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[KJandrew]

But does Geralt know Yarpen is in Vergen at that point? I had to side with Roche on my first go, I just didn't want to help someone who had a hand in killing Foltest, who by that point my Gerlat was pretty chummy with

[Son of a Witch]

KJandrew wrote...

But does Geralt know Yarpen is in Vergen at that point? I had to side with Roche on my first go, I just didn't want to help someone who had a hand in killing Foltest, who by that point my Gerlat was pretty chummy with

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I most definitely had more fun on Ioverth's path gameplay-wise and from the variety of side quests but I still prefer Roche's path. It's simply the fact that when I would be Geralt at the end of the first act I would always side with the man who helped me out of the dungeon and as far as I know has the same agenda as me over the man who helped murdering Foltest and not to long ago would have killed me as well.
Sure, Roche has his flaws but he risked alot by helping me so I feel the need to return the favor. And to be honest here I just like the man that is Vernon Roche. That I miss out on a lot of fun and games with my friends in Vergen and have to help Henselt who turns out to be a ploughing douche is no argument because I couldn't have foretold that when I chose my path. And as great as the flair of Vergen is I don't have that feeling of pending war. In the Kaedweni camp on the other hand... well it is a military camp. It just feels more right.

And in the end no matter how big of a douche Henselt is I let him live. I won't hold against him that he executed the Blue Stripes after he found out Roche was conspiring against him. I don't approve of it but I won't hold it against him. Raping Ves is another matter and maybe every other man would have died for it. But lets face it he is the King of Keadwen who just added a significant piece of land to his realm. He has no heir so if I off him Keadwen will fall into the same turmoil Temeria is in right now which would be exactly what the kingslayers and Nilfgaard want.
It's choosing the lesser of two evils.

Modifié par Son of a Witch, 03 mai 2012 - 12:14 .

[Nerevar-as]

I´d say book Geralt wouldn´t side with Iorveth because he tries to stay away from political and power struggles unless his hand is forced. Even if he sympathizes with the nonhuman plight, I don´t think he´d get involed at big scale unless there was no alternative.

About Henselt, no idea. Maybe killing him, again because I don´t see Geralt as someone who thinks that much in a big scale, but that´s just the way I read his character. And all things considered, Nilfgaard getting the upper hand might improve things in the North. That´s how screwed the setting is. Just read the chapter about the Peace of Cintra when it gets translated.

Modifié par Nerevar-as, 03 mai 2012 - 12:17 .

[horacethegrey]

Another question, what did you decide on in the game's final big narrative choice?

Do you...

IORVETH'S PATH

Rescue Philippa Eilhart to free Saskia?

Rescue Triss?


ROCHE'S PATH

Rescue Anais LaValette with Roche?

Rescue Triss?

[Kahlmulandr]

horacethegrey wrote...

Another question, what did you decide on in the game's final big narrative choice?

Do you...

IORVETH'S PATH

Rescue Philippa Eilhart to free Saskia?

Rescue Triss?


ROCHE'S PATH

Rescue Anais LaValette with Roche?

Rescue Triss?

All of them.....seriously just finished the neutral tw1 save had doing all possible endings.....now Im working on my Order tw1 save

[Addai]

In my game Geralt follows Iorveth mainly because it means going after Triss as first priority, so I can see that as a chick impulse I guess. I prefer to see Geralt as a man more interested in his work and his friends than in politics and world events. When you make that choice, you have no idea about Saskia or what is going on in Vergen. So it's not an idealistic choice IMO.

Siding with the Scoia'tael in TW1 can be viewed as an idealistic choice, I guess. Siding with the Order just never felt right. They fight monsters, but the whole religious mumbo jumbo and knightly crap just doesn't seem like Geralt.

[Kahlmulandr]

hangmans tree wrote...

I hope I'm not being stereotipical here and let me assure you I dont mean to generalize, but I see a tendency of the female audience to sway for Iorveths path more often than not. AS for male gamers I see the pragmatism, a little washed out of idealism maybe, taking the Roches path.

How do you see it people? And why it is exactly?

I've played all the paths and while I like Iorveth's path. I always got the feeling from TW1 and TW2 that Geralt while definitely is not a saint is a man of his words who also repay's his debts. All in all I felt he has his own "Code of Honor" that he follows which is why I feel the Roche path is the proper path. That being said if the information of who was at Vergen and what the goal there is...was known before we had to make a choice as too either Iorveth or Roche...I could easily see Geralt going that way....I guess I just find it hard for Geralt to leave with Iorveth (if he were not part of the equation the choice would be much harder to make.)

[Naughty Bear]

Ok people i really need help, i don't know why i am dying but i just keep dying in 2-3 shots in the Battlefield. I want to explore but it just get smoked.

Do i need to complete a quest before i can explore the battlefield? Like get some ability?

[Kahlmulandr]

Naughty Bear wrote...

Ok people i really need help, i don't know why i am dying but i just keep dying in 2-3 shots in the Battlefield. I want to explore but it just get smoked.

Do i need to complete a quest before i can explore the battlefield? Like get some ability?

Can't go into the battlefield till Philippa or Dethmold say they will help you cross it....in both cases its about 3/4 of the way through ACT 2

Modifié par Kahlmulandr, 03 mai 2012 - 04:59 .

[Naughty Bear]

Kahlmulandr wrote...

Naughty Bear wrote...

Ok people i really need help, i don't know why i am dying but i just keep dying in 2-3 shots in the Battlefield. I want to explore but it just get smoked.

Do i need to complete a quest before i can explore the battlefield? Like get some ability?

Can't go into the battlefield till Philippa or Dethmold say they will help you cross it....in both cases its about 3/4 of the way through ACT 2

So i can't fully explore it by my own will? It's so far, the most interesting place to visit. The scenery is amazing, love it when the sun goes dark, or the bright blue aura surround the place with bright reds flashing from fires.

Got to say it again, Vergens atmosphere song is beautiful.

Modifié par Naughty Bear, 03 mai 2012 - 05:04 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

horacethegrey wrote...

Another question, what did you decide on in the game's final big narrative choice?

Do you...

IORVETH'S PATH

Rescue Philippa Eilhart to free Saskia?

Rescue Triss?


ROCHE'S PATH

Rescue Anais LaValette with Roche?

Rescue Triss?

Iorveth's path:
Free Saskia

Roche's Path.
Give Anais to Radovid.

[Addai]

Kahlmulandr wrote...
I've played all the paths and while I like Iorveth's path. I always got the feeling from TW1 and TW2 that Geralt while definitely is not a saint is a man of his words who also repay's his debts. All in all I felt he has his own "Code of Honor" that he follows which is why I feel the Roche path is the proper path. That being said if the information of who was at Vergen and what the goal there is...was known before we had to make a choice as too either Iorveth or Roche...I could easily see Geralt going that way....I guess I just find it hard for Geralt to leave with Iorveth (if he were not part of the equation the choice would be much harder to make.)

I never interpreted going with Iorveth as saying that Geralt did not care about finding Foltest's murderer.  He intends to do both, it's a matter of what is foremost in his mind.  Since in my game he's romantically involved with Triss, trying to find her is a higher priority than interrogating a suspect which Roche can handle on his own.

I finished TW1 and started my Iorveth replay now, so maybe I'll feel differently about it on a second run.

Oh and my Act 3 choice was also to save Triss, hence Saskia remains under the curse.  It's a tough choice.

@ Naughty Bear:  Yeah you are not meant to explore the mist without some magical backup.  It's basically insta-death.

Modifié par Addai67, 03 mai 2012 - 05:16 .

[Kahlmulandr]

Naughty Bear wrote...

Kahlmulandr wrote...

Naughty Bear wrote...

Ok people i really need help, i don't know why i am dying but i just keep dying in 2-3 shots in the Battlefield. I want to explore but it just get smoked.

Do i need to complete a quest before i can explore the battlefield? Like get some ability?

Can't go into the battlefield till Philippa or Dethmold say they will help you cross it....in both cases its about 3/4 of the way through ACT 2

So i can't fully explore it by my own will? It's so far, the most interesting place to visit. The scenery is amazing, love it when the sun goes dark, or the bright blue aura surround the place with bright reds flashing from fires.

Got to say it again, Vergens atmosphere song is beautiful.

If you went with Iorveth no you have to stay within Philippa's protection....Dethmold gives you a amulet and sends you on your way so I guess you could run willy nilly around the battlefield if you wanted.

Addai67 wrote...

Kahlmulandr wrote...
I've played all the paths and while I like Iorveth's path. I always got the feeling from TW1 and TW2 that Geralt while definitely is not a saint is a man of his words who also repay's his debts. All in all I felt he has his own "Code of Honor" that he follows which is why I feel the Roche path is the proper path. That being said if the information of who was at Vergen and what the goal there is...was known before we had to make a choice as too either Iorveth or Roche...I could easily see Geralt going that way....I guess I just find it hard for Geralt to leave with Iorveth (if he were not part of the equation the choice would be much harder to make.)

I never interpreted going with Iorveth as saying that Geralt did not care about finding Foltest's murderer. He intends to do both, it's a matter of what is foremost in his mind. Since in my game he's romantically involved with Triss, trying to find her is a higher priority than interrogating a suspect which Roche can handle on his own.

I finished TW1 and started my Iorveth replay now, so maybe I'll feel differently about it on a second run.

I never said that going with Iorveth ment Geralt abandoned his search...at the time you make your choice its Iorveth the admitted murderer w/ a dream and Roche the murderer due to duty...Whom you basically owe your life too and also made a promise with....Both express that they will go to Vergen, both also have a agenda before that its just a matter of Geralt's "Code" again for me.

Modifié par Kahlmulandr, 03 mai 2012 - 05:20 .

[Leinadi]

The Vergen songs are really nice but all in all the soundtrack is pretty disappointing compared to the soundtrack for the first game. That really had a wonderful sense of atmosphere and really enhanced the sorta folklore-ish aspects of the settings.

[Naughty Bear]

forsaken gamer wrote...

jonesy1138 wrote...
Dat hoof!

Dem hooves!

She could be built like a brick sh*t house, but those hooves...

Naughty Bear wrote...
Got to say it again, Vergens atmosphere song is beautiful.

Those two songs are among my favorite in the game.  I like Dwarven Stone Upon Dwarven Stone a little better than Vergen by night, but they're both nice.

I really like the voice in ' Dwarven Stone Upon Dwarven Stone'.
: Plays at 5:59. That is an amazing voice, not sure what is better, the voice in 'Ezio's Family' or 'Dwarven Stone Upon Dwarven Stone'.

Modifié par Naughty Bear, 03 mai 2012 - 06:20 .

[Sebby]

Nothing tops the Nilfgaardian theme song in terms of sheer badassery. Hopefully Emhyr can become my Geralt's homeboy in the next one.

[Costin_Razvan]

I never said that going with Iorveth ment Geralt abandoned his search...at the time you make your choice its Iorveth the admitted murderer w/ a dream and Roche the murderer due to duty.

Roche's a soldier, not a murderer.

[Sebby]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

I never said that going with Iorveth ment Geralt abandoned his search...at the time you make your choice its Iorveth the admitted murderer w/ a dream and Roche the murderer due to duty.

Roche's a soldier, not a murderer.

That one flashback says he becomes a murderer "if needed".

[Costin_Razvan]

I'd hardly call killing Loredo murder.

[Addai]

The series plays with the line between justified killing and murder a lot. Implying that the line isn't so hard and fast.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Regardless of whether you want to call it "murder" or not (at this point, a technicality), Roche has a dirty portfolio. No one likes the Blue Stripes for a reason.

[Costin_Razvan]

Because they are essentially Foltest's secret police.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Because they are essentially Foltest's secret police.

Who usually earn their notoriety.

[Costin_Razvan]

Obviously. I wonder who is in charge of who. Thaler of Roche or the other way around.