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[Cazlee]

@ Brockololly.  What If they switched gears again in DA3, and got
rid of Hawke? I dunno, I might be okay with it since the series is
officially schizophrenic now.

If we're getting a new hero for DA3, I hope we can "meet" them or even possibly shape them in DA2 to make the transition a bit smoother.

Modifié par Cazlee, 12 novembre 2010 - 07:16 .

[ErichHartmann]

What If they switched gears again in DA3, and got
rid of Hawke? I dunno, I might be okay with it since the series is
officially schizophrenic now.

Sounds like a lack of imagination on your part.  A series doesn't have to follow a direct linear line.  There are an infinite amount of stories that can be told from different points of view within the Dragon Age universe.       

Modifié par ErichHartmann, 12 novembre 2010 - 07:37 .

[Master Shiori]

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

I'm fairly certain Gaider implied that the Warden's story isn't over yet in one of these threads.

He vaguely did.

Well, he refused to confirm that we've seen the last of the Warden in Witch Hunt.

Does that mean he is bound to be back? Who knows. Anything is possible ta this point. David said that Dragon Age is about stories set in Thedas, but that doesn't mean that some stories cannot share the same protagonist.

[AtreiyaN7]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

The Warden is a Time Lord. Problem solved.

Regeneration FTW! Anyhow, being serious: David Gaider has previously said that Morrigan's story is not over. She'll be back someday, and the Warden's story is likely not over either. It's entirely possible that they'll revisit the Warden in the future.

[Boombox]

I kinda hope it is.. the Warden's story was good and all but after Awakening and the awful DLC I think it's better just to move on to new things rather than dragging it out and beating a dead horse.

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

Yes, it's been hinted that the alive warden's story is not over and it's been confirmed that Morrigan's story isn't either. I do believe that Hawk's story is a one shot deal. Unless they make DA4 (if the series goes that far) being the outcome of Hawk's actions further into Thedas and not just the Free Marches.  They are marketing Hawk's decisions as being seen ingame - you won't wait for the epilogue card at the end to see the impact of Hawk's decisions, so I'm confident Hawk's story is a one shot deal.


Why do people keep saying that their dead wardens have no continuity?  The Orlesian Warden (if you played Awakenings) picked up your dead warden's mantle and carried it forward.  Didn't your dead warden's decisions import to Awakenings with the Orlesian?   Why don't people get this?

I think WH is a continuity of Morrigan's story.  All of my warden's will have different decisions per that dlc.  My Orlesian Warden will kill Morrigan, thus ends my dead warden's story forever.   My Orlesian Warden will now go where ever the First Warden orders him to go.

Any warden's story can end from a roleplaying sense within any of the dlc except for Awakening, Leliana's Song, and DC.  

Modifié par ElvaliaRavenHart, 12 novembre 2010 - 08:17 .

[AlexXIV]

Master Shiori wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

I'm fairly certain Gaider implied that the Warden's story isn't over yet in one of these threads.

He vaguely did.

Well, he refused to confirm that we've seen the last of the Warden in Witch Hunt.

Does that mean he is bound to be back? Who knows. Anything is possible ta this point. David said that Dragon Age is about stories set in Thedas, but that doesn't mean that some stories cannot share the same protagonist.

I think it would be difficult to bring him back to 'life' as in a player character. The Bioware concept seems to be that we play a 'new' hero in every new title. A system that I personally find alien for once because I don't like a world where I am every single hero, and also because the attachment will not be as deep. People seem to move on easy from the Warden, and they will from Hawke. It would have been better in my opinion if they did DA:O the Mass Effect Way. One hero through a series of games. Doesn't need to be the Warden. But if for example Hawke had been the protagonist in DA:O already.

He would survive together with Alistair, and rally Ferelden for the battle against darkspawn. That Hawke would not be a Warden wouldn't matter much since we have Alistair to do all the Warden stuff necessary. At the end Hawke would have to leave Ferelden because after the Archdemon was slain Hawke and his family would have to flee Ferelden since the Chantry rediscovered their duty to hunt all apostates. So Hawke would be a bit like Morrigan. Tolerated when she is needed but then put on stake when the danger is over.

And why not? What is the point of playing different heroes in the same world and setting? Idk, makes no sense for me other than it is easier to start from scrap with a new hero for Bioware so they don't need to consider so many options of the prequel.

[Anexity]

Master Shiori wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

I'm fairly certain Gaider implied that the Warden's story isn't over yet in one of these threads.

He vaguely did.

Well, he refused to confirm that we've seen the last of the Warden in Witch Hunt.


Does that mean he is bound to be back? Who knows. Anything is possible
ta this point. David said that Dragon Age is about stories set in
Thedas, but that doesn't mean that some stories cannot share the same
protagonist.

The only way I see the Warden's story continuing is if they release a surprise expansion. Wasn't something DAO related suppose to come out on Feb 1st? Or did the DA2 announcement get rid of that?

If they are going to change their minds, I think it will be Hawke who's story is continued is DA3 to avoid jumping back and forth between stories.

Modifié par Anexity, 12 novembre 2010 - 07:59 .

[Maria Caliban]

Mass Effect is the story of Commander Shepard. Dragon Age is the story of Thedas. I find the first approach is more personal while the second is more epic.

[lv12medic]

I think the Warden's story is over as far as playing as the Warden I think (unless theres some magical Bioware surprise coming down the line). But the Warden's story as far as their impact on Thedas, I think not.

[Meltemph]

I don't wana be a Grey Warden anymore, I want the story to move more and more away from darkspawn and more and more into the natural world and politics of thedas and the deities/magic/mysteries that screw with them.

[the_one_54321]

Yes, the Wardens story is over.

Stop asking.

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

Meltemph wrote...

I don't wana be a Grey Warden anymore, I want the story to move more and more away from darkspawn and more and more into the natural world and politics of thedas and the deities/magic/mysteries that screw with them.

If you'd followed the lore of the game there are two old gods yet to rise, so wardens are still needed.  Unless Hawk's decisions change this.   

Many people want their warden's story to continue at least into DA3 which has already been hinted at will happen.

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

the_one_54321 wrote...

Yes, the Wardens story is over.
Stop asking.

You don't follow the head writer's threads do you? 

[AlexXIV]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Mass Effect is the story of Commander Shepard. Dragon Age is the story of Thedas. I find the first approach is more personal while the second is more epic.

Actually no. ME is more epic, as was BG2. How is making new heroes for every sequel and basically nullifying the decisions you made in the original game more epic? I don't know the story so I won't say now if DA2 is more epic than ME2, it could be, but not because they scrapped the Warden.

[Meltemph]

If you'd followed the lore of the game there are two old gods yet to rise,

Blights go very long times between each other.

so wardens are still needed.

Yes, they are still apart of the setting, but that does not mean I wana play them.

Many people want their warden's story to continue at least into DA3 which has already been hinted at will happen.

I think you are reading to much into it. You have to keep in mind that not everyone had their Warden survive, so it would be silly for Bioware to focus on the Warden. Yes, the wardens story is not "done" yet, but I would bet that it has more to do with them "filling in the blanks" and has less to do with your interaction with the Warden.



There are so many different ways for your Warden to go, so you have to take into account more then what "you" did with your warden.

[Master Shiori]

m14567 wrote...

It seems to me that the warden's story is over, I mean one of the endings has the warden dying, that is a pretty big nail in the coffin. Personally, it's a bit disappointing but I chalk that one up as tfb old chap.

Except David Gaider said there are ways he could bring a dead Warden back if he really wanted. He also said that while the story of fighting the Blight is over with DA:O, there are still things that the Warden could do.
The fact that the whole "Warden returning after DA:O" has been brought up a dozen times now and whenever Laidlaw, Gaider or some other Bioware staffer posted on the subject they always refused to either confirm or deny the possibility of the Warden's return.

Also, the Warden isn't just about Darkspawn and Blight. There is the whole Flemeth and Morrigan storyline that started in Origins and seems to be going on in DA2. The Warden has as much a personal stake in that as Hawke will probably have after DA2.

[Aumata]

I'm confuse do they mean origin warden is over, or do they mean another Warden will appear? I would have no problem if the origin warden story was over, but that doesn't mean that another warden can appear. So maybe the are eluding to that?

[Cazlee]

Wow, good point. With two more archdemons to kill, we may eventually be playing another grey warden. Although that could be set 100 years in the future.

[Wulfram]

The Warden should have had their story finished off in a good expansion pack. Since we've moved on to DA2, there isn't really a satisfactory solution so Bioware should just leave them alone.

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

Meltemph wrote...

If you'd followed the lore of the game there are two old gods yet to rise,

Blights go very long times between each other.

so wardens are still needed.

Yes, they are still apart of the setting, but that does not mean I wana play them.

Many people want their warden's story to continue at least into DA3 which has already been hinted at will happen.

I think you are reading to much into it. You have to keep in mind that not everyone had their Warden survive, so it would be silly for Bioware to focus on the Warden. Yes, the wardens story is not "done" yet, but I would bet that it has more to do with them "filling in the blanks" and has less to do with your interaction with the Warden.

There are so many different ways for your Warden to go, so you have to take into account more then what "you" did with your warden.

The head writers have hinted that the first warden's story isn't over.  Awakenings epilogue card also said it's not over.  If you role play your story being over then it's over, but others are not roleplaying that their warden's story is over.  There was an out cry from fans that DA2 was not the warden's story so I'm not reading into this.  This is a known fact on the forums and other websites that discuss DA.