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[VoiceOfPudding]

blothulfur wrote...

Sorcerer's in the witcher world are not the superstitious wand weavers of other settings, they use their powers to learn more of the world around them and its workings. Personally this is what i'd do in their place so i'm not perturbed by it.

This. From what I gather (from the two games) magic is basically is viewed as just a science or vice versa. Although the Lodge probably wouldn't be taken seriously if it was called the lodge of scientists

Modifié par VoiceOfPudding, 20 juillet 2011 - 12:50 .

[slimgrin]

Sapkowski uses all sorts of modern vernacular and references that can be a little startling to people unfamiliar with the setting. I personally still have a beef with Fisstech being Cocaine.

Modifié par slimgrin, 20 juillet 2011 - 01:00 .

[Costin_Razvan]

I'd like to be able to make at least one MAJOR choice in the Witcher and leave satisfied! As it is, no matter what choice I make I'm not satisfied.

That's sorta the point of it all.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

I'd like to be able to make at least one MAJOR choice in the Witcher and leave satisfied! As it is, no matter what choice I make I'm not satisfied.

That's sorta the point of it all.

Which is why it's awesome, imo.

[slimgrin]

Satisfied? No. With conviction? After multiple playthroughs, yes. That was my experience with TW1, anyway.

That game builds morals, I tell you.

Modifié par slimgrin, 20 juillet 2011 - 03:17 .

[Jacek11]

slimgrin wrote...

Sapkowski uses all sorts of modern vernacular and references that can be a little startling to people unfamiliar with the setting. I personally still have a beef with Fisstech being Cocaine.

I know it bothers some people who think fantasy shoud be true to the middle ages, period. Personally I always liked the modern references and how people, the educated ones at least, seem to share modern and medieval sensibilites. A sorceror might discuss genetics and ponder the moral implications of terrorism, yet the concept of democracy is still something he finds completely ridiculous and hilarious.

[Monica83]

Patch Released!!!!

[Chromie]

Monica83 wrote...

Patch Released!!!!

Just saw it!

Hopefully Steam's update fixed the 9gig download for the patches.

en.thewitcher.com/patch1-3/

[Costin_Razvan]

WoW...game should run better now on Ubersampling on my nvidia card. Epic!

[Gibb_Shepard]

Terrific game. Was definitely a bit short, but it was truly an amazing game. You can just see the care taken with this game.

*SPOILERS*

Just finished it on Roche's path, and am satisfied with my ending. I ended up letting Letho go in the end, as my Geralt was pretty much sick of all the death and destruction. not to mention killing him will achieve absolutely nothing. He was just a pawn of the Nilfgaardians, working towards a goal that would bring back the Witchers. I don't approve of what he did, but i saw no reason to kill him.

The one choice i regret in this game would have to be my decision with Henselt. I chose to spare him, but i should've left that dog to Roche. He ended up taking Temeria, and with his anti non-human agenda, it didn't look good for the elves and dwarves. But that's just another example of this game's awesome choice and consequence system. The North is stronger with Henselt, but not all the people will be happy.

DA2 really can't hold a candle to this game. It's fun, but TW2 is just quality stuff. As soon as the bugs and glitchy combat is resolved, it'll be a major contender for GOTY imo.

[Mercannis]

Monica83 wrote...

Patch Released!!!!

Not on Steam yet...in my region at least

[Lotion Soronarr]

blothulfur wrote...

Sorcerer's in the witcher world are not the superstitious wand weavers of other settings, they use their powers to learn more of the world around them and its workings. Personally this is what i'd do in their place so i'm not perturbed by it.

Too much, too deep knowledge, using modern science phrases.
Where do they get electron microscopes? I understand mages being knowledgable, but tehy way it's done is just too jarring.

As for the choices thing, it kinds of depends how you approach it I usually play my Geralt neutral as all hell and always seeking the lesser evil but being constantly frustrated by the crap that he is exposed to but there are moments of happiness and little glimpses of light at the end of the tunnel that shine all the brighter because of their rarity such as Seherims last wave to the white wolf as he sails away and cedrics bittersweet last farewell from his home.

That's all minor stuff. No MAJOR decision so far left me happy.

If you go with Iorweh, you basicly betray Roche..who saved you from the dungeon! If I take it I feel like a ungratefull arse.
Yet if I don't I feel also like an arse, given the non-human suffering.

Which is even more absurd, given that if you side with Iorweth, you AUTOMATICLY side with Saskia (I've yet to see any negative trait in her)..if you side with Roche you automaticly side with Henselt (who is pretty much the cunning evil king archetype).
And why exactly?
The Witcher needs to get to Aedirn. Why does he even need either Iorweth or Roche to travel there?

[Lotion Soronarr]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

I'd like to be able to make at least one MAJOR choice in the Witcher and leave satisfied! As it is, no matter what choice I make I'm not satisfied.

That's sorta the point of it all.

Which sucks. Yes, I want to have moral choices and grey ones. But at least ONE major choice that I can be satisfied with. Is that too much to ask? Must EVERYTHING be super-duper grey? It comes off as forced sometimes.

[Costin_Razvan]

Which sucks. Yes, I want to have moral choices and grey ones. But at least ONE major choice that I can be satisfied with. Is that too much to ask? Must EVERYTHING be super-duper grey? It comes off as forced sometimes.

This isn't a game where you can come off righteous from feeling you made the perfect choices, because there are no perfect choices. That's how life is, and the game is epic for it.

 if you side with Roche you automaticly side with Henselt (who is pretty much the cunning evil king archetype). 

While I can agree with the Saskia thing this is where you are wrong since you haven't finished the game, all you do for Henselt is end the curse on him and on the battlefield.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 20 juillet 2011 - 11:48 .

[Wultor]

I didn't like witcher 2 at all... the combat was not great at all... and btw check this out. I tried to make a video for an airsoft contest so could you help me out by viewing it once /watch?v=rP2fcnM4YvU

[blothulfur]

In my mind it's the little moments of happiness that make the northern kingdoms a place worth fighting for just like in the real world, if you want a big choice that has a very satisfying impact though spare Henselt on the Roche path as his people though ruled by a power hungry sociopath will live safe, wealthy and happy lives as he forges his little empire.

Therefore through an act of mercy you've improved the lives of ten of thousands not just the few hundreds of Vergen plus I mean how can anybody kill such a magnificent bastard.

I never sided with Henselt though, I performed some witchers work that involved him and foiled the kingslayers but the king of Kaedwen simply crossed my path. To be honest I wish I had the option to remain so neutral in Vergen as Geralt had no business fighting on her walls against men.

Oh and patch hahahahahahahaha, see you all i'm off to temeria.

I'll add another example of a satisfying decision while i'm waiting for the download, saving little brave Anais and seeing her safe under the strong hand of the greatest warmaster of the north John Natalis and the watchful eyes of Vernon Roche. Now it might be a small thing but I saw that as one of the finest moments of the game, that little girl who had seen so much standing firm in the midst of such dreadful devious bastards as Radovid, Henselt and Shilard.

Ah but then again horses for courses.

Modifié par blothulfur, 20 juillet 2011 - 01:01 .

[slimgrin]

Jacek11 wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Sapkowski uses all sorts of modern vernacular and references that can be a little startling to people unfamiliar with the setting. I personally still have a beef with Fisstech being Cocaine.

I know it bothers some people who think fantasy shoud be true to the middle ages, period. Personally I always liked the modern references and how people, the educated ones at least, seem to share modern and medieval sensibilites. A sorceror might discuss genetics and ponder the moral implications of terrorism, yet the concept of democracy is still something he finds completely ridiculous and hilarious.

In the middle ages scientists, alchemists, etc often were considered mages. I like how it's done as well.

Modifié par slimgrin, 20 juillet 2011 - 12:45 .

[slimgrin]

Just applied the patch and the game runs bloody awful now, frame rate is now down to snails pace even on the lowest graphical settings, and esc doesn't work in the menus, so I can't exit them. This is getting old.

[Costin_Razvan]

You can't side with Henselt really, though by not killing him I suppose one could argue you sided with him.

In my mind it's the little moments of happiness that make the northern kingdoms a place worth fighting for just like in the real world, if you want a big choice that has a very satisfying impact though spare Henselt on the Roche path as his people though ruled by a power hungry sociopath will live safe, wealthy and happy lives as he forges his little empire.

^^This, oh so much of this. There's a reason the majority of the great leaders in our history were also complete dicks. Morality doesn't run well politics.

I'll add another example of a satisfying decision while i'm waiting for the download, saving little brave Anais and seeing her safe under the strong hand of the greatest warmaster of the north John Natalis and the watchful eyes of Vernon Roche. Now it might be a small thing but I saw that as one of the finest moments of the game, that little girl who had seen so much standing firm in the midst of such dreadful devious bastards as Radovid, Henselt and Shilard.

I admit I'll never use this to end a playthrough that I will important in TW3 ( or expansions ) since I do like Radovid a lot, still I agree that it was a great moment to hear Roche tell Greralt about the girl if you give her to Natalis.

[DragonRageGT]

slimgrin wrote...

Just applied the patch and the game runs bloody awful now, frame rate is now down to snails pace even on the lowest graphical settings, and esc doesn't work in the menus, so I can't exit them. This is getting old.

Which patch did you apply? Full or Upgrade?

Frak. NM. Just found out we cannot apply the full patch if we have 1.2 installed. That's stupid. So used to get full patches from Blizzard since... ever.

Modifié par RageGT, 20 juillet 2011 - 01:30 .

[blothulfur]

Apparently the new patch don't work well with all the mods so i'm just uninstalling and reinstalling the whole thing off the gog downloader and patching rather than remember all the mods i've got installed.

[DragonRageGT]

Yeah, I'm going for a fresh full install too. It does say to uninstall all mods due to incompatibility but problem is that I cannot even remember all I had now that they filled CookedPC with so many files! (Good thing I always keep the install files. D/L'ing it all again would be a pain!)

Modifié par RageGT, 20 juillet 2011 - 01:54 .

[Gibb_Shepard]

I've gotten a great performance increase. About 10 FPS increase, awesome.

[RyuGuitarFreak]

Performance seems to be the same for me. You had to see the smile on my face after seeing the storage. By the gods I was happy.

[KnightofPhoenix]

blothulfur wrote...

To be honest I wish I had the option to remain so neutral in Vergen as Geralt had no business fighting on her walls against men.

Yes, that is one flaw in the game. If you choose Iorveth, the game automatically assumes you want to fight for Saskia. On Roche's path, you don't fight for either Henselt or Saskia.

One could argue that when Geralt woke up, the city was already besieged, so he didn't have much choice, other than flee, which is not something Geralt would do (and Geralt does fight men if he sees them as unjust, like in Rivia. so maybe it's the same here). Or that he was waiting or an opportunity to talk to Philippa about Sile. Or something.

I wish it was integrated in the Kingslayer plot better. A simple hint that Letho was also hunting Saskia, or that Sile might be participating in the battle, would have sufficed imo.

As far as choices being satisfying. I was actually satisfied with all my choices, notwithstanding their drawbacks. But I draw satisfaction from other things than a sense of morality. And I am very glad that big choices have little to do with it. 

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 20 juillet 2011 - 03:38 .