinion based, you are stating something based purely on your own annoyance at my opinion, their is no way you can talk on behalf of 99% of gamers who played this game, again ones perception of a serious reviewer is also opinion based, in your case I assume that anyone that said the game was good/average is not a serious reviewer and anyone that says it is legendary is a serious reviewer......... if that is the case then i'm afraid that is not how it works.

RageGT wrote...
1- It is an awesome game, not just good.


Your opinion and I respect that, but I disagree.

RageGT wrote...
2- Even the NYT said it: But every once in a while a game arrives out of the blue that redefines expectations for an entire genre.


I don't really follow NYT reviews to comment if this is good or bad.

RageGT wrote...
3- It sucks to be you! Having the series disgraced by such an awesome closing chapter! My condolences.


Not at all, i'm more than happy being me :P

Again purely my opinion on the way I feel about chapter three and the even more dissapointing epilogue, it's not about it being short, it is about the feeling of almost complete abandonment of the game after chapter 2, couple this with the 1980's style dragon boss fight where it's next move becomes readable by tedious trial and error then it made for quite a dissapointing and uninspiring battle.................. Now don't even get me started on the fight with Letho (if you chose to fight him that is).

But like I have already said I have played through the game a few times now and that is at least some testament to how good the game is, but when replaying I am almost having my fun ruined in anticipation of chapter three, then the extra dissapointment of reaching it.