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[Ironhammer500]

ok i couldnt really be bothered to read all 25 pages -.- so anyways to ans the topic question i thought hawkes story start just after lothering is destoryed or somthing so the 1st few years or however long the blight lasted the warden is doing w/e u did in origins so im guessing at certain points ull hear banter from npcs like " did u hear the grey wardens freed the circle" or somthing thats what im guessing but im sure at the begining of DA2 ull hear something if not along the game as ur progress tho i doubt the blight lasted 10 years o.o

[dragonboy12]

I have to agree with the Alistair point made by In Exile. The OGB is too big a plot device in my eyes to have made dependent on your Warden's choices. Although Morrigan doesn't seem the type to just give up on the idea of the baby and she probably would have found some other way to have it.

[nijnij]

Well, the old god baby would be nine years old by the end of Dragon Age 2 ; that seems a bit soon to find out about his/her powers ; I have the feeling that Morrigan would raise him far away from society, a bit like she was raised herself. I haven't played Witch Hunt but the

Spoiler

portal thing I've read about

definitely shows that she has no intention of coming back to Thedas before some time. I think the old god baby would be more interesting after s/he's toughened up a bit, say in Dragon Age 3 for instance ; then s/he could be the PC or villain or whatever.



If the game turns out to be moddable, I'm sure there will be plenty of fans to try and include companions and NPCs from Origins into the new engine and do some sort of Warden campaign (there are elf and dwarf models in DA2 after all ; perhaps those could be included in the character creator from the construction set if there is one). I would certainly love to see that.

[Razored1313]

personally i HOPE my wardens story is over, really in a way its a gift for it to be over. If it wasn't over then that would mean that his entire life is scripted, and that could conflict with how i wanted my story to go. this way, as long as they don't bring him back, I can decide what happens to my warden, does he continue to adventure as a wandering hero, or does he choose to settle down with leliana and start a family? its up to me now.

[nijnij]

froogle345 wrote...

personally i HOPE my wardens story is over, really in a way its a gift for it to be over. If it wasn't over then that would mean that his entire life is scripted, and that could conflict with how i wanted my story to go. this way, as long as they don't bring him back, I can decide what happens to my warden, does he continue to adventure as a wandering hero, or does he choose to settle down with leliana and start a family? its up to me now.

A wise opinion !

[Kroaks]

Wulfram wrote...

If Riordan had Rogue Hawke's acrobatic talents, landing on a flying dragon would be easy.

Basically; its not like Riordan was a normal human, he was a warden which I gather was supposed to be something special besides just sensing the darkspawn, that even in a world of conan types they were still supposed to stand out.

[Kroaks]

Brockololly wrote...

Perfect-Kenshin wrote...
The Warden ended another Blight and that is rather impressive, but since any other Warden could have done so (hell, in the game, it doesn't even have to be your Warden who takes out the Archdemon), it's impressive like winning the lottery is impressive.

Which is why the Dark Ritual Warden is even more impressive as he/she is the ONLY Warden to defeat a Blight while surviving.

You know; you have to wonder about that I mean they would had have to tested it out to know it worked I assume.....so unless their are creatures in DA that work under similiar enough conditions that using them as test subjects would pretty much tell you what you need to know.

I suspect that at least one time before this was done and the warden simply lied about what happened or faked their death.

For that matter; for all we know its been done "every" time.  Its just this time you decided to stay around or were lucky enough not to be fatally wounded in the act of personally fighting some demodragon thing in HTH combat.

[Ulicus]

I think a surviving Warden should have been called to Weisshaupt to explain/cover their ass. It would have been an easy way to get them out of the picture in time for Awakening, too, allowing the entire expansion to be crafted around the Orlesian Warden. Which I tend to believe would have made more sense.

That said, the Warden is the HERO OF FERELDEN, whether they personally finish off the Archdemon or not. Everyone recognises that it was he or she who stopped a Blight before it truly even began, and that is pretty damn impressive no matter how you want to slice it.

Any Warden could finish off the Archdemon, sure. But not any Warden could have done what our Warden did in DA:O.

Modifié par Ulicus, 29 novembre 2010 - 05:54 .

[DAO - Grey Warden]

Is the Warden's Story Over? Not!

[Heavenblade]

My warden used diplomacy with the archdemon, convincing it of the error of its ways. The story of the solitary warden may be over but the next chapter in the great story of love and life is just beginning. Can the love between the archdemon and warden remain pure, or shall jealousy and the cruelty of fate conspire to tear them apart?

[SweetPetunia86]

We will never know whether the story of the Warden is over until future Dragon Ages. I personally think that the devs gave a WTF ass ending in case they have a good idea about bringing the Warden back in the future. If they don't, they can simply say, "Well, the story is about Thedas, not just the Warden". Which is actually fine by me. I think the concept of having a new hero in different installments of DA is fine. Just give a proper ending!! You can't deliver an epic story line with great prequels to boot and give a vague ending like that. People got super attached to their PC's and NPC's!! One of the devs commented on seeing fans with the Grey Warden emblem tatooed on them!! Now that's dedication. I think the devs should be honored that every one is complaining about the matter instead of telling us the DA is about more than the Warden. I really hope that this is not the route they plan on taking in EVERY DA.

[SweetPetunia86]

AFter going back and reading some of the post David Gaider did, I have to disregard my previous statement. Gaider, you rock first off for being so cool as to answer us Warden lovers about why you devs chose the endings that you chose. Thank you for such a kick ass game. I HOPE to see the Warden in future games, if not, I trust you guys will make another wonderful storyline. RhiannonCousland forever!! Bring on the Hawke.

[shumworld]

If the Warden returns, I would crack up if he/she was a mute.

Edit:
Anyhoo. I skimed through a lot of what David Gaider had to say to us. First off I think it's amazing of him to take the time to respond to us about what is in store for our Wardens. As well as to comment both good and bad opinions some of the posters have to say in detail.

Personaly I was quite happy with how I ended my Warden's story. If I do see something I find to be a plothole, then I'll push that small negative aside and focus on the big positives of the game. If the writers feel they have a poetential story for the Warden then I'll be happy, if not then I look forward to what they felt was a better story that requires a new character.

Though if there is a story with the Warden planned for the future, I hope it doesn't cost too much nor take too long to have 12 different voice recordings possibly 14 if you count elf mages seperatly.

Best way to solve that problem. The Warden will be a mute and will comunicate with sign language. xp

Modifié par shumworld, 15 décembre 2010 - 08:00 .

[EnforcerGREG]

But if bioware did have some plan for the warden to return at a later date im sure we can all agree that with the updated engine we should be allowed to tweak are wardens appearance or start from scratch. Some good default skins would be great like recreating the wardens from the trailers

wardens calling-Malcom
Return to ostagar warden

If the warcen were to return it would be in a expansion.

He/She couldn't be mute. Have to pick from selection of voice actors.

Wonder if we could pick both parts of the conversation switching between Hawke and warden. Obviously they couldn't be in conflict at least not for long therfore they would have to team up to battle somthing.

Modifié par EnforcerGREG, 17 décembre 2010 - 02:09 .

[ISpeakTheTruth]

My Warden's story might be directly over but his story will indirectly affect Hawke during the course of his adventures. Since my Warden is going to be a Human Mage that means that he and Hawke will be cousins meaning that there will be a strong conectiong between the two (Both of them being Mages on my playthrough) Odds are he'll hear storys about my Warden and he'll approve of what he hears (My Warden was good and so will Hawke)



I'm really hoping that when you fight Flemeth that she says something like "What is it with your family? Your cousin wanted to fight me too." Things like that would really keep the connection between the two games solid.

[Ziggeh]

Didn't the devs establish that the custom faces weren't exported to DA2?



I suppose they could ask you to upload a second file for features, but I would have thought that would in itself would rather indicate they don't intend to reintroduce the warden.

[SweetPetunia86]

My thinking is,if they had the Warden come back, they could simply let us customize them and have one voice set. Who's gonna **** about some voice sets if the Warden's back? That'd be pretty ungrateful.

[Iberius]

In Exile wrote...

Brockololly wrote...
Which is why I'm bummed that its likely not going to be followed through in any way without the Warden coming back. It would have been great fodder for an expack to have a quest or something with the Wardens investigating the DR Warden. Its even hinted at at the end of Origins when you talk to Alistair or Loghain.

The problem with this is that the entire game would be predicated on the DR taking place. It's no different than having a godbaby game. Bioware would have to declare cannon to do it.

Frankly, I think the problem was Alistair. We needed another Warden who could have developed a thing for Morrigain to survive (or for Alistair to have been less antagonistic toward her, so that he could havve been seduced). That way, Bioware could lock-in the DR without overriding agency.

My hope was always a godbaby PC in DA2 with PC VO. Halfway there with Hawke, I guess.

At any rate, I'm glad they removed the Warden from the story. It was impossible for them to do justice to everyone's character, especially since Bioware seems to think players wanted to be Grey Wardens.

Everyone is focusing too much on the Warden's story. I think the Warden's story is "over/done/finished". In my opinion, it's Morrigan's story now.......if you did the dark ritual, and even if you didn't. I personally think they might bring the Warden back as a PC, but remember it is NOT his story any longer. Simply because he is in the story doesn't make him the main character. To simplify this even farther, you are PART OF a story but not THE story. I think this helps in two ways. 1.) The god baby does not necessarily need to be a main character or in the story at all because it is NOT the god baby's story either. 2)  This would make the DR itself the choice that decides Morrigan's fate. There is a baby or there is not, and the player will live with the consequences.

This being said, I think that Bioware (meaning the writers) had that whole part planned well in advance. Gaider has said multiple times they might/may/can/might not/etc. bring back the Warden. Furthermore, I know I've heard him say that they try really hard not to write themselves into corners as much as possible.

Modifié par Iberius, 19 décembre 2010 - 05:17 .

[Huntress]

The warden story is over for some, not all , fine you had relation with morrigan, WELL many did US so no BABY. IF blizzard is going to make a morrigan story is gonna be half done for alot of players that did US, I never done the US but as for 11 months thats the only side that matter deal with it. There is no canon, and awakening never happen.



A player said: "he choose to settle down with leliana and start a family? its up to me now."



You do not know leliana lol she is not going to stop doing adventures, she always ends up going somewere, maybe you left with her, but I dought to buy a house by the river and be farmers.

[Cazlee]

This thread is still alive?

Heh, with all the hype about Hawke I already forgot all about the warden.

[ilostmycookie]

I would like to see the sotry continue...But leave it for DA3



Though I would like to see charecters from DA:O be in DA2, even if its only a cameo.

[Harid]

Some people do want an ending for those whose wardens could give two ****s about Morrigan, and that option was not given. . .so I can understand why some people still want resolution, myself included.

[Enshaid]

Cazlee wrote...

This thread is still alive?
Heh, with all the hype about Hawke I already forgot all about the warden.

Warden who?

[Night Prowler76]

I would take my Warden over Hawke any day of the week.

[Pwnsaur]

Cazlee wrote...
Alright.It's just that despite playing many Bioware games, I've never been as attached to any character as I was to my wardens. Hopefully Hawke will come close.

It's just speculation, but the framed narrative and independently established NPC relationships (prior to when you 'take over' Hawke) may not lend themselves to an attachment  as personal as the player-warden relationship. I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it...