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[Costin_Razvan]

No, I think he let her go to provoke Roche to do something stupid. Ves lied to Roche not to blind him by rage over the rape I guess. Or something similar.

The problem with that is that Ves mentions she could still smell that swine on her ( her direct words ). So I think she told Roche.

[Aeowyn]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Geralts says Ves lied in regard to her telling Roche that Henselt just let her go.

So he let her go in exchange for her having sex with him? What was the mentality of having Henselt do that? He just came off as a dick who was doing it for the evil lulz and I always felt it was done as a reason to portray Henselt as  "evil", which frankly was a bit dissapoininting.

Thanks for the other answer.

Doesn't Geralt say something like "Ves is lying /.../ Dethmold would never have let her go"? And I disagree about the "evil lulz" part. It just portrayed him as the giant arrogant **** he is.

[Costin_Razvan]

Doesn't Geralt say something like "Ves is lying /.../ Dethmold would never have let her go"? And I disagree about the "evil lulz" part. It just portrayed him as the giant arrogant **** he is.

I find it as evil lulz if he only spared her to ****** off Roche after forcing her in that situation.  Certainly Henselt is arrogant but he can also show respect for his foes.

But yes you are right about what Geralt says, and I also find it hard to believe.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 23 avril 2012 - 10:05 .

[Nordicus]

Aeowyn wrote...

Doesn't Geralt say something like "Ves is lying /.../ Dethmold would never have let her go"? And I disagree about the "evil lulz" part. It just portrayed him as the giant arrogant **** he is.

Iirc, Ves wasn't there during the initial hanging, so letting her go wasn't as much Dethmold's decision as it was Henselt's. Henselt has a thing for physically and mentally strong women, and he's not quite as much of a lying bastard as other aristrocrats are, so I personally believe he would honor his side of the agreement on a promise as easily kept as letting someone live.

Plus, leaving Ves alive but horribly tormented would enhance the likelihood of Roche coming to take revenge "guns blazing" rather than using his cunning.

I think Geralt was just being a bit paranoid, as I can't find a rock-solid reason to believe Ves was a spy

Modifié par Nordicus, 23 avril 2012 - 10:07 .

[Costin_Razvan]

The real problem with Ves is that we can't talk or even see her after...that's really the most disappointing. To me, knowing full well this is a game, it just seems the developers decided to go with shock value so you would want to kill Henselt....you know kinda like what Bioware did with Vaughn, and I find myself not giving a damn for it as a result of the shock value mentality.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 23 avril 2012 - 10:14 .

[Aeowyn]

The difference between Vaughn and Henselt is that we didn't really know much about Vaughn before he decided to kidnap the women and rape Shianni. In fact, I don't generally see an RP reason for NOT freeing him if you're not a City Elf. I knew that Henselt was a big ****** before the rape and frankly I was looking forward to seeing him die (because I expected Letho to get to him eventually). This was before the rape mind you, and then I cursed when the end of act 2 decision came.

[Costin_Razvan]

I knew that Henselt was a big ****** before the rape and frankly I was looking forward to seeing him die

Can I ask why actually? I personally liked Henselt ( before that whole situation ), because he was blunt and didn't like lying scumbags, because he risked his own life battle alongside his men ( and even saved one ), that he remembers the names of his soldiers and even gets down and dirty with them.

 
then I cursed when the end of act 2 decision came. 

Well to me the decision came down to the simple fact that Geralt had spent the entire game up to that point trying to clear his name, I sure as hell wasn't going to be responsible for regicide. Besides I liked the conversation with Roche if you spare: "You fought the tougher opponent and won".

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 23 avril 2012 - 10:26 .

[Aeowyn]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

I knew that Henselt was a big ****** before the rape and frankly I was looking forward to seeing him die

Can I ask why actually?

Why I thought he was a ****** or why I was looking forward to seeing him die?

[Costin_Razvan]

Why did you think he was a ******, though that goes hand in hand to why you wanted to see him die, edited my earlier post as well.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 23 avril 2012 - 10:27 .

[Sebby]

I was really looking forward to helping Henselt crush those rebelling non-human scum before Roche had to **** it all up .

That's one major reason why I didn't like Roche as much as Siegfried.

[Costin_Razvan]

Seboist wrote...

I was really looking forward to helping Henselt crush those rebelling non-human scum before Roche had to **** it all up .

That's one major reason why I didn't like Roche as much as Siegfried.

I personally agree with what Roche did, I mean especially with Foltest dead Temeria was vulnerable. That said I find it stupid of him to think that his men wouldn't have blame placed on them if people ever found out. I mean Roche handpicked and trained these guys as special forces.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 23 avril 2012 - 10:30 .

[Sebby]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Seboist wrote...

I was really looking forward to helping Henselt crush those rebelling non-human scum before Roche had to **** it all up .

That's one major reason why I didn't like Roche as much as Siegfried.

I personally agree with what Roche did, I mean especially with Foltest dead Temeria was vulnerable. That said I find it stupid of him to think that his men wouldn't have blame placed on them if people ever found out.

I do too, by him ****ing up I meant him getting caught. Roche's chief flaws are his short sightedness, not being able to to grasp the bigger picture all that well and his temper.... and that's what makes him better than any BW character.

I still ended up killing Henselt to protect Temerian interests though.

[Costin_Razvan]

I still ended up killing Henselt to protect Temerian interests though.

Without Henselt Kaedwen will very likely fall into civil war and without Kaedwen the North will very likely not win. I mean at Brena we had the might of Temeria, Kaedwen and Redannia winning the day. Barely.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 23 avril 2012 - 10:36 .

[Sebby]

Geralt isn't aware the NIlfgaardians are behind the assassinations at the time though.

[Costin_Razvan]

Seboist wrote...

Geralt isn't aware the NIlfgaardians are behind the assassinations at the time though.

Geralt is aware someone is weakening the north by killing these kings. You are just helping them if you kill Henselt. I didn't need to know that Nilfgaard was responsible for it to realize it would be a very bad idea to do what Letho wanted.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 23 avril 2012 - 11:01 .

[Nordicus]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Without Henselt Kaedwen will very likely fall into civil war and without Kaedwen the North will very likely not win.

Dunno how much keeping Henselt alive will help as he was buddy-buddying with the Nilfgaardians during Act 2

Modifié par Nordicus, 23 avril 2012 - 11:47 .

[Costin_Razvan]

Nordicus wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Without Henselt Kaedwen will very likely fall into civil war and without Kaedwen the North will very likely not win.

Dunno how much keeping Henselt alive will help as he was buddy-buddying with the Nilfgaardians during Act 2

He has them in his camp, so what of it? He made a deal with them during the last war but without his army Brenna wouldn't have been a victory. Making treaties does not mean you are best friends or any of that crap. Hell even Radovid makes a deal with them, does that mean he is good friends and won't fight Nilfgaard in the war to come. Also Foltest had Shillard in his own camp, treating with them though he disliked it.

Hell the deal he cut with Kaedwen in the last war stopped Nilfgaard before they reached his own borders. Which they would have otherwise, taking all of Aedirn.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 23 avril 2012 - 11:52 .

[Fiannawolf]

I have witcher 1/2 on the pc plus W2 on xbox. Must support games that rock Esp when you get the upgrades standard if you already own the PC version

[TobiTobsen]

Since somebody mentioned Siegfried again:

Is he also the Grand Master of the Order if I choose the neutral path? Or did I have to support the Order in Witcher 1 for him to be Grand Master?

[Sebby]

TobiTobsen wrote...

Since somebody mentioned Siegfried again:

Is he also the Grand Master of the Order if I choose the neutral path? Or did I have to support the Order in Witcher 1 for him to be Grand Master?

He doesn't become GM if spared in Neutral path.

[TobiTobsen]

Seboist wrote...

TobiTobsen wrote...

Since somebody mentioned Siegfried again:

Is he also the Grand Master of the Order if I choose the neutral path? Or did I have to support the Order in Witcher 1 for him to be Grand Master?

He doesn't become GM if spared in Neutral path.

Hmm.... okay. Never liked Yaevinn anyway

[Sebby]

Yaevinn's by far the most unlikable character in the series bar none. I couldn't wait to kill the bastard with my boy Siegfried during my first run of TW1.

[TobiTobsen]

Seboist wrote...

Yaevinn's by far the most unlikable character in the series bar none. I couldn't wait to kill the bastard with my boy Siegfried during my first run of TW1.

I also found White Rayla to be pretty disgusting. That women had way to much fun fighting the elves... and what she did to Toruviel...

I was smirking when she got hit by the arrow. The icing on the cake was the fact that I could kill her again, this time myself, in the Salamandra hideout.

[Sebby]

I was sad to see Rayla get killed

[Jan Bartkowicz]

hangmans tree wrote...

Jan: have you no regrets as to not being part of TW3 in the future? I know there can be som kind of zmęczenie materiału working so long over one game... but wat was your motivation for leaving CDPR? Was it an easy/hard decision?

No regrets. I left because I wanted to do something else. Next FWH game has no chance to be as epic as TW2 (it's a small budget FPS). For me it's all about learning new stuff.

In the future I would love to own an independent studio, working on some revolutionary single player RPG. But that's just wishing.