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[Wereparrot]

I got TW2 on 360 the other day, but at the moment I'm finding it a bit hard to get into. IMO the more realistic the setting, the more the fantastical elements seem out of place; as of relatively early on in chapter one the political situation is interesting but the monster-slaying just seems to me to be largely irrelevant. And although admittedly I haven't played it very much Geralt seems to have about as much charisma as the coffee stain on my desk.  Also, whoever thought that button-mashing mini-game was a good idea? I'm surprised the A button on my controller still works. As for the voice-acting: the American accents of a few characters seem very out of place in an otherwise British-accented game.

Maybe as I play through the game I will come to like it more. But not that ploughing plough song. And on that note: replacing the f-word when the f-word is already used in-game is silly.

[MILK FOR THE KHORNE FLAKES]

Wereparrot wrote...
IMO the more realistic the setting, the more the fantastical elements seem out of place; as of relatively early on in chapter one the political situation is interesting but the monster-slaying just seems to me to be largely irrelevant.

THIS IS A THEME IN THE WITCHER GAMES/BOOKS, ACTUALLY. WITCHERS WERE INITIALLY A DECONSTRUCTION OF THE WHOLE IDEA OF A MONSTER-SLAYING HERO. THE MAIN PROBLEMS THE WITCHERVERSE FACES ARE MESSY POLITICAL SITUATIONS THAT ARE MUCH MORE DESTRUCTIVE AND DIFFICULT TO DEAL WITH THAN A BIG MONSTER.

[Sylvianus]

Wereparrot wrote...

I got TW2 on 360 the other day, but at the moment I'm finding it a bit hard to get into. IMO the more realistic the setting, the more the fantastical elements seem out of place; as of relatively early on in chapter one the political situation is interesting but the monster-slaying just seems to me to be largely irrelevant. And although admittedly I haven't played it very much Geralt seems to have about as much charisma as the coffee stain on my desk.  Also, whoever thought that button-mashing mini-game was a good idea? I'm surprised the A button on my controller still works. As for the voice-acting: the American accents of a few characters seem very out of place in an otherwise British-accented game.

Maybe as I play through the game I will come to like it more. But not that ploughing plough song. And on that note: replacing the f-word when the f-word is already used in-game is silly.

Mhh, this is basically what I feel... I'm more interested by the political situation personally. I don't like Geralt at any rate. Maybe it will change, but I doubt...

And the combat gameplay is.... really really rough, difficult...+  poorly framed camera, targeting not easy. A story can be good, but without a good combat system... it can be quickly borring and the player can stop playing the game even if he was interested. I wait to see if it is me that sucks on my 360 or if it is the game...

Also, the inventory sucks, really bad.  I don't like how Geralt fights too. I can't help but think he would be dead a thousand time easily. Maybe the witchers are so fast or resistant they can afford to expose their weaknesses, their side, or take a lot of shots?

Now, I like the artstyle, characters look good, I'm just at the beginning and I can already feel there are many choices to do.

The story seems really complex, and cutscenes are worked. I hope it is possible to assimilate everything without having played the first episode. A real atmosphere, and good music.

What is certain is that the game has been deeply worked. Remains to be seen if I can be interested or no.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 21 avril 2012 - 01:24 .

[Babli]

MILK FOR THE KHORNE FLAKES wrote...

Wereparrot wrote...
IMO the more realistic the setting, the more the fantastical elements seem out of place; as of relatively early on in chapter one the political situation is interesting but the monster-slaying just seems to me to be largely irrelevant.

THIS IS A THEME IN THE WITCHER GAMES/BOOKS, ACTUALLY. WITCHERS WERE INITIALLY A DECONSTRUCTION OF THE WHOLE IDEA OF A MONSTER-SLAYING HERO. THE MAIN PROBLEMS THE WITCHERVERSE FACES ARE MESSY POLITICAL SITUATIONS THAT ARE MUCH MORE DESTRUCTIVE AND DIFFICULT TO DEAL WITH THAN A BIG MONSTER.

I LIKE THIS HUMAN. HE UNDERSTANDS.

Real monsters in Witcher universe are humans.

[Sebby]

Yeah, men like Loredo are more monstrous than any Nekker or Drowner.

[Nordicus]

Wereparrot wrote...

IMO the more realistic the setting, the more the fantastical elements seem out of place; as of relatively early on in chapter one the political situation is interesting but the monster-slaying just seems to me to be largely irrelevant. 

This is very "your mileage may vary", because I like how well the games combine the realism and fantasy

The more common monsters like Nekkers and Endrega are thought of as over-sized pests that live in dark caves and forests, often feeding on animal carcasses

And magic is more or less "hard science" in this universe, especially alchemy, and knowledge is often only available to the somewhat wealthy as I can't imagine education is cheap. There is of course the exceptions with witches, who seem more like druids than sorceresses

Modifié par Nordicus, 21 avril 2012 - 02:07 .

[slimgrin]

Wereparrot wrote...

I got TW2 on 360 the other day, but at the moment I'm finding it a bit hard to get into. IMO the more realistic the setting, the more the fantastical elements seem out of place; as of relatively early on in chapter one the political situation is interesting but the monster-slaying just seems to me to be largely irrelevant. And although admittedly I haven't played it very much Geralt seems to have about as much charisma as the coffee stain on my desk.  Also, whoever thought that button-mashing mini-game was a good idea? I'm surprised the A button on my controller still works. As for the voice-acting: the American accents of a few characters seem very out of place in an otherwise British-accented game.

Maybe as I play through the game I will come to like it more. But not that ploughing plough song. And on that note: replacing the f-word when the f-word is already used in-game is silly.

I would say the game definitely isn't for you. There will only be more ploughing, monsters, and anachronistic elements through the whole game. Geralt is supposed to be a world-weary cynical type, not someone with a ton of charisma. When you get an opportunity to hit on the ladies the dialog responses you get to choose from are blunt and sometimes amaturish.

Modifié par slimgrin, 21 avril 2012 - 02:17 .

[NICKjnp]

forsaken gamer wrote...

Geralt doesn't really have a personality in the books, from what I've been told, and the game is based on the books.  That probably doesn't make you like his character any more, but that's why.

The combat takes a little while to adjust to.  You'll find that you have decent choice in your overall build and this will affect your play style.  As you pick up talent points and open up abilities, the combat only gets better and more fullfilling, I think.  It's subjective, but I didn't mind the combat personally. 

The inventory system isn't anything to brag about, that's for sure.  Unfortunately this is one of the cons to using consoles, because you can't mod the 360 version like you can the pc version.  The 'panel tweaks' mod is pretty helpful.  I think the devs should have just implemented it or something similar into the EE version.  I think the modder is probably currently updating it for the EE, because he/she has hidden the files on the Nexus.

Microsoft doesn't like modding...it opens up too many oportunities for people to pirate games on the 360.

[Naughty Bear]

What is 'ploughing'?

Is that shagging?

[Sebby]

Naughty Bear wrote...

What is 'ploughing'?

Is that shagging?

That it is.

[mupp3tz]

Naughty Bear wrote...

What is 'ploughing'?

Is that shagging?

Yes.  Read: effing.  So "Plow em all!" or "He can tell me his ploughing self." etc.

[mupp3tz]

I'm really liking CD Projekt Red. After getting into Witcher, I've been looking up info on whether or not the company has other games (nope) and what they plan to do in the future. Supposedly, there's one more A release this year, a AA next year, and 2 AAA+ games for 2014/2015. Should keep me busy! :]

I also respect the fact that they stick with their commitment to provide additional free content, understand that their games don't appeal to everyone and they're fine with focusing on a niche market, and realize how counterproductive it is to keep going after the pirates as more extreme measures = less viability for players (so none of that "You have to be connected to the server!" crap). Bravo, Projekt Red!

Modifié par M U P P 3 T Z, 21 avril 2012 - 02:38 .

[Krusty84]

A taste of Poland.

[NICKjnp]

forsaken gamer wrote...

NICKjnp wrote...
Microsoft doesn't like modding...it opens up too many oportunities for people to pirate games on the 360.

It would seem to be quite beneficial to the players overall if MS could strike a balance there and implement a way to facilitate mods somehow with their next gen console, but I don't see that happening.

Neither do I.  Modding would mean that you didn't have to pay for armor dlc and such.  Microsoft is a business after all so if money can be made then they want to make it (as long as it doesn't make them look bad).

[wolfsite]

Triying now to download the EE update but both the installer and manual downlaods keep getting errors.

[slimgrin]

wolfsite wrote...

Triying now to download the EE update but both the installer and manual downlaods keep getting errors.

Welcome to the patching of CDPR. <_<

Which version do you have? I recommend hitting their tech and GoG forums. I'll look for some links. As a general rule, avoid using the auto patcher and install files from their site manually.

http://en.thewitcher...tration-issues/
http://en.thewitcher...-md5-checksums/

http://en.thewitcher...ted-every-time/

http://en.thewitcher...154#entry808154

Modifié par slimgrin, 21 avril 2012 - 04:34 .

[Corto81]

Fighting Letho in the Elven Ruins?

Man I forgot how hard that can be at that point of the game.
Took me about 10 tries on Hard.

Hard. Tactical. But not frustrating. And satisfying and rewarding. How it should be.

[wolfsite]

slimgrin wrote...

wolfsite wrote...

Triying now to download the EE update but both the installer and manual downlaods keep getting errors.

Welcome to the patching of CDPR. <_<

Which version do you have? I recommend hitting their tech and GoG forums. I'll look for some links. As a general rule, avoid using the auto patcher and install files from their site manually.

http://en.thewitcher...tration-issues/
http://en.thewitcher...-md5-checksums/

http://en.thewitcher...ted-every-time/

http://en.thewitcher...154#entry808154

I got a retail version that should be fully up to date for everything prior to the EE update.  I did take advantage of the Free Digital backup on GOG would it be easier to just remove the version I have and just download the full EE version or are they having problems with the GOG download also?

[slimgrin]

wolfsite wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

wolfsite wrote...

Triying now to download the EE update but both the installer and manual downlaods keep getting errors.

Welcome to the patching of CDPR. <_<

Which version do you have? I recommend hitting their tech and GoG forums. I'll look for some links. As a general rule, avoid using the auto patcher and install files from their site manually.

http://en.thewitcher...tration-issues/
http://en.thewitcher...-md5-checksums/

http://en.thewitcher...ted-every-time/

http://en.thewitcher...154#entry808154

I got a retail version that should be fully up to date for everything prior to the EE update.  I did take advantage of the Free Digital backup on GOG would it be easier to just remove the version I have and just download the full EE version or are they having problems with the GOG download also?

I'd go with the GoG version as it has a chance to have been updated. Plus it has nudie pics of Triss. Can't beat that.

[KnightofPhoenix]

I finished the Enhanced Edition. Loved it! The improvements they did, especially in Act 3, are awesome. The Lilies and Vipers quest was interesting and fun (story and gaemplay wise), though Brigida was dissapointing.
The new music (especially when talking with Letho, I want to find this soundtrack) is great. Overall, it's awesome.

I am going to write a review of the Enhanced Edition today on the Witcher forums.

Wereparrot wrote...

I got TW2 on 360 the other day, but at the moment I'm finding it a bit hard to get into. IMO the more realistic the setting, the more the fantastical elements seem out of place; as of relatively early on in chapter one the political situation is interesting but the monster-slaying just seems to me to be largely irrelevant. 

I don't agree with that.
I find it complimentary. For sure the focus is on human politics (and thank God for that). Supernatural elements are used most of the time to showcase human problems (think of the mist, or the insane asylum in Act 1).
As for the presence of monsters, they are fun to fight and kill and they give us a Witchery feeling. But more importantly, the way I see it, they are there to remind us that even if the world was full of terrifying monsters, humans will still be more dangerous.  I like it.

As for Geralt's charisma. Geralt is not charismatic, that's his character, especially when he is completely outside his element. However he is fairly intelligent, aware and has cynic wisdom. Though to be quite frank with you, I find him more likeable and charming than Shepard, Hawke and Adam Jensen (especially the first two). 

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 21 avril 2012 - 05:45 .

[Brockololly]

Bleh...just downloaded the EE patch and its all corrupted and whatnot. Spent too much time mucking around trying to fix it so I'm just uninstalling and redownloading the EE off of GOG.

I love CD Projekt but their patching process for TW2 has sucked.