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[Sebby]

I have a feeling they'd greatly limit the impact of TW2 choices if there's a Nilfgaard path. They wouldn't want the player to be too gimped or powerful. I'll still metagame a pro-Nilfgaard run of the whole series though.

[Costin_Razvan]

Seboist wrote...

I have a feeling they'd greatly limit the impact of TW2 choices if there's a Nilfgaard path. They wouldn't want the player to be too gimped or powerful. I'll still metagame a pro-Nilfgaard run of the whole series though.

Why should they? If they are actually going for choices making a difference then it should be either easier or harder for Nilfgaard to win depending on your options.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Seboist wrote...

I have a feeling they'd greatly limit the impact of TW2 choices if there's a Nilfgaard path. They wouldn't want the player to be too gimped or powerful. I'll still metagame a pro-Nilfgaard run of the whole series though.

I don't think there will be a pro-Nilfgaard path as such, Geralt is not the kind to become a partisan of anything, let alone an expansionist and rather ruthless empire.

But I'm thinking that Geralt could side with nobility opposing Emhyr or side with Emhyr, in echange for something in both cases.

[Dave of Canada]

I'd like to hear about the North potentially losing or winning based on our TW2 decisions, we don't need to actually see it but just hear it in ambient discussion from Nilfgaardians or Northerners. Such as how Radovid's army is potentially spread too thin if he holds Kaedwen, Redania and Temeria or Loredo betrays the Kaedwens for Nilfgaard because they pay more.

[Costin_Razvan]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Seboist wrote...

I have a feeling they'd greatly limit the impact of TW2 choices if there's a Nilfgaard path. They wouldn't want the player to be too gimped or powerful. I'll still metagame a pro-Nilfgaard run of the whole series though.

I don't think there will be a pro-Nilfgaard path as such, Geralt is not the kind to become a partisan of anything, let alone an expansionist and rather ruthless empire.

But I'm thinking that Geralt could side with nobility opposing Emhyr or side with Emhyr, in echange for something in both cases.

Well he does become a partisan of Saskia's cause on Iorveth path, and he might actually give a damn for Temeria when saving Anais and not just doing it for Roche and really after being able to side with terrorists and mass murders I don't think it would be out of place for him to support Nilfgaard.

But it needs to be done well.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 24 avril 2012 - 08:15 .

[Khayness]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

And excuse me if I don't feel the need to praise CDPR when they made TW1 a completely irrelevant game except for Siegfried being Grandmaster and the weapons and armor you can import.

You also have a whole different approach to the story. My "canon" playthrough couldn't give a damn about the world and politics, the main path for me was regaining Geralt's identity (started in TW1) and catch up with Letho (I had like what, a 20 minutes long conversation with him, damn that was epic).

Just like in the books, Geralt is minding his damn business when suddenly he gets caught up in the events of the North.

Looking back in this thread, you guys are all about Radovid, bro Siegfried, Nilfgaard, mage politics etc. (which is fine, I have Order and Elf luvin' imports too). But trying to see with the eyes of a freshcomer to TW2, I think the personal story of Geralt is waaaaaaaaay overshadowed by the kingdom intrigues.

Modifié par Khayness, 24 avril 2012 - 08:23 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Khayness wrote...
But trying to see with the eyes of a freshcomer to TW2, I think the personal story of Geralt is waaaaaaaaay overshadowed by the kingdom intrigues.

I don't agree with that, I think there is a personal aspect to the story that is not overshadowed (depending on what you are interested in) and one can play a Geralt who only cares about recovering his memory, clearing his name and protecting his friends. We have ample opportunity to establish Geralt's motives and we are not forced to care about politics. The only part that was hamfisted was Saskia in Act 2, all they needed to do was show that the way was blocked and that Geralt had no choice but to fight.

Most of us talk about the rest because that's what interest us more. But to be quite frank, I like Geralt in the second game more than the first. The first was more personal though, that is true.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 24 avril 2012 - 08:21 .

[Sebby]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Seboist wrote...

I have a feeling they'd greatly limit the impact of TW2 choices if there's a Nilfgaard path. They wouldn't want the player to be too gimped or powerful. I'll still metagame a pro-Nilfgaard run of the whole series though.

Why should they? If they are actually going for choices making a difference then it should be either easier or harder for Nilfgaard to win depending on your options.

They could immitate Bioware's "ME3 is the best time to start!" nonsense and overly cater to the newbies. Hopefully not... but you never know.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Dave of Canada wrote...

I'd like to hear about the North potentially losing or winning based on our TW2 decisions, we don't need to actually see it but just hear it in ambient discussion from Nilfgaardians or Northerners. Such as how Radovid's army is potentially spread too thin if he holds Kaedwen, Redania and Temeria or Loredo betrays the Kaedwens for Nilfgaard because they pay more.

I don't think our choices in TW2 should *decide* the outcome, because there are still choces in TW3 that need to be taken into consideration. But I would like them to have an impact and to influence the outcome.

[Sebby]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Seboist wrote...

I have a feeling they'd greatly limit the impact of TW2 choices if there's a Nilfgaard path. They wouldn't want the player to be too gimped or powerful. I'll still metagame a pro-Nilfgaard run of the whole series though.

I don't think there will be a pro-Nilfgaard path as such, Geralt is not the kind to become a partisan of anything, let alone an expansionist and rather ruthless empire.

But I'm thinking that Geralt could side with nobility opposing Emhyr or side with Emhyr, in echange for something in both cases.

Yeah, I'd hope siding with Emhyr is more than just "imma help dem conquer da north lulz". I'm thinking helping Geralt with getting Yennefer's memory back or something like that being the chief motivator.

[Costin_Razvan]

I don't think our choices in TW2 should *decide* the outcome, because there are still choces in TW3 that need to be taken into consideration. But I would like them to have an impact and to influence the outcome.

Consider Rannoch for that and how achieving peace works. Besides on choice in one side quest it all comes down to your ME2 choices. I'd like something like that for TW3 and a northen/Nilfgaardian victory where new players just can't get a Northen victory for instance.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 24 avril 2012 - 08:26 .

[Nerevar-as]

Seboist wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Seboist wrote...

I have a feeling they'd greatly limit the impact of TW2 choices if there's a Nilfgaard path. They wouldn't want the player to be too gimped or powerful. I'll still metagame a pro-Nilfgaard run of the whole series though.

I don't think there will be a pro-Nilfgaard path as such, Geralt is not the kind to become a partisan of anything, let alone an expansionist and rather ruthless empire.

But I'm thinking that Geralt could side with nobility opposing Emhyr or side with Emhyr, in echange for something in both cases.

Yeah, I'd hope siding with Emhyr is more than just "imma help dem conquer da north lulz". I'm thinking helping Geralt with getting Yennefer's memory back or something like that being the chief motivator.

We know the WIld Hunt is up to something so there are good chances Ciri is also somehow involved, and that gives a good starting point for working with Emhyr. I´d like to know what are his reasons for this new campaign.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Seboist wrote...
Yeah, I'd hope siding with Emhyr is more than just "imma help dem conquer da north lulz". I'm thinking helping Geralt with getting Yennefer's memory back or something like that being the chief motivator.

Yea I think they can establish several possible reasons why we would want to side with him, as is the case in TW2.

I am really looking forward to seeing Emhyr Var Emreis. The spice merchant.

[AxisEvolve]

Best Buy sent me a TW2 shirt today. I was supposed to get it for pre-ordering, but they contacted me saying they were all out. They refunded me 10$ off my order because of this, and then surprisingly enough they sent me the shirt as well. May have been a mix up on their end, but hey it works for me. 



I'm not planning on actually wearing it (a bit too big for me). But still, a decent bonus. 90$ Dark Edition w/ free shirt. Not bad. 

[Sebby]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Seboist wrote...
Yeah, I'd hope siding with Emhyr is more than just "imma help dem conquer da north lulz". I'm thinking helping Geralt with getting Yennefer's memory back or something like that being the chief motivator.

Yea I think they can establish several possible reasons why we would want to side with him, as is the case in TW2.

I am really looking forward to seeing Emhyr Var Emreis. The spice merchant.

The most intriguiging aspect is that Geralt has a history with this spice merchant. I look forward to what CDPR will do with him(and Yennefer).

[KnightofPhoenix]

Seboist wrote...
The most intriguiging aspect is that Geralt has a history with this spice merchant. I look forward to what CDPR will do with him(and Yennefer).

Geralt still owes him a couple of hundred orens in his last purchase of southern quality spices.
(hoping newcomers would get confused by this )

Yennefer will definitely be there. Ciri will likely be there (though apparently she is somewhere safe doing something?).

[Sebby]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Seboist wrote...
The most intriguiging aspect is that Geralt has a history with this spice merchant. I look forward to what CDPR will do with him(and Yennefer).

Geralt still owes him a couple of hundred orens in his last purchase of southern quality spices.
(hoping newcomers would get confused by this )

Yennefer will definitely be there. Ciri will likely be there (though apparently she is somewhere safe doing something?).

You might dig Yen and her scent of lilac and gooseberries a lot Knight. She reminded me a lot of Morrigan from the Witcher novels I read (Last Wish,Sword of Destiny and Blood of Elves).

RE: Ciri,She.... teleported to some other world or something.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Seboist wrote...
You might dig Yen and her scent of lilac and gooseberries a lot Knight. She reminded me a lot of Morrigan from the Witcher novels I read (Last Wish,Sword of Destiny and Blood of Elves).

RE: Ciri,She.... teleported to some other world or something.

Yea so I was told. I am not 100% sure yet, but I am already leaning towards Yennefer instead of Triss (not that big of a fan, though I find her character interesting to an extent). Always liked brunettes anyways.

Plus

[Sebby]

I'm hoping she looks like her Spanish Sword of Destiny cover incarnation. <3



I might end up with Triss just for the fact that Geralt dumping his one true love for her friend... would be epic. Bioware could takes some lessons from Sapkowski and CDPR about how romances should be part of the narrative instead of tacked on fan wanking.

[KnightofPhoenix]

I personally kind of already decided how it was going to be.
In TW2, my Geralt loved Triss and he told her that whatever happens, he does not want to lose her. He didn't touch any other woman throughout. But as he gradually recovered more and more of his memory and started to remember Yennefer, he couldn't stop but change his feelings, which even he didn't realize was the case.

Until Act 3, when his friendship with Roche, the political situation in the North and the culpability of the Lodge (made him suspicious of Triss) overpowered his desire to save Triss (and he did want to save her and thought he might do both, just that helping Roche felt more urgent to him). And when he met her in the Temerian encampment, it's at that point he realized that he doesn't love Triss anymore. He still cares for her as a friend, but he broke his promise of never letting her go. Not out of malice, or because of a grudge or anything like that. But because his feelings for Yennefer are resurfacing again.

In TW3 he wil either go with Yennefer, which is likely, or realize that Yennefer changed or that he is forcing himself to love her when in fact he doesn't, in which case he'll either go with Triss or just go freelance.

Epic stuff. See Khayness? I personally do put effort in role playing Geralt and enjoy it a lot 

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 24 avril 2012 - 09:31 .

[AxisEvolve]

This may be old news but The Witcher 1: Director's Cut (Enhanced Edition) is on Steam for $9.99 for anyone that is interested. I just purchased it.

[Rip504]

Awesome map & Quest tracker.

[slimgrin]

Khayness wrote...
But trying to see with the eyes of a freshcomer to TW2, I think the personal story of Geralt is waaaaaaaaay overshadowed by the kingdom intrigues.

It's possible they didn't want to compromise for fresh newcomers here, which is fine with me. Geralt's personal story was in TW1.

[Addai]

Khayness wrote...

Looking back in this thread, you guys are all about Radovid, bro Siegfried, Nilfgaard, mage politics etc. (which is fine, I have Order and Elf luvin' imports too). But trying to see with the eyes of a freshcomer to TW2, I think the personal story of Geralt is waaaaaaaaay overshadowed by the kingdom intrigues.

Not me.  I have always seen Geralt as more about his friends and work than about world events.  I sided with the Scoia'tael in TW1, though going back I would probably do a neutral path.  In TW2 it made it really easy to choose Iorveth's path (as a canon) that it was also was Geralt following Triss and trying to get her back.

So, as always, it's all about how you play the game.  There is a certain group here in the thread who has those interests but that's not all players.

Modifié par Addai67, 25 avril 2012 - 12:51 .

[Brockololly]

Addai67 wrote...
Not me.  I have always seen Geralt as more about his friends and work than about world events.  I sided with the Scoia'tael in TW1, though going back I would probably do a neutral path.  In TW2 it made it really easy to choose Iorveth's path (as a canon) that it was also was Geralt following Triss and trying to get her back.

So, as always, it's all about how you play the game.  There is a certain group here in the thread who has those interests but that's not all players.

Thats why Geralt and the Witcher games are still pretty great from a roleplaying perspective, since even though Geralt is a fixed character, you're given the chance to develop him in significantly different ways and give him different motivations.


In other news, I've finally started playing the EE. Flotsam is even more atmospheric and awesome than I remember. Dogs! Pigs!