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[Costin_Razvan]

It's a shame there is no such character like Cynthia on Roche's path. I mean there is Ves...but eh her romance is just: "You beat me in a duel now I want to have sex with you....kinda meh." I do like Ves as a character but she is underdeveloped.

That however does put me in an interesting situation though for TW3.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 21 mai 2012 - 03:53 .

[Babli]

So, we´ve got a new artwork.

http://en.thewitcher...unity/entry/239







What do you think it portraits? At first i thought its supposed to portray prologue at La Vallette´s castle, but those colors of uniforms look more Kaedwenish. Or maybe its Nilfgaard? Or something else? Would be awesome if its from W3.

[mupp3tz]

I liked Ves at first. When you talk to her in Act I, she makes it a point to talk about how she is not interested in Geralt and that the timing is wrong, preceded by her talking about how important it is for her to do something meaningful instead of easily selling her body away. Cool. Virtues! I can respect that.

And then: Oh wait.. we're going to have sex now because I beat you in a duel? Okaay...

Edit: Thanks for sharing the artwork.  Could it perhaps be the Nilfgaardian's approaching?

Modifié par M U P P 3 T Z, 21 mai 2012 - 04:01 .

[Alpha-Centuri]

You took her for serious. For someone who is in "a man's world" and has to fight so hard to be seen as equal, thats probably a pretty good way to get pannies thrown at you. Before, in Act 1, she didn't know you, and assumed you were another chauvanistic ****** who wanted to get in her pants.

I'm sure quite a few Geralts let her win because shes a woman. By beating her, you earned her respect not because you're better, she always knew you were, but because you respected her enough to kick her ass.

It makes sense if you think about it

[Addai]

Costin_Razvan wrote...
To be clear. I didn't kill her because I like Stennis or think he will make a good king. I am frankly indifferent to him. I killed because as I see it in the war, in any war for that matter, division will destroy you and division is exactly what you will get between Upper Aedirn if led by Saskia and the other northen realms. With her dead Aedirn will likely retake Vergen in weeks, since I doubt that the state there will survive without Saskia. As I see it the North is better off without her in the war with Nilfgaard.

I just can't fathom how you believe there will be no division if Stennis is ruling.  The people in Upper Aedirn got a taste of freedom and won't be easily ruled by anybody, let alone by somebody so stubbornly oblivious as Stennis.

None of the North has much chance against the Nilfgaardians, but I would put money even on a cursed Saskia plus dwarven ingenuity plus Scoia'tael desperation over a battered down, demoralized population who passionately hates their leader.

As for Radovid and Henselt, well what do you expect? That's kinda what you do in politics with someone who became your ally. You act nicely to each other publicly even if you hate each other.

I think you're still missing my point- I'm not disgusted by their show of jolliness but at the idea of the two of them dividing Temeria and so smug about it.  Some latent sentimentality for Temeria I guess.  Radovid having it as his protectorate with one of Foltest's daughters having some influence is more palatable to me than the land being diced up and part of it given to that pig Henselt.

[Seboist]

Stennis isn't oblivious, he becomes sensitive to the plight of his subjects as King.

[Costin_Razvan]

I just can't fathom how you believe there will be no division if Stennis is ruling. The people in Upper Aedirn got a taste of freedom and won't be easily ruled by anybody, let alone by somebody so stubbornly oblivious as Stennis.

None of the North has much chance against the Nilfgaardians, but I would put money even on a cursed Saskia plus dwarven ingenuity plus Scoia'tael desperation over a battered down, demoralized population who passionately hates their leader.

Who states that all the people of Aedirn hate Stennis? The people in Vergen might but not those in the rest of the land and the people in Upper Aedirn are irrelevant to the war. Upper Aedirn is important for it's strategic value, nothing more. Without Geralt to help them they don't even win against Henselt despite their best efforts.

And frankly I think you are delusional if you think a thousand armed peasants with some dwarves and Scoia'Tel stand a chance at stopping Nilfgaard when Nilfgaard brought hundreds of thousands of troops to bear in the last war. The only hope they have it to fight together under one banner. This will not happen with Saskia in charge.

Truth be told I don't think the North can win the war regardless of what you do.

And you obviously didn't see the flasback if Stennis is alive to know what you are talking about people in Aedirn hating Stennis.

 
but at the idea of the two of them dividing Temeria and so smug about it. 

That's only natural considering the prize they gained, and they do divide it on Roche's path if you don't save Anais and Henselt is alive.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 21 mai 2012 - 04:50 .

[Addai]

Costin_Razvan wrote...
Who states that all the people of Aedirn hates Stennis? The people in Vergen might but not those in the rest of the land and the people in Upper Aedirn are irrelevant to the war. Upper Aedirn is important for it's strategic value, nothing more. Without Geralt to help them they don't even win against Henselt despite their best efforts.

Without Geralt they don't have Scoia'tael reinforcements.  It's an evenly matched war all in all.

Stennis has very little support other than Saskia herself, that's stated from the beginning of the game.  And he being who he is, he's bound to ****** what little good will he does have away.

And frankly I think you are delusional if you think a thousand armed peasants with some dwarves and Scoia'Tel stand a chance at stopping Nilfgaard when Nilfgaard brought hundreds of thousands of troops to bear in the last war.. The only hope they have it to fight together under one banner. This will not happen with Saskia in charge.

Some geography you might want to look up:  Morgarten, Sempach, Laupen...

And you obviously didn't see the flasback if Stennis is alive to know what you are talking about people in Aedirn hating Stennis.

I did- I don't let the peasants lynch him.  The nobles of course are glad to back him, since they are losing privileges under Saskia.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Addai67 wrote...
BTW people like to refer to him as "Prince Penis" but Radovid sounds just like him when he's chiding Saskia that the only crown she deserves to wear is a wreath of flowers. Honestly, the slide with him and Henselt having beers and yuk'ing it up over dividing Temeria makes me sick. It doesn't even make sense in my game for Radovid to make that deal, since he's married to Adda in this game and Henselt was just handed a defeat. He could have taken Temeria all for himself.

That's politics. Just like Henselt acts like a complete arrogant douche in the negotiations, while showing Aedirn respect behind the scenes. Radovid says he is impressed with what the peasants did and that the knighthood is in danger, when talking one on one.

And yes it makes sense as Adda is useless. No one recognizes the incest spawned bastard and cursed monster to be heir. Radovid can't take Temeria on his own without actually invading, something he wishes to avoid. The only way he can make a quick annexation is to bring in Kaedwen.

@ KoP: What is silly is still arguing the point when it doesn't mean a thing.  I do concede about Cynthia being an apprentice- but it still doesn't prove that Philippa was in on the Triss thing.

You just shifted goal posts. I never said that Philippa being in on it is a proven fact. I say it's extremily likely and I am convinced that is the case.

But it is a fact that Saskia was trying to kill Foltest.

[mupp3tz]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
But it is a fact that Saskia was trying to kill eat Foltest.

Fixed it for you.

Modifié par M U P P 3 T Z, 21 mai 2012 - 05:18 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

horacethegrey wrote...
I do agree though that the peasant mob in Vergen are a bunch of idiots. They're just as bad as those idiots in Flotsam.

And yet you empowered them and set them loose on a Prince. The same mob that wants to kick dwarves out of their city.

Stennis might be the idiotc **** you think he is, and that he is guilty of poisoning Saskia. But that situation is far far bigger than him and his guilt or innocence.

Mob rule is the worse kind of situation you want to get yourself in.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Well I guess you could argue Triss could become her advisor. Something to think about.

But I would disagree that the Lodge was run by self-absorbed mages. They did care about strenghtening the North and actually did support Saskia's ideals. I think Phillipa respected Saskia.

That's not to say the Lodge is without it's sins. What they did at the first battle of Vergen...well that's tough to forgive.

I not only forgive it, I say it was the smart move.

Philippa had the right idea imo. I don't think Triss is nearly capable enough as Philippa to forge a strong state and to protect it with politicking behind the scenes. Triss may not be innocent, but she is not ruthless enough.

[KnightofPhoenix]

nvm

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 21 mai 2012 - 05:39 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Alpha-Centuri wrote...

You took her for serious. For someone who is in "a man's world" and has to fight so hard to be seen as equal, thats probably a pretty good way to get pannies thrown at you. Before, in Act 1, she didn't know you, and assumed you were another chauvanistic ****** who wanted to get in her pants.

I'm sure quite a few Geralts let her win because shes a woman. By beating her, you earned her respect not because you're better, she always knew you were, but because you respected her enough to kick her ass.

It makes sense if you think about it

Agreed, I liked it personally. Didn't feel Ves was underdevelopped. But she is sadly lacking closure.

[Seboist]

"Geralt, I need your sword not your dick" was an epic line.

[KJandrew]

Is Letho actually from Gulet or is that just an alias he uses while in the North?

[Costin_Razvan]

The Witchers invent their names. Geralt did for his own.

[termokanden]

Alright, my graphics card was finally replaced and I've decided to give this game another go (now it's a smooth ride on ultra). Still pretty early, but I'm really hoping it opens up. Feel like I'm being railroaded. I'm really digging the plot so far though, and I'd be skipping through conversations in most games by now.

[Addai]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
But it is a fact that Saskia was trying to kill Foltest.

When you find that bit of dialogue where she says "it's a good thing that Kingslayer came along, since you ruined my plan to take out Foltest," then let me know. 

About the new art- It's hard to see, but the uniforms look grey/blue to me.  There is a tent city outside the city/ castle- maybe a siege is going on and this is a cavalry force that's going to try to break it?

Modifié par Addai67, 21 mai 2012 - 09:47 .

[StGelais]

In regards to the new artwork, the Nilfgaardian sun is visible on one of the flags. It appears the troops are preparing to lay siege to a Temerian stronghold.

[KJandrew]

Addai67 wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
But it is a fact that Saskia was trying to kill Foltest.

When you find that bit of dialogue where she says "it's a good thing that Kingslayer came along, since you ruined my plan to take out Foltest," then let me know. 

We see the dragon twice, both times it makes a beeline straight for Foltest. You can't try and argue she's just trying to tip the scales of the battle. Three guys strolling along a walkway hardly is worth her time, given the effort she puts into chasing him if she didn't know it was Foltest.

[horacethegrey]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
And yet you empowered them and set them loose on a Prince. The same mob that wants to kick dwarves out of their city.

Stennis might be the idiotc **** you think he is, and that he is guilty of poisoning Saskia. But that situation is far far bigger than him and his guilt or innocence.

Mob rule is the worse kind of situation you want to get yourself in.

I'd rather they be empowered than let some idiottic nobility walk all over them. As for their feelings towards nonhumans, they may not think much of the dwarves or elves now, but given time the peasants may learn to aceept them. That's why it's important to save Saskia. Under her leadership they can have a state where all races may feel welcome. Denying them that chance is cruel. 

[slimgrin]

Why are they still creating new art for the game? I'm intrigued.

[mupp3tz]

slimgrin wrote...

Why are they still creating new art for the game? I'm intrigued.

*Cross fingers really hard for an expansion.*

Either way, I'm eager to see what the supposed 2 A games for 2012 are (Was the TW2 console port considered one?) and AA and AAA titles for 2013/2014.  I lub me some CDPR.

Modifié par M U P P 3 T Z, 22 mai 2012 - 12:00 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Addai67 wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
But it is a fact that Saskia was trying to kill Foltest.

When you find that bit of dialogue where she says "it's a good thing that Kingslayer came along, since you ruined my plan to take out Foltest," then let me know. 

When you can open your eyes and see the obvious, let me know.

horacethegrey wrote...
I'd
rather they be empowered than let some idiottic nobility walk all over
them. As for their feelings towards nonhumans, they may not think much
of the dwarves or elves now, but given time the peasants may learn to
aceept them. That's why it's important to save Saskia. Under her
leadership they can have a state where all races may feel welcome.
Denying them that chance is cruel.

You emprison Stennis, you don't let him just walk away.
The rest of your post is irrelevent to the choice.