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[BigBoss6669]

After playing this game about 3 times a week for the last ten months, I can safely say that this build stands above all other classes and builds, especially on insanity:


Sentinel:

Rank 4  Throw Field
Rank 4  Heavy Warp
Rank 4  Power Armor
Rank 1  Overload
Rank 0  Cryo Blast
Rank 4  Guardian
Rank 4  Area Drain

With:
Mattock Rifle
Tempest Sub-Machine Gun
Phalanx Pistol
Arc Projector

My reason for this conclusion is because after the firepower pack that added the mattock rifle to the game, the Sentinel became the most powerful class in the game, given the right build. Before that, it was a tie between the Vanguard, and a Solider with the Revenant. Now after the new weapon DLC, the sentinel takes over as the new number one; while the Vanguard is number two with the geth shotgun, and solider is in a virtual tie with vanguard.

The sentinel is Numero Uno for a number of reasons. Guardian allows the best cooldown reduction in the game. Area Drain is useable on about 70% of all enemies. Power armor + area drain gives commander shepard the best health+shield pool in the game; even better than a soldiers health+shield pool after reave. Heavy Warp is the battering ram that crushes foes after Miranda, Mordin, or Thane hit the enemy with their power. And throw field takes the cake, flinging a gang of enemies every three seconds.


Also, the Arc Projector is win against the collector ship ambush. Just fire off a few rounds every time a new platform shows up.

Modifié par BigBoss6669, 10 novembre 2010 - 11:11 .

[ryoldschool]

BigBoss6669 wrote...

After playing this game about 3 times a week for the last ten months, I can safely say that this build stands above all other classes and builds, especially on insanity:


Sentinel:

Rank 4  Throw Field
Rank 4  Heavy Warp
Rank 4  Power Armor
Rank 1  Overload
Rank 0  Cryo Blast
Rank 4  Guardian
Rank 4  Area Drain

With:
Mattock Rifle
Tempest Sub-Machine Gun
Phalanx Pistol
Arc Projector

Your statements above might be more believable if you said what other classes you have tested and what they were.  Then you would have to explain why your build might be better.

[sinosleep]

Mattock/widow soldier edges it IMO. The mattock in combination with AR is EASILY the most damaging weapon in the game. I mean, seriously, it's not even close, and that's without putting ammo powers into the equation.



The mattock, with ammo powers, and a 3 second CD on AR while using the widow when ever mattock ammo runs low (which on a soldier isn't all that often due to a) HUGE ammo per clip pick up ratio and RIDICULOUS damage boost due to increased rate of fire) and you get a class that can cake walk any enemy, at any time, from any distance.

[Leeroi]

Vanguard is still the fastest killer, you don't see speedruns done with any other class.

[sinosleep]

Leeroi wrote...

Vanguard is still the fastest killer, you don't see speedruns done with any other class.

Actually, yeah you do One of the fastest collector platform times I've ever seen that was WITH OUT making HEAVY use of warp explosions to blast collectors off of platforms 2 and 3 at a time while using a weapon that does FAR less dps than the mattock does. A mattock/widow soldier would CRUSH that time.

Modifié par sinosleep, 11 novembre 2010 - 12:16 .

[The Spamming Troll]

alot of this argument revolves around what difficulty level your playing on. but ill agree the soldier is prolly the fastest killer, which it should be. on any difficulty the soldier lays waste without a problem. but i think the best class combination is the widow infiltrator with stasis. stasis is the best bonus ability in my opinion. the widow is a freekin heavy weapon, not to mention slo mo scoping. cloak is a great offensive and defensive ability. i dont even play alot of infiltrator but that builds got way too much going for it.

nemesis adept
enhanced stasis
heavy singularity
unstable warp
heavy warp ammo
1 point in who the hell cares
revenant
phalanx

......thats the best build.

Modifié par The Spamming Troll, 11 novembre 2010 - 12:26 .

[Praetor Knight]

Feel the power of Blood Dragon Armor!



I'm sure the 15% Power DMG helps any ultimate build that relies on active or ammo powers.

[BigBoss6669]

ryoldschool wrote...

BigBoss6669 wrote...

After playing this game about 3 times a week for the last ten months, I can safely say that this build stands above all other classes and builds, especially on insanity:


Sentinel:

Rank 4  Throw Field
Rank 4  Heavy Warp
Rank 4  Power Armor
Rank 1  Overload
Rank 0  Cryo Blast
Rank 4  Guardian
Rank 4  Area Drain

With:
Mattock Rifle
Tempest Sub-Machine Gun
Phalanx Pistol
Arc Projector

Your statements above might be more believable if you said what other classes you have tested and what they were.  Then you would have to explain why your build might be better.

I'm sorry. I can't understand what your trying to say. I speak English.

Also, what part of I have played this game for the last 10 months, doesn't indicate, I have played all other classes


Sorry if I didn't let you all know that I played all other classes. My Mistake.

Modifié par BigBoss6669, 11 novembre 2010 - 01:06 .

[curly haired boy]

soldier does kill faster, but then again soldier's the only class that needed a +100% damage plus slo-mo buff every 3 seconds to make it competitive with the other classes and with a mattock in hand, it just feels that soldier is compensating for something...

[AvakTheAwesome]

BigBoss6669 wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

BigBoss6669 wrote...

After playing this game about 3 times a week for the last ten months, I can safely say that this build stands above all other classes and builds, especially on insanity:


Sentinel:

Rank 4  Throw Field
Rank 4  Heavy Warp
Rank 4  Power Armor
Rank 1  Overload
Rank 0  Cryo Blast
Rank 4  Guardian
Rank 4  Area Drain

With:
Mattock Rifle
Tempest Sub-Machine Gun
Phalanx Pistol
Arc Projector

Your statements above might be more believable if you said what other classes you have tested and what they were.  Then you would have to explain why your build might be better.

I'm sorry. I can't understand what your trying to say. I speak English.

Also, what part of I have played this game for the last 10 months, doesn't indicate, I have played all other classes


Sorry if I didn't let you all know that I played all other classes. My Mistake.

What you were saying there is pretty much that you haven't played any classes but Sentinel. Do you mean that you have played ME2 for 10 months as all classes?

[Miss Yuna of Atlanta]

I didn't think this board would get into a "which class is best" argument. Given the class balance in this game, this'll take days to resolve, if not weeks.

[PrinceLionheart]

I also have to concede, although Vanguard is my favorite class to play, a Widow/Mattock Soldier is just a beast in a league of it's own.

[kstarler]

Sentinels are powerful, but give me a Soldier with Heightened AR, a Mattock, and a Widow, and I will show you a clear field of battle before your Vangaurd can charge a Colossus from across the map.

/exaggeration

Seriously though; with the Mattock, the Soldier is really the champion of power gaming in ME2. I mean, when I can do what most folks do in the vids, I start to believe it's the class/weapons, and not the skills. This isn't to say the other classes aren't great and fun, but with the right setup, the soldier is pure win.

[ashwind]

Sentinels are tough and they have a good selection of power but to kill things, I would say Soldier kills the fastest - with weapons like Mattock/Widow/Revenant... the (feeling) raw power is overwhelming.

Vanguards shines when I want to skip maps to make save games for different ME3 XD - they can just charge a spawn point or tag a door to complete the map/mission so speed(skip) to complete mission wise, I find Vanguard to be the best.

Modifié par ashwind, 11 novembre 2010 - 04:31 .

[sinosleep]

Miss Yuna of Atlanta wrote...

I didn't think this board would get into a "which class is best" argument. Given the class balance in this game, this'll take days to resolve, if not weeks.

My post at least wasn't about which class is best, it's just the peferct storm of the soldier's class ability taking what's a nice weapon on every other class turning it into the most over powered weapon in the game every 3 seconds. That alone is reason enough for me to give the soldier my vote, but then he gets the widow and the GPS as well and has 2 out of 3 of them from lvl 1 which just puts it completely over the top.

Modifié par sinosleep, 11 novembre 2010 - 04:51 .

[kstarler]

sinosleep wrote...

Miss Yuna of Atlanta wrote...

I didn't think this board would get into a "which class is best" argument. Given the class balance in this game, this'll take days to resolve, if not weeks.

My post at least wasn't about which class is best, it's just the peferct storm of the soldier's class ability taking what's a nice weapon on every other class turning it into the most over powered weapon in the game every 3 seconds. That alone is reason enough for me to give the soldier my vote, but then he gets the widow and the GPS as well and has 2 out of 3 of them from lvl 1 which just puts it completely over the top.

And I can attest that the Mantis is good enough to one shot a lot of stuff in the early game with a maxed Adrenaline Rush.

[Mocker22]

First off I'll say I loved my Sentinel. They are a powerhouse and very versatile. I won't say they are the best class though. Soldier is just amazingly deadly as they have access to all of the best weapons not to mention AR and ammo powers. Vanguards are also exceptionally deadly and can kill much faster then a Sentinel if your really trying for speed.



Personally I much prefer Sentinel as a CQC character. I completely disagree with a lot of your build choices. Enery Drain is a bit redundant to me. You can use overload without using up your bonus power. Also I dont want to recharge my shields constantly. With Assault Armor I want to be close t enemes and have shields drop for the explosion. My Sentinel used GPS and I wouldn't have given it up for the mattock. Too me Area Throw was unnecesary The recharge timer, especially on a Sentinel is so quick that you can just spam it to kill husks. Vs other enemies if their protection is already down I'd rather use biotic combos then simpy throwing people around. If the baddie is in a position to get tossed off of something you dont need a high rank in throw for it to work.



Personally I like..



Unstable Warp - 4

Assalt Armor - 4

Area Overload - 4

Guardian - 4



and then split the remaining points between throw, cryo blast, and an ammo power since Sentinels don't get any naturally.

[kstarler]

Brock22 wrote...

Personally I like..

Unstable Warp - 4
Assalt Armor - 4
Area Overload - 4
Guardian - 4

and then split the remaining points between throw, cryo blast, and an ammo power since Sentinels don't get any naturally.

This seems like a good CQC build. However, why not go with Stasis for the bonus power (only need 1 point) and either go Full Cryo or Heavy Throw, since both make good fight finishers? Personally, I prefer to simply bring Jack with group Warp Ammo and 3 points in Pull for setting up combos, and I like Throw just because, well, I like Jedi powers.

[Kronner]

Sentinel - Guardian, Assault Armor, Stasis bonus talent, rest of the talents does not matter
- Shotgun training - Geth Plasma (un)Shotgun

Is THE most OP class in the game, you are indestructible, can punch anyone to death if you like. Basically a walking M1A1 with rapid fire Ion Cannon on top.

Modifié par Kronner, 11 novembre 2010 - 07:25 .

[IntrepidProdigy]

Another vote here for the widow/mattock soldier. If you want to kill even faster, level cryo ammo to squad + equip 2 smg squaddies (miranda + thane for his +50% damage) with the tempest and things get messy. Good times indeed. The soldier has the best offense in the game period.

[Simbacca]

BigBoss6669 wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

BigBoss6669 wrote...

After playing this game about 3 times a week for the last ten months, I can safely say that this build stands above all other classes and builds, especially on insanity:

Your statements above might be more believable if you said what other classes you have tested and what they were.  Then you would have to explain why your build might be better.

I'm sorry. I can't understand what your trying to say. I speak English.

Also, what part of I have played this game for the last 10 months, doesn't indicate, I have played all other classes


Sorry if I didn't let you all know that I played all other classes. My Mistake.

Did you join these forums just so you can act like an arrogant ass?  You think you're the only one here who has played the game since release?  You think just because you need the most defensive class in the game to play at peak that it's must be the same for everyone else, and no other opinion matters?  You think anyone actually should give a damn about what the most uber 7331 class in a video game is, instead of what is most fun for the individual player?  Do you think you should be given respect for it with this arrogant, look-at-me-i'm-awesome-at-a-video-game thread?  You speak english and yet can't understand plain english?

Obvious troll is obvious.  Why all you forum members post here instead of letting troll threads die, I'll never know.  It's more all of our fault than the troll's, for keeping the thread on the front page.  Let it die.

Modifié par Simbacca, 11 novembre 2010 - 03:26 .

[BigBoss6669]

Simbacca wrote...

BigBoss6669 wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

BigBoss6669 wrote...

After playing this game about 3 times a week for the last ten months, I can safely say that this build stands above all other classes and builds, especially on insanity:

Your statements above might be more believable if you said what other classes you have tested and what they were.  Then you would have to explain why your build might be better.

I'm sorry. I can't understand what your trying to say. I speak English.

Also, what part of I have played this game for the last 10 months, doesn't indicate, I have played all other classes


Sorry if I didn't let you all know that I played all other classes. My Mistake.

Did you join these forums just so you can act like an arrogant ass?  You think you're the only one here who has played the game since release?  You think just because you need the most defensive class in the game to play at peak that it's must be the same for everyone else, and no other opinion matters?  You think anyone actually should give a damn about what the most uber 7331 class in a video game is, instead of what is most fun for the individual player?  Do you think you should be given respect for it with this arrogant, look-at-me-i'm-awesome-at-a-video-game thread?  You speak english and yet can't understand plain english?

Obvious troll is obvious.  Why all you forum members post here instead of letting troll threads die, I'll never know.  It's more all of our fault than the troll's, for keeping the thread on the front page.  Let it die.

Calm down bro. I wasn't trolling.  


I was DRUNK. I'd thought i'd share my sentinel build, and coundn't quite figure out ryoldschool was saying. So I thought it was time to talk some more.


after reading the posts in this thread, I'm gonna go give the Solider mattock/widow build a shot. I'm also gonna start into a bottle of makers mark; I'll let you all know what i think of the build later this evening.

[Miss Yuna of Atlanta]

sinosleep wrote...

Miss Yuna of Atlanta wrote...

I didn't think this board would get into a "which class is best" argument. Given the class balance in this game, this'll take days to resolve, if not weeks.

My post at least wasn't about which class is best, it's just the peferct storm of the soldier's class ability taking what's a nice weapon on every other class turning it into the most over powered weapon in the game every 3 seconds. That alone is reason enough for me to give the soldier my vote, but then he gets the widow and the GPS as well and has 2 out of 3 of them from lvl 1 which just puts it completely over the top.

I wasn't criticising you or anybody else. I was just saying that the classes are so well-fleshed-out and the possibilities for builds so endless that it would take a while to reach any degree of consensus on what's most effective.

[Mocker22]

Very good point about Stasis. My Sentinel was played before lair of the sadow broker. Now that he is level 30 if I was to play him again I would g with stasis and just have a groupie with squad ammo all the time.



Also I do agree tha an evolved trow or cry is not a bd way to go. I personally prefer to spread my extra points around rather than max 1 more skill especially with a sent because of the versatility. Sentinels have such ridiculous recharge timers that Ive never felt that AoE thrw or cryo was neccesary. With the addition of stasis I culd see myself just not bothering with cryo tho *shrug* I would have to try it out.



Thnx for the good points.