He's right. At best you could do is recreate the body but you would basically have a vegetable. Maybe you could transfer somebody's brain to it, but I rather doubt Shepard has a copy of his brain lying around somewhere.
But haven't we been over this pointless plot feature 50 times now? Bioware really should just have put a critically injured Shepard in a coma or something if they really wanted to move the story ahead two years like that.
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Posté 12 novembre 2010 - 10:55
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Bioware really should just have put a critically injured Shepard in a coma or something if they really wanted to move the story ahead two years like that.
It was coma. It was clinical & legal death. Shepard did not really die.
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Posté 12 novembre 2010 - 11:06
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ReconTeam wrote...
He's right. At best you could do is recreate the body but you would basically have a vegetable. Maybe you could transfer somebody's brain to it, but I rather doubt Shepard has a copy of his brain lying around somewhere.
But haven't we been over this pointless plot feature 50 times now? Bioware really should just have put a critically injured Shepard in a coma or something if they really wanted to move the story ahead two years like that.
Indeed. I would have been fine with anything that would have left the brain intact and made quick arrival of medics possible.
If, for example, some vital organs were crushed and needed to be regrown from stem cells, this still would have given the two years period some credibility (if that was somehow important).
And facial reconstruction can just be a matter of some burns or whatever.
It wouldn't have been hard to come up with a decent story that still would have left Shepard on a medical table in some Cerberus facility. And everybody would have been happy. But noooooo we need a free fall from space!
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Posté 12 novembre 2010 - 11:09
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Otherwise the brain would not survive
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Posté 12 novembre 2010 - 11:40
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What I find interesting, is that his helmet is intact. While there are indications that his spine broke into two parts and that his heart was destroyed, his helmet somehow remained intact. Considering that what barriers do is to deal with the damage made by objects with high velocity flying towards you (I guess that the ground counts as one too) and then 'break' once there is not enough energy to sustain the barrier. OK, so the barriers did deal with a lot of damage, but not with all of it, since the armor was damaged to.
Which brings us to my next point, the armor, made by a lightweight material that can deal with several supersonic bullets at once, broke at the part that covers the torso. We can see that due to the part of it found in Liara's apartment and well...Legion. However, the helmet was intact.
I guess that we can say that the autopsy results suggest that Shepard fell with his back (while unconscious),broke his barriers, and torso armor, spine and thorax. Being unconsious, might also be a factor, as I remember the story of a guy who fell unconsious, and had a hurricane transfer him over a mile away.
Case closed, now back to the mystery van.
Which brings us to my next point, the armor, made by a lightweight material that can deal with several supersonic bullets at once, broke at the part that covers the torso. We can see that due to the part of it found in Liara's apartment and well...Legion. However, the helmet was intact.
I guess that we can say that the autopsy results suggest that Shepard fell with his back (while unconscious),broke his barriers, and torso armor, spine and thorax. Being unconsious, might also be a factor, as I remember the story of a guy who fell unconsious, and had a hurricane transfer him over a mile away.
Case closed, now back to the mystery van.
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Posté 13 novembre 2010 - 03:00
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Helmet being intact and at a distance is explainable by it possibly having been removed by those who found him.
What I want to know is where did she/he land on that planet? We have to go there to pick up dog tags, which are miraculously inside sealed crates, (I know, I know, they are there for us to "find" them as a game feature, not reality) yet there is nowhere that her/his body landed.
Now had she/he had a sudden flash back of being on the planet's surface at some point, THAT could have explained a lot!
I can see a scene of people bending over her/him, doing triage and by doing so explaining how she/he survived.... Here was a chance to answer all our questions that was overlooked.
As a writer, I sure as hell would have used this point to do something!
What I want to know is where did she/he land on that planet? We have to go there to pick up dog tags, which are miraculously inside sealed crates, (I know, I know, they are there for us to "find" them as a game feature, not reality) yet there is nowhere that her/his body landed.
Now had she/he had a sudden flash back of being on the planet's surface at some point, THAT could have explained a lot!
I can see a scene of people bending over her/him, doing triage and by doing so explaining how she/he survived.... Here was a chance to answer all our questions that was overlooked.
As a writer, I sure as hell would have used this point to do something!
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Posté 13 novembre 2010 - 03:09
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Googlesaurus wrote...
Archereon wrote...
Space is not cold.
Yes, it is. "Cold" is a subjective comparison.Archereon wrote...
Even if you aren't being baked by the radiation from a star (which is more intense in space, and has more of an affect because you can only cool through radiation in space), it still takes a lot longer for things to cool off in space then you'd think.
Only because there are less molecules in space for heat energy to transfer between. It's still "cold". Radiation doesn't require a specific medium to travel through.
It's still not cold in the way most people think of it*, and yes, I know why radiation is the only form of heat transfer that works in space.
*Not cold as in: You wouldn't freeze instantly, or rapidly ice over. The intense pressure difference and the suffication are the real killers in space.
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Posté 13 novembre 2010 - 03:15
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Praetor Shepard wrote...
Shep was in free fall inside the gravity well of a planet with less gravitational force then Earth. So the velocity is going to be less to reach terminal velocity.
Also, his suit more likely failed on impact not reentry. His skeleton looked severely factured but skull intact in the beginning videos.
Also here are some links where you could read about free fall and surviving:
http://www.wikihow.c...ive-a-Long-Fall
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_fall
http://www.greenharb...er/carkeet.html
And as an Alliance Marine who's to say Shep's DNA and Tissue samples aren't stored in some Lab that Cerberus later pilfered once he was declared dead?
Otherwise if his skull fractured and had brain trauma and with anymore suit failure during reentry, The Ilusive Man would have had to resort to using someone else, because without the brain no Shep.
Falling from orbit is substantially different than falling long distance. The fact is, someone in Shepard's position would not only be impossible to bring back, but impossible to recover enough of to bury in a thimble. The frictional forces experienced would burn him to ash even if he wasn't moving at all. Shields can't regulate pressure, so its goes to reason that he'd experience the full frictional force of falling, and dying...
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Posté 13 novembre 2010 - 03:38
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Shep would be completely gone if this type of death happened in real life its not like falling from 20,000 feet its far worse water at that speed is like concrete so image what ground is like in the skeletal photos we see everything broken even one of his legs below the knee is gone so that part is 100% cyborg. The injuries shown would not and could not match a real life fall from his position he would need something to slow him down after reentry if he didn't burn to ash by then the shields if strong enough would've lasted for 60seconds if not less so it protecting his body would not be possible the armor he wore would melt and burn and desinagrate less then 60 seconds. Think of shep like a meteor hitting the ground once it burns through the atmosphere and smashed into the ground what happens? It is pulverized scientist find minute little particles that would be shep particles. I don’t care what tech you’ve got nothing beyond what you saw in fifth element stands a 1% chance of bringing that back and even if they had that machine it might still be impossible.
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Posté 13 novembre 2010 - 03:48
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Archereon wrote...
Falling from orbit is substantially different than falling long distance. The fact is, someone in Shepard's position would not only be impossible to bring back, but impossible to recover enough of to bury in a thimble. The frictional forces experienced would burn him to ash even if he wasn't moving at all. Shields can't regulate pressure, so its goes to reason that he'd experience the full frictional force of falling, and dying...
This is the big sticking point with the whole "death and ressurection" scenerio as done in the game. It' s not that we can't imagine that futuristic technology could preserve/revive people that nowadays we'd consider beyond the point of no return. It's that Shepard was killed so thoroughly that any hope of revival at all, let alone (exactly as before)" goes from "science fiction-y" to "magic in space"
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Posté 13 novembre 2010 - 05:01
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Who said Shepard was in orbit? The Normandy was maneuvering in vincinity of the planet and gravity well, but that does not mean it was in orbit(especially when you consider the use of mass effect). If the Normandy wasn't in orbit then neither is Shepardwhen he gets ejected.
The reason why an orbiting object encounters such high friction is because orbital speed is usually a LOT higher than terminal velocity and the heat only happens while the objest is slowing down due to friction. If an object that did not have orbital velocity when entering the atmosphere then the heat/frictuion would not be anywhere near as bad. In otherwords, it is not a given that Shepard would have burned up competely if at all.
Damage from impact is a different matter, but we have real world examples of people actually surviving terminal velocity falls, so I do not see it as impossible that Shepard could have been revived from such an incident. Highly unlikely and would have required a god awful perfect coincidences but not impossible. The cold (of the planet) and the exotic atmoshere may have contributed to the preservation of his brain in a state that revival is possible.
As long as they are able to recover Shepards body with the brain preserved well enough(unlikely but again not impossible), then Lazerus is completely plausible. The time and money went to rebuilding his body so it could be revived while preserving the brain.
This is a 150 years in the future. Compare our ability to bring people back from the brink now compared to what was possible in 1860.
Most the people who I see claiming this is impossible don't like the plot choice to begin with. This suggests to me that they are more trying to justify thier opinion than anything else. You don't have to justify an opinion like that. Not liking the plot decision is valid no matter how plausible it is.
BTW the "why not just put him in a coma" would not have worked for the plot. Liara never would have turned to Cerberus in desperation if it was just a "coma". Shepard had to be "dead" so that only Cerberus was crazy enough to put that kind of effort into saving one man. Not to mention the critical need to have Shepard "forced" to work with Cerperus in the first place.
I know a lot of people HATE that plot decision, but that does not mean that the plot is implausible. It is perfectly acceptable to not like a plot even if it is completely plausible.
The reason why an orbiting object encounters such high friction is because orbital speed is usually a LOT higher than terminal velocity and the heat only happens while the objest is slowing down due to friction. If an object that did not have orbital velocity when entering the atmosphere then the heat/frictuion would not be anywhere near as bad. In otherwords, it is not a given that Shepard would have burned up competely if at all.
Damage from impact is a different matter, but we have real world examples of people actually surviving terminal velocity falls, so I do not see it as impossible that Shepard could have been revived from such an incident. Highly unlikely and would have required a god awful perfect coincidences but not impossible. The cold (of the planet) and the exotic atmoshere may have contributed to the preservation of his brain in a state that revival is possible.
As long as they are able to recover Shepards body with the brain preserved well enough(unlikely but again not impossible), then Lazerus is completely plausible. The time and money went to rebuilding his body so it could be revived while preserving the brain.
This is a 150 years in the future. Compare our ability to bring people back from the brink now compared to what was possible in 1860.
Most the people who I see claiming this is impossible don't like the plot choice to begin with. This suggests to me that they are more trying to justify thier opinion than anything else. You don't have to justify an opinion like that. Not liking the plot decision is valid no matter how plausible it is.
BTW the "why not just put him in a coma" would not have worked for the plot. Liara never would have turned to Cerberus in desperation if it was just a "coma". Shepard had to be "dead" so that only Cerberus was crazy enough to put that kind of effort into saving one man. Not to mention the critical need to have Shepard "forced" to work with Cerperus in the first place.
I know a lot of people HATE that plot decision, but that does not mean that the plot is implausible. It is perfectly acceptable to not like a plot even if it is completely plausible.
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Posté 13 novembre 2010 - 05:20
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Why can't you people let this die and or just accept it was nonsense? Even if TIM was Chuck Norris it wouldn't be possible. It was just some plot point that some writer thought would be cool (someone slap him) when something more plausible like a critically injured comatose would have done. It is still a great game regardless.
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Posté 13 novembre 2010 - 05:34
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Just because YOU think it is nonsense does not make it so.
Is it highly unlikely? Of course it is, but that is a long way from saying that is is impossible. And again "when something more plausible like a critically injured comatose would have done" would not have worked to get Liara to hand Shepard over to Cerberus(The Alliance or the Council could and would certainly have handled a simply "critically injured" Shepard). He has to be "dead" for Cerberus to be the only option. That is a critical plot point to the story. Without it you have a completely different plot.
Is it highly unlikely? Of course it is, but that is a long way from saying that is is impossible. And again "when something more plausible like a critically injured comatose would have done" would not have worked to get Liara to hand Shepard over to Cerberus(The Alliance or the Council could and would certainly have handled a simply "critically injured" Shepard). He has to be "dead" for Cerberus to be the only option. That is a critical plot point to the story. Without it you have a completely different plot.
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Posté 13 novembre 2010 - 05:39
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Well I understand that there are many things that seem impossible in this game or any sci fi for that matter, but I also remind myself how it took a while to prove the Earth was round and that it revolves around the Sun, so I may more readily suspend my disbelief, when something seems plausible however unlikely.
And the Human body has been shown to do amazing things and survive improbable odds. Warren MacDonald was pinned under a boulder and survived pinned for 4 to 5 days until rescued, he had his legs amputated, but kept on going.
Sinjin Eberle, a mountaineer, pulled off a 500+ pound boulder that then fell on him, pulling him down a slope, and sliding head first on Hail Peak in New Mexico, before hitting the ledge he was able to use all of his strength to lift the boulder off of his body sustaining serious injuries in the process he was airlifted and survived.
Regardless, I've tried to use the evidence found in game to build my theories and the Lazarus cut scenes show that something was left of his skull and bones to work from, so as long as his brain suffered minimal trauma his body should be rebuildable, since we are like 90% water anyway.
Also, who would have thought that Jules Verne, Nikola Tesla, Robert Heinlein and Gene
Roddenberry would have had such an impact on technological innovation and
invention, so why can't gene mods and medi-gel preserve something of
Shepard after impact?
Either way, I can't wait for my own Omni-Tool, but I'll settle for a PIP-Boy.
http://www.technovel...listPubDate.asp
http://en.wikipedia....science_fiction
And the Human body has been shown to do amazing things and survive improbable odds. Warren MacDonald was pinned under a boulder and survived pinned for 4 to 5 days until rescued, he had his legs amputated, but kept on going.
Sinjin Eberle, a mountaineer, pulled off a 500+ pound boulder that then fell on him, pulling him down a slope, and sliding head first on Hail Peak in New Mexico, before hitting the ledge he was able to use all of his strength to lift the boulder off of his body sustaining serious injuries in the process he was airlifted and survived.
Regardless, I've tried to use the evidence found in game to build my theories and the Lazarus cut scenes show that something was left of his skull and bones to work from, so as long as his brain suffered minimal trauma his body should be rebuildable, since we are like 90% water anyway.
Also, who would have thought that Jules Verne, Nikola Tesla, Robert Heinlein and Gene
Roddenberry would have had such an impact on technological innovation and
invention, so why can't gene mods and medi-gel preserve something of
Shepard after impact?
Either way, I can't wait for my own Omni-Tool, but I'll settle for a PIP-Boy.
http://www.technovel...listPubDate.asp
http://en.wikipedia....science_fiction
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Posté 13 novembre 2010 - 06:11
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I could name 589 things from each game that are impossible. Why is resurrection the only thing that bothers you?
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Posté 13 novembre 2010 - 06:47
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Praetor and Phaedon: Interesting thoughts.
There's no need disband suspension of disbelief for this.
There's no need disband suspension of disbelief for this.
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Radgen1 wrote...
Just because YOU think it is nonsense does not make it so.
Is it highly unlikely? Of course it is, but that is a long way from saying that is is impossible. And again "when something more plausible like a critically injured comatose would have done" would not have worked to get Liara to hand Shepard over to Cerberus(The Alliance or the Council could and would certainly have handled a simply "critically injured" Shepard). He has to be "dead" for Cerberus to be the only option. That is a critical plot point to the story. Without it you have a completely different plot.
What I say goes I'm afraid, you'll be taught that during reeducation. But back on subject, Shepard would still be in the same situation of Cerberus (or Liara) had found him first and put in the effort to save his life. The Systems Alliance or Council didn't care enough to even look for the wreckage of the Normandy!
Midnight_Thirty wrote...
I could name 589 things from each game that are imposible. Why is resurrection the only thing that bothers you?
Is this directed at me? If so it doesn't "bother me" to the point where I snap my disk and half and never play through again. I just think it was a pointless and foolish plot twist that could have been done much better. And if it seems like it bothers me, maybe it is just because this has been discussed to death.
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Posté 13 novembre 2010 - 07:25
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Sursion wrote...
SmokePants wrote...
Lazarus is more likely than FTL travel.
FTL is very possible.
Nope.
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Posté 13 novembre 2010 - 08:04
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iakus wrote...
Archereon wrote...
Falling from orbit is substantially different than falling long distance. The fact is, someone in Shepard's position would not only be impossible to bring back, but impossible to recover enough of to bury in a thimble. The frictional forces experienced would burn him to ash even if he wasn't moving at all. Shields can't regulate pressure, so its goes to reason that he'd experience the full frictional force of falling, and dying...
This is the big sticking point with the whole "death and ressurection" scenerio as done in the game. It' s not that we can't imagine that futuristic technology could preserve/revive people that nowadays we'd consider beyond the point of no return. It's that Shepard was killed so thoroughly that any hope of revival at all, let alone (exactly as before)" goes from "science fiction-y" to "magic in space"
Yeah once I saw him turn into that glowing ball as he decended on the planet I was kind of like
. Seriously BW that is why the "I was in a coma" cliche was invented.
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Posté 13 novembre 2010 - 08:13
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Zan51 wrote...
Helmet being intact and at a distance is explainable by it possibly having been removed by those who found him.
What I want to know is where did she/he land on that planet? We have to go there to pick up dog tags, which are miraculously inside sealed crates, (I know, I know, they are there for us to "find" them as a game feature, not reality) yet there is nowhere that her/his body landed.
Now had she/he had a sudden flash back of being on the planet's surface at some point, THAT could have explained a lot!
I can see a scene of people bending over her/him, doing triage and by doing so explaining how she/he survived.... Here was a chance to answer all our questions that was overlooked.
Well we know from the opening scene of Mass Effect, that he wasn't recovered from a flat area, which may also be a factor. And it fits with my theory of 'falling with the back and dealing all the damage'
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Posté 13 novembre 2010 - 08:19
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Slidell505 wrote...
Sursion wrote...
SmokePants wrote...
Lazarus is more likely than FTL travel.
FTL is very possible.
Nope.
Completely unrelated, but still interesting.
FTL is very possible
Zan51 wrote...
Helmet being intact and at a distance is explainable by it possibly having been removed by those who found him.
What I want to know is where did she/he land on that planet? We have to go there to pick up dog tags, which are miraculously inside sealed crates, (I know, I know, they are there for us to "find" them as a game feature, not reality) yet there is nowhere that her/his body landed.
From the Lazarus videos we see that his body crashed on a hill, which may also count as a factor since the back would take all the damage, if my theory is correct.
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Posté 13 novembre 2010 - 08:22
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Praetor Shepard wrote...
Well I understand that there are many things that seem impossible in this game or any sci fi for that matter, but I also remind myself how it took a while to prove the Earth was round and that it revolves around the Sun, so I may more readily suspend my disbelief, when something seems plausible however unlikely.
And the Human body has been shown to do amazing things and survive improbable odds. Warren MacDonald was pinned under a boulder and survived pinned for 4 to 5 days until rescued, he had his legs amputated, but kept on going.
Sinjin Eberle, a mountaineer, pulled off a 500+ pound boulder that then fell on him, pulling him down a slope, and sliding head first on Hail Peak in New Mexico, before hitting the ledge he was able to use all of his strength to lift the boulder off of his body sustaining serious injuries in the process he was airlifted and survived.
Regardless, I've tried to use the evidence found in game to build my theories and the Lazarus cut scenes show that something was left of his skull and bones to work from, so as long as his brain suffered minimal trauma his body should be rebuildable, since we are like 90% water anyway.
Also, who would have thought that Jules Verne, Nikola Tesla, Robert Heinlein and Gene
Roddenberry would have had such an impact on technological innovation and
invention, so why can't gene mods and medi-gel preserve something of
Shepard after impact?
Either way, I can't wait for my own Omni-Tool, but I'll settle for a PIP-Boy.
http://www.technovel...listPubDate.asp
http://en.wikipedia....science_fiction
If someone manages to come up with a logical explanation about this, my money is on Praetor.
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Posté 13 novembre 2010 - 01:19
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I have weird theory.
First, facts: all the dogtags of dead people lay on Alchera while Shepard's not; Alchera has big enough atmospheric pressure to keep ice from evaporising; several people don't believe in Shepard's death; TIM and Miranda, who explained us odds about Shepard's resurrection, are interested in own goals.
Speculations: Shepard's body never hit Alchera - it was catched on orbit by some kind of mass effect field, produced by unknown ship. That ship was informed about Collectors' attack and was there to capture Shepard (or his body) to give it to Collectors for studying. Maybe survivors noticed that ship.
Later, when fact that Alliance knows about unknown vessel, parts of armour were thrown on Alchera. Thrown specially in a way that everyone could find it, and rather far from each other to make everyone think that body misses because it became ash and pieces of ceramic. Alliance found one piece and decided that it was crash site, covered by massive of ice. That's why they found genuine crash site only two years later. Liara found one piece, Legion found, too.
Cerberus started to recover Shepard's body not from "meat and tubes" state, as they shown to Jacob who was supposed to be shown to Shepard later as "uninterested witness", but from rather intact state. Awakening was delayed on two years because Cerberus wanted not only resurrect Shepard, but also get valuable agent which will regain full trust from galaxy, not understanding that (s)he one day would be triggered to fully obey Cerberus orders. Maybe two years was required to produce such sophisticated and undetectable mind control technology. If so, ME3 would be a great surprise.
Yeah, I know I'm paranoid sometimes
First, facts: all the dogtags of dead people lay on Alchera while Shepard's not; Alchera has big enough atmospheric pressure to keep ice from evaporising; several people don't believe in Shepard's death; TIM and Miranda, who explained us odds about Shepard's resurrection, are interested in own goals.
Speculations: Shepard's body never hit Alchera - it was catched on orbit by some kind of mass effect field, produced by unknown ship. That ship was informed about Collectors' attack and was there to capture Shepard (or his body) to give it to Collectors for studying. Maybe survivors noticed that ship.
Later, when fact that Alliance knows about unknown vessel, parts of armour were thrown on Alchera. Thrown specially in a way that everyone could find it, and rather far from each other to make everyone think that body misses because it became ash and pieces of ceramic. Alliance found one piece and decided that it was crash site, covered by massive of ice. That's why they found genuine crash site only two years later. Liara found one piece, Legion found, too.
Cerberus started to recover Shepard's body not from "meat and tubes" state, as they shown to Jacob who was supposed to be shown to Shepard later as "uninterested witness", but from rather intact state. Awakening was delayed on two years because Cerberus wanted not only resurrect Shepard, but also get valuable agent which will regain full trust from galaxy, not understanding that (s)he one day would be triggered to fully obey Cerberus orders. Maybe two years was required to produce such sophisticated and undetectable mind control technology. If so, ME3 would be a great surprise.
Yeah, I know I'm paranoid sometimes
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Posté 13 novembre 2010 - 02:10
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Shepard was brought back through some tasty science
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Posté 14 novembre 2010 - 06:46
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Zulu_DFA wrote...
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Bioware really should just have put a critically injured Shepard in a coma or something if they really wanted to move the story ahead two years like that.
It was coma. It was clinical & legal death. Shepard did not really die.
There are statements to the contrary in the game...
