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[Russalka]

It is so nice to dispel misconceptions.

I expect that recent "dark edition" has been all but sold out? I like having big boxes, online editions aren't so appealing.

Also, how viable is it to play a purely "mage" character?

[Kris69]

Russalka wrote...

It is so nice to dispel misconceptions.

I expect that recent "dark edition" has been all but sold out? I like having big boxes, online editions aren't so appealing.

Also, how viable is it to play a purely "mage" character?

Magic tree is the easiest one, but not the most satisfying. You'll end up using your swords anyway, but magic tree allows you to use your signs more  instead of blocking and rolling.

[Druk-Qs]

Kris69 wrote...

Russalka wrote...

It is so nice to dispel misconceptions.

I expect that recent "dark edition" has been all but sold out? I like having big boxes, online editions aren't so appealing.

Also, how viable is it to play a purely "mage" character?

Magic tree is the easiest one, but not the most satisfying. You'll end up using your swords anyway, but magic tree allows you to use your signs more  instead of blocking and rolling.

This reminds me, how much has Quen been nerfed? i haven't played the Enhanced Edition yet(The f***ing thing won't download, i have to buy it again:pinched:)

[Gibb_Shepard]

Russalka wrote...

It is so nice to dispel misconceptions.

I expect that recent "dark edition" has been all but sold out? I like having big boxes, online editions aren't so appealing.

Also, how viable is it to play a purely "mage" character?

Very viable. The magic tree is the most powerful, without a doubt. However, be sure to unlock the first couple talents in the swordsman tree; the talents being "Riposte" and one that increases your jump length. IMO they're damn essential to the game and should've been placed in the "Witcher" tree, which is basically the starting tree that gives you the essential talents.

[Kris69]

One_Sunny_Place wrote...

Kris69 wrote...

Russalka wrote...

It is so nice to dispel misconceptions.

I expect that recent "dark edition" has been all but sold out? I like having big boxes, online editions aren't so appealing.

Also, how viable is it to play a purely "mage" character?

Magic tree is the easiest one, but not the most satisfying. You'll end up using your swords anyway, but magic tree allows you to use your signs more  instead of blocking and rolling.

This reminds me, how much has Quen been nerfed? i haven't played the Enhanced Edition yet(The f***ing thing won't download, i have to buy it again:pinched:)

Don't know, I've never used Quen. Only Aard + swordsmenship.

[Corto81]

One_Sunny_Place wrote...


This reminds me, how much has Quen been nerfed? i haven't played the Enhanced Edition yet(The f***ing thing won't download, i have to buy it again:pinched:)

Quen went from overpowered to barely useful, which is good.
It's basically gone in one of, at most, two hits from enemies, and should've been this way from the start, makes combat much more enjoyable.

[Druk-Qs]

Corto81 wrote...

One_Sunny_Place wrote...


This reminds me, how much has Quen been nerfed? i haven't played the Enhanced Edition yet(The f***ing thing won't download, i have to buy it again:pinched:)

Quen went from overpowered to barely useful, which is good.
It's basically gone in one of, at most, two hits from enemies, and should've been this way from the start, makes combat much more enjoyable.

Oh goodie, means i'm gonna get my ass handed to me all the more frequently!

Modifié par One_Sunny_Place, 24 mai 2012 - 12:07 .

[slimgrin]

http://gearburn.com/...-games-grow-up/

[Druk-Qs]

"Press X to F*ck"


lol

[mupp3tz]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Russalka wrote...

It is so nice to dispel misconceptions.

I expect that recent "dark edition" has been all but sold out? I like having big boxes, online editions aren't so appealing.

Also, how viable is it to play a purely "mage" character?

Very viable. The magic tree is the most powerful, without a doubt. However, be sure to unlock the first couple talents in the swordsman tree; the talents being "Riposte" and one that increases your jump length. IMO they're damn essential to the game and should've been placed in the "Witcher" tree, which is basically the starting tree that gives you the essential talents.

You're also going to want to consider parrying from all directions, less 200% backstab, and expanded dodge roll under the swordsman tree.  I'm not sure how viable it is to just stick to one tree in harder modes, as you'll tend to have points in at least 2 trees for balance in alchemy, swordsmanship, and signs.

[Addai]

One_Sunny_Place wrote...
This reminds me, how much has Quen been nerfed? i haven't played the Enhanced Edition yet(The f***ing thing won't download, i have to buy it again:pinched:)

What, really?  From GoG.com?  I had no problems after the initial flub with the pre-download.

[Addai]

slimgrin wrote...

Addai67 wrote...


I didn't like it much, but prefer it to TW2 which really is button spamming.

I'm sorry, it is.  But I'm sure twitch combat is here to stay and they'll probably go further down the "you're going to die a lot" route, so rejoice.

[Damariel]

http://witcher-damna...rt.com/gallery/

[Costin_Razvan]

I'm sorry, it is. But I'm sure twitch combat is here to stay and they'll probably go further down the "you're going to die a lot" route, so rejoice.

Someone who sucks at a combat system is not one who understands it and someone who doesn't understand it can't pass judgement. Yes there is a certain ammount of reflex skill involved, so what? There's also a ****ton of stats to be considered, BOTH are crucialy important, you've obviously never played a game where it's actually ALL about reflex skill and nothing else. 

And what the **** is wrong with a "twitchy" combat system? What that you dislike it? Sorry that's purely biased view and nothing more. Give me a good reason why TW2 combat is bad. That you consider a real challenge a chore that is exactly like work for you is not one. Others btw don't view it like that. I personally am bored as hell when a game's combat offers zero challenge and I don't play games to be bored.

Having good reflexes won't get you nowhere if you are a dumb idiot who doesn't know how to properly level up and equip Geralt.

Frankly, all I see when most complain of the combat system are just a bunch of players who are pissed the game requires skill to actually beat. I've seen so many people saying: Oh yeah it's just rolling to beat the game on Insane. No it ****ing isn't

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 24 mai 2012 - 07:57 .

[Seboist]

TW2 combat is hardly that twitchy, in fact it provides a lot leeway compared to the likes of Ninja Gaiden.

[Addai]

Ooh, someone has a different opinion- we must crush it under ad hominem. Get over yourself, Costin. You make this thread one of the most intolerant and unpleasant on the board.

[Costin_Razvan]

And you make a point to trash the combat system just because you dislike it, or perhaps it didn't occur to you that some people wouldn't like it if you dismiss something enjoy as just being twitchy when it bloody well isn't?

If someone presents a good argument in favor of their opinion I will listen to it, and maybe even agree to it ( and I do agree with certain people about the flaws of the combat system, because they do exist ).

More to the point: If you hate the goddamn combat systems so much and hate dying and don't care one bloody bit about it as you then why don't you use a God mode mod? There's one out there, or you can use a trainer.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 24 mai 2012 - 08:22 .

[Druk-Qs]

Addai67 wrote...

One_Sunny_Place wrote...
This reminds me, how much has Quen been nerfed? i haven't played the Enhanced Edition yet(The f***ing thing won't download, i have to buy it again:pinched:)

What, really?  From GoG.com?  I had no problems after the initial flub with the pre-download.

No it wasn't from GoG, it was from the regular Witcher website.
I'm not sure what it is, it doesn't report a problem or anything, the download just stops.

[Costin_Razvan]

Have you tried reinstalling the game? 

EDIT: If the downloader is giving you problems, get the EE without it here: 
http://en.thewitcher.com/ee_manual/ 

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 24 mai 2012 - 08:23 .

[mupp3tz]

Can't people just say "Well, I don't like this part of the game" without having to write a university level essay to defend it? It's really not that big of a deal.

[Costin_Razvan]

People could do that without claiming it's bad. Also is it soo hard for people to admit they are just bad at playing certain games? We all have our genres which we aren't good at, but do we really have to ****** on the games which kick our asses? 

I don't care if someone dislikes the combat system. I do care when they claim it's badly designed because of their dislike. It's the same principle between saying ( for instance, since this one is brought up by a few people on TW forums ) "I dislike Letho winning the duel" and "Letho winning the duel is ****".

The former is a fine statement because it's your own personal subjective dislike of something in the game, the latter is just claiming that portion of the game is bad.

If someone is going to claim the combat is bad then they better have a good argument to back their statement.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 24 mai 2012 - 08:41 .

[Addai]

Costin, even when things go smooth as butter- I still hate the combat. Get over it. I never claimed it was badly designed- though I think the leveling system could be better- I said they're going to stick with this style so those who like it can rejoice. You don't need to fly off the handle anytime someone criticizes some aspect of the game you like.

[Costin_Razvan]

What do you call your statement as saying TW2 is button mashing then? I would say you are dismissing the combat as purely reflex.

Do you know why I rail against those who complain about the combat ( especially that it's too hard )? Because I do not ****ing want CDPR to make it easier. They've already removed Insane Difficulty from the Xbox 360 version. They've made the prologue a cakewalk affair and they did all these because people complained of the game being too hard.

The good thing they did however was nerfing Quen.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 24 mai 2012 - 09:03 .

[Addai]

Well like I said, they're going in your direction. Don't rub it in.

[Druk-Qs]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Have you tried reinstalling the game? 

EDIT: If the downloader is giving you problems, get the EE without it here: 
http://en.thewitcher.com/ee_manual/ 

Thank you!