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[andar91]

I prefer to play humans or elves (and this is true in D&D as well, although that additionally includes half-elves and demi-humans (aasimar, tieflings, 'n such). I have no problem with the other races, I just prefer the more humanoid ones. And I prefer their aesthetics as well (though I hope to God that elves are better looking this time around).



I doubt we would ever be forced to play anything other than human. Too many people dislike dwarves and/or elves in terms of playing as one and human is the most identifiable (and the most common) race in Dragon Age, in my opinion. It'd be neat to have the option to play as a Qunari in future installments, but that may be difficult to make work in the story.

[Helena Tylena]

PsychoBlonde wrote...

Helena Tylena wrote...

I think when it comes to fantasy 'races' (really should be species...) it's a matter of personal preference, without it being racist. I, for instance, see no appeal in playing a dwarf. Does that make me a racist against dwarves? *shrugs*

Nah, they should be races.  They aren't far enough different in DA to be considered different species (except maybe the Qunari--and we don't know about that exactly).  Now, in some games, they are different species.

I prefer to play humans, too, but I think it's more of an aesthetic choice than anything else.  The dwarves and elves generally look off to me (more off than the humans, anyway ) and I want to play a character I think looks nice.

They'd only be races if, biologically speaking, elves and dwarves are humans in everything but appearance. They're not. Dwarves seem to be naturally lyrium-infused, and elves used to be immortal.

[Cutlasskiwi]

I prefer to play elves over humans for the most part. If there will be a DA3 I hope there is the option of playing as a Qunari.

[Chaos Lord Malek]

I would actually say that they only thing i am disappointed about on DA2 , is that main character is going to be generic human race.



Considering that they improved almost everything i wanted from models(LONG HAIRS!!!) to combat, and companions having unique outfits(just like in Planescape Torment) , the only thing that remains would be to give us a completely unique character. I would very much welcome an ability to play maybe for some half-dragon or other half-race at least(Qunari could be interesting).



But that's just my opinion, i like to play a unique characters , rather then humans.

[Avatiach]

Helena Tylena wrote...

Quite a few dwarven females are actually kind of cute.

That because they don't have weird looking beards.

[JConst]

MAD WHITE HAM wrote...

you're right sir... i never could play torment (The planecapre RPG) becaus being the undead doesn't really interest me

Yep, same problem with ME2.

[Saibh]

I'll play as dwarves and elves, but more like in an experiment sort of way. I prefer playing as humans.

[KhorinShizucor]

My first choice is always elf/half-elf but if there are no elves, I don't mind playing whatever is available. I WISH we could choose our race in DA2 but I'm cool with playing just human.

[upsettingshorts]

JConst wrote...

MAD WHITE HAM wrote...

you're right sir... i never could play torment (The planecapre RPG) becaus being the undead doesn't really interest me

Yep, same problem with ME2.

Cyborg undead Shepard sees what you did there with his synthetic eyes.

[Da_Lion_Man]

YOU HUMANS ARE ALL RACIST!

[lv12medic]

I have no real preference. I like it when games have race choices, but I don't have a favorite and don't feel sad when the option is missing. I like it more when the race choice actually changes things in the game for you besides just looking different.

[Maverick827]

I'll generally enjoy playing as an Elf, but they are too short in the DA universe for me to be able to take them serious. Side-by-side cinematics when speaking to a human are just absurd; your head is almost at a ninety degree angle. It seems Elves were made short just to marginally differentiate them from the typical Elf image, but that seems to me to be a rather cheap reason to humiliate an entire race.

[Schuback]

MAD WHITE HAM wrote...

It excites me that I get to be a human in Dragon Age 2.  I always play a human in all RPG/Fantasy games.  I hate being elves, dwarves, orcs, etc...I guess I'm a racist.  oh well.

However, what are the chances that bioware in Dragon Age 3 will make us be an elf/dwarf/quinari?  Numbers show thatthe  majority of people who play rpgs tend to be human fighters.  So i'm hoping Im not forced into being a skinny **** she-elf come dragon age 3.

Great. Then DA2 is a game for you beauce you get to play a human and push the other races around. Out of my sight you elf!!..... Oh a qunari, pardon me (run!!!!!).

[Saibh]

Maverick827 wrote...

I'll generally enjoy playing as an Elf, but they are too short in the DA universe for me to be able to take them serious. Side-by-side cinematics when speaking to a human are just absurd; your head is almost at a ninety degree angle. It seems Elves were made short just to marginally differentiate them from the typical Elf image, but that seems to me to be a rather cheap reason to humiliate an entire race.

Then think about how the dwarves feel!

Honestly, it was a change I really liked. I can't even describe how much I hate elves in normal fantasy settings. The beautiful, immortal, harmonious, peaceful, stronger, wiser, swifter, most intelligent race of do-gooding light bringers. Of course they're not all like that, and I'm hyperbolizing, but I just dislike any race built around "we so perfect". If you introduce a race by listing their qualities as "better than everyone else", there's something wrong.

And the asari are like the elves of space, by the way.

[upsettingshorts]

Maverick827 wrote...

I'll generally enjoy playing as an Elf, but they are too short in the DA universe for me to be able to take them serious. Side-by-side cinematics when speaking to a human are just absurd; your head is almost at a ninety degree angle. It seems Elves were made short just to marginally differentiate them from the typical Elf image, but that seems to me to be a rather cheap reason to humiliate an entire race.

So being short is humiliating?

Saibh wrote...

And the asari are like the elves of space, by the way.

Yeah but unlike the typical elves you describe, we (as Shepard) get to see how flawed that particular generalization of Asari is up close and personal.  The Asari themselves are propped up, sure, but also thoroughly deconstructed.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 11 novembre 2010 - 09:05 .

[SpiderFan1217]

I feel the same way op. Can't ever play anything but a human. Racist Fist!

[thegreateski]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Maverick827 wrote...

I'll generally enjoy playing as an Elf, but they are too short in the DA universe for me to be able to take them serious. Side-by-side cinematics when speaking to a human are just absurd; your head is almost at a ninety degree angle. It seems Elves were made short just to marginally differentiate them from the typical Elf image, but that seems to me to be a rather cheap reason to humiliate an entire race.

So being short is humiliating?

The entire Dwarven race would like to axe you a question.

[Wulfram]

I like my CEF being short. Makes her look more heroic when she's kicking oversized human butt.

[Saibh]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Yeah but unlike the typical elves you describe, we (as Shepard) get to see how flawed that particular generalization of Asari is up close and personal.  The Asari themselves are propped up, sure, but also thoroughly deconstructed.

Which is why I don't hate any asari I see on reflex. But when I first played the game, I had to laugh at their Codex description. Considered beautiful by creatures that don't remotely resemble them (but, coincidentally, they look exactly like us)? Considered the peacekeeping diplomats, yet the strongest fighters? Have the best artists, poets, and architects? Can mate with anything? Are incredibly long-lived (I always thought that asari lifespans should be just a bit shorter)? All-female? 

They were wonderfully deconstructed, and I don't see an asari and immediately assume they're going to "act like an asari", which is an excellent achievement on the writer's part.

[upsettingshorts]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Even though I'm actually exactly the same - at least in practice - in that I choose humans almost all the time in fantasy/sci-fi settings, I'm 95% sure this thread is gettin' locked due to the inflammatory thread topic.  We'll see.

In any event I'd rate the chances at Bioware making a future game in which being a human protagonist isn't an option as slim to none.

Well I was wrong in one prediction and I can't shake the suspicion that I should probably bookmark my post for when they announce Dragon Age 3: The Qunari Adventures so I can print it out and eat it.

Saibh wrote...

They were wonderfully deconstructed, and I don't see an asari and immediately assume they're going to "act like an asari", which is an excellent achievement on the writer's part.

Indeed.  I love the Mass Effect universe.  I hope to use it as a playground for a long time. 

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 11 novembre 2010 - 09:19 .

[Special_Agent_Goodwrench]

To me, it all depends on the portrayal of the particular race in the game. Human Noble is my favorite origin as I really like the human lore in Thedas and how HN is intergrated into the story. In Oblivion, I love playing as Argonians (lizardfolk) for pretty much the same reason.



It doesn't matter to me what race I play as, as long as I find something interesting about it. If a game offers me some badass halflings with interesting looks, culture, and backstory, I'll go for them no questions asked.

[PsychoBlonde]

Helena Tylena wrote...

They'd only be races if, biologically speaking, elves and dwarves are humans in everything but appearance. They're not. Dwarves seem to be naturally lyrium-infused, and elves used to be immortal.

Dwarves are lyrium-infused since they've spent centuries living underground where everything is tainted with the stuff.  And we don't KNOW that the elves used to be immortal, just that they SAY they were.  However, the fact that all three groups can mate and produce offspring that can, themselves, mate with any member of the 3 races and produce offspring is a good (if not definitive) indicator that they're not really different biologically.

[upsettingshorts]

Isn't that more or less the technical qualification for a species? The ability to produce fertile offspring?

So unless elf-human pairs produce infertile hybrids, they're the same species. Same with any other pair. It's not like wildly different-looking humans, in terms of proportions, are unheard of. 

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 11 novembre 2010 - 09:27 .

[thegreateski]

PsychoBlonde wrote...

Helena Tylena wrote...

They'd only be races if, biologically speaking, elves and dwarves are humans in everything but appearance. They're not. Dwarves seem to be naturally lyrium-infused, and elves used to be immortal.

Dwarves are lyrium-infused since they've spent centuries living underground where everything is tainted with the stuff.  And we don't KNOW that the elves used to be immortal, just that they SAY they were.  However, the fact that all three groups can mate and produce offspring that can, themselves, mate with any member of the 3 races and produce offspring is a good (if not definitive) indicator that they're not really different biologically.

We're not that biologically different from monkeys but you don't see Monkey/Humans running around do you?

Modifié par thegreateski, 11 novembre 2010 - 09:26 .