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Whatever anyone says DA2 did sell well it may not have outsold Dragon Age Origins but it 2 million maybe more.

Bioware, I highly doubt they would license the RED Engine as much as I'd like them to. They always use their own crappy engines for their games except Mass Effect I guess cause it's shooter/rpg hybrid. Like Archaven said it'd be more beneficial to create an engine themselves that they know the ins and outs.

But you can't expect Bioware to make an engine as good as RED because they make games simultaneously for all systems so it would take more work from Bioware to make one game which they probably won't do.

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naughty99 wrote..

On the download shelf for GOG, I see some other things that look like comic books. What are these things? free games? Teen Agent, Beneath a Steel Sky, Lair of the Temptress, Tyrian 2000



Yeah...those Titles you see that you didn't Purchase yourself are Free to download. Nothin Spectacular...but Free is Free.

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Yeah, to actually compete and not look pitiful in a post-Witcher 2 world BioWare can't possibly remain idle. They must have a solid an iterative dev time for DA3, they must either create or more likely license a new game engine, and their whole design attitude must change. They can't always hide behind 'limited resources' and 'you have to choose one or the other'. CD Project created something far superior with a much smaller budget, after all. Ultimately, by creating some bland, agreeable, cut corners experience 'for everyone' you can't reach a top position.

Just look at how uncompromising Witcher 2 is in terms of its story: for instance, the game truly expects the player to be somewhat knowledgeable of the first game's events. DA2, on the other hand, was practically a reboot in terms of requiring existing knowledge from the player. It was the 'everyone must enjoy this' mentality again.

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Wyndham711 wrote...

DA2, on the other hand, was practically a reboot in terms of requiring existing knowledge from the player. It was the 'everyone must enjoy this' mentality again.


Lol, it was made for those who quit the previous game after 1 hour, what did you expect?

This Upload Gameplay Feedback feature is a load of crap, because they interpret the feedback in their own way, and alas, that's what you get.

I wonder what they will think that I've turned off from Nightmare to Casual a few bossfights: that the bossfights was as hard as they are intended, or I wasn't stupid enough to do the same 3 things over and over again for 30 mins, because a few phases and trillions of HP belongs to MMOs. :whistle:

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Indeed. I'd ask myself to what kind of audience I really like to design my games for. To the people who played perhaps an hour and left it at that (and then I'd have to go through endless speculation as to why that was the case with those individuals), or to the people who feel most passionate for my product, and played through it perhaps even multiple times wanting to see and experience everything? To me the answer is obvious. I just don't see it as very inspiring to create games/sequels on the conditions of audiences that don't seem to care much for my creations in the first place.

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Pechvogel wrote...

Nah just teasing, made you look though didn't I :)

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I think I'm loosing it, the wait is becoming unbearable.


Oh you evil little... :pinched:  You really did get me with that, was scratching my head trying to work out where you could possible see a reflection. :D

Shirosaki17 wrote...
Thanks for that. I know it has to be a pain in the ass doing those vids with one hand.

Those dice and cards look good. I like how they used the 4 kings in the trailer for the 4 kings. Also, Triss being the Queen of Hearts fits. Too bad there doesn't appear to be a card for Geralt. Are the card games in the instructional booklet just poker?


Well I am skilled with doing things one handed. :police:

Now that you mention it, it does seem weird that there is no Geralt card.  Makes sense that Dandelion is the Joker card though.  Not had a chance to read through it yet since my nieces are staying over now and I don't want to risk them getting their hands on it naturally. :D  It seems to be a guide to a card and dice game though, using both of them, probably some variation on poker or something.

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Ringo12 wrote...

Whatever anyone says DA2 did sell well it may not have outsold Dragon Age Origins but it 2 million maybe more.


Aye, and with the reduced costs (one year dev cycle as opposed to the five years Origins took) they no doubt got greater returns per copy than they did with Origins.  I hate to say it, but if they can produce Dragon Age games of that quality every year and sell similar numbers of copies then they will make vastly more money than the five year development cycle, and so I see no reason for them to want to go back. 

Mass production over quality I'm afraid, about the only hope we have is that DA2 ends up damaging the franchise too much for them to be able to pull that off again. :(

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They are interested in generalization to appeal for wider audience. It's not about designing what games people like to play anymore. It's about designing a game that can appeal to wider audience and hence better revenue.

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FlintlockJazz wrote...

Well I am skilled with doing things one handed. :police:


Lol...your asking for it you know.

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Archaven wrote...

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They are interested in generalization to appeal for wider audience. It's not about designing what games people like to play anymore. It's about designing a game that can appeal to wider audience and hence better revenue.


Indeed, though I would have thought/hoped BioWare had more creative backbone and principle than it now seems. :/ Though I'm still very happy about the existence of passionate, no-compromise, proud of their craft studios like CD Project!

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http://i.imgur.com/E5O40.jpg

:)

Modifié par Sailor Moon, 15 mai 2011 - 12:32 .


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Wyndham711 wrote...

Indeed, though I would have thought/hoped BioWare had more creative backbone and principle than it now seems. :/


When they are shooting posts like this down with "False sense of entitlement/You are not a shareholder!" answers, it's hard to understand why they are expecting us to cheer for them.

Especially with the dev responds regarding the critique on DA2.

Us loving them is their false sense of entitlement. One can wonder how the other development teams are so different than the Dragon Age one.

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I do hate Laidlaw saying that we aren't ready for change.

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Play it on Hard!

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Khayness wrote...

Play it on Hard!


My first and every subsequent playthrough have been on Nightmare.

#1841
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Those Laidlaw reactions are really something. Simultaneously laughable, annoying, and sad.

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Bad news. The game's been postponed till July. They don't want to compete with the Fable port....

*Badum-tshh!*

Modifié par slimgrin, 15 mai 2011 - 12:53 .


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I still don't understand why Microsoft is seemingly purposefully sending their game to die against Witcher 2? What sane person (aside from the under aged) will purchase the Fable 3 port instead of Witcher 2 next week?

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slimgrin wrote...

Bad news. The game's been postponed till July. They don't want to compete with the Fable port....

*Badum-tshh!*


OHHH NOOOOO!!!!.... I will be look on guide cover until July :crying:...

Modifié par Damariel, 15 mai 2011 - 01:04 .


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Reading stuff from Obsidian designers like J E Sawyer and Chris Avellone or guys like Tomasz Gop really highlights the difference between a designer who knows and loves RPGs, and a designer like Laidlaw who is probably a very good designer, but not one who seems to really care about RPGs and about the things that make them great.

So yeah, makes me a bit sad when I read Laidlaw's interviews.

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FlintlockJazz wrote...

Well I am skilled with doing things one handed. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/policeman.png[/smilie]


Lol...your asking for it you know.


Well, if he's truly skilled with one hand, he won't need to ask for it.

:devil:

Modifié par mrcrusty, 15 mai 2011 - 01:04 .


#1846
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witchervault.ign.com/fullstory.php screens ;)

#1847
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Finally the mods closed the multiple threads took like 4 PM's!

Also what time do the Witcher forums come back online?

#1848
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probably today... if not tomorrow for sure

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Khayness wrote...

Play it on Hard!


I want Friendly Fire. Why couldn´t they include a toggle? (I read their reasons, made no sense to me besides understimating players´s intelligence). If I play through the game any more times I´ll probably fight end chapter bosses on Casual. 30 minutes kiting? No fun to me.

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Awesome! The papercraft looks alittle weird though. Any new information apart from meet the monsters?