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[Haasth]

So there have been various topics about this in the past. But none of them really solved or clarified. I suspect that I can not 'romance' Leliana anymore. She is currently on a full 100 with 'Friendly'. I can't say anything to her anymore, besides asking her to tell the stories again (Listened to all of them already).

I have done her personal quest and all that.
So does this mean I somehow, by answering the more neutral / good way, have ended the possiblity of a relationship with Leliana?

[GreenSoda]

Did you romance someone else ?

Did you give Leliana the flowers ?



...you also might have screwed up on some dialogue tree, but imo it was always rather obvious what route to take and what Lelianna wanted to hear.

[Teshronesh]

I find it very interesting that on my "Morrigan" playthrough, on which i didn't care about Leliana she startet romancing me. But when i chose to do everything possible with and for her she just wants friendship...yes, really interesting. So the way to her heart is ignoring her?

[Phalzyr]

If it says freindly instead of adore then you probably can't do anything, Even without her quest done at 100 I was "adore". Then love once you know... I'll add my guess to the already mentioned things, maybe killing Jowan or one of the multiple things she dispises breaks her interest in relationship. What dialogue option you chose on certain quests including her main (I let the woman live and leave), etc. Probably one of the dialogue choices you made that might not of been directly related to her main romance thread... She believes in good at whatever cost, not neccesarily the "Greater good" just the moment. Have you ever got a - alignment message with her? Seeing you do good not just preach it might also be a factor, have her with you at all times?

I did and didn't get any - warnings (reloaded if did) and got with her right after her quest.

[Knox1776]

I think getting too involved with Morrigan early in the game means Leilani isn't interested.



I was able to get Morrigan into my tent by the first camp. Since then, I've decided Morrigan is a little too high maintenance for me, and tried to woo Leilani. She's apparently just interested in me as a friend.



I even went so far as to break it off with Morrigan and try, but no dice. So I reloaded.

[andysdead]

Teshronesh wrote...

I find it very interesting that on my "Morrigan" playthrough, on which i didn't care about Leliana she startet romancing me. But when i chose to do everything possible with and for her she just wants friendship...yes, really interesting. So the way to her heart is ignoring her?

wouldn't be the first time....

[GmanFresh]

yeah she wants what she cant have

[FlintlockJazz]

Can I ask a question myself here regarding Lel romance? Involves a spoiler though.



***Spoiler***



Can you keep her on the side if you become the king? Also, is there different degrees of 'hardening'? Noticed that you can not tell her that she's like Marj or to like killing but that you can still get her to accept that she found life in the chantry boring, and she didn't seem so bad doing so.



***End Spoiler***

[GmanFresh]

hmm no. to be with her in the end you have to romance her and not be married. the only way to become king is marry anora. and lel wont go with you.

[FlintlockJazz]

GmanFresh wrote...

hmm no. to be with her in the end you have to romance her and not be married. the only way to become king is marry anora. and lel wont go with you.

Hmm arse!  My character was hoping to have his cake and eat it.

[Haasth]

Which flowers exactly?

And no, I did not romance anyone else. Though Morrigan is on 'care' (50) currently and I just saw her talk to Alistair where apparently they talk about 'us'. Which is kind of odd, as I made absolutely no 'moves' in that regard.



As for my choices. I pretty much made all of the 'nice choices', I did not upset Leliana at any given time. I have heard that you must pick something like "I am resisting your charms" in a certain dialogue, but surely that doesn't stop the romance if you picked something else right? I didn't answer that.

[On_Slaught]

Andrastes flowers (found near windmill in Redcliffe and a few other places).



I somehow got Morrigan and Leliana to 100 (love). I think it was a bug tho. I originally had Leliana at 100 (had the convo where I had to pick one etc) and I became 100 (friendly) with morrigan.



However, the night she does the song for you at the camp, for some reason when I talked to Morrigan I got the "my tent is so cold at night" dialogue and was able to get her to "love" as well. After that I talked to leliana and nothing was diff. I hope this doesn't screw something up later down the line.

[Haasth]

Ah. Yes I did give that flower.



Perhaps I made progress here. Morrigan is on 79 (Adore) but I now got a different set of options with Leliana. She opened with "She's a lucky girl, Morrigan." now lets see if I can turn the tables here.

[FlintlockJazz]

Flirt outrageously with her, that might help.

[GmanFresh]

Leliana:

Name:  Found in:  Location:
Andraste’s Grace Flower- Redcliffe Village (near mill)
West Brecilian Forest
Elven Alienage (giant tree)
Bronze Symbol of Andraste -Chest -Lothering Chantry
Chantry Amulet Templar -Corpse -Senior Mage Quarters
Etched Silver Symbol Ruck Ortan Thaig
Golden Symbol of Andraste Legnar’s Store Orzammar Commons
Nug* Nug Wrangler Orzammar Dust Town
Silver Sword of Mercy Dwarven Vendor Random Encounter
Steel Symbol of Andraste Chest Brother Genitivi’s Home

* Can be obtained from An Idle Dwarf only after she says "those little bunny pigs are adorable"

Modifié par GmanFresh, 12 novembre 2009 - 04:49 .

[BluesMan1956]

She likes ox bones

[Haasth]

Alright. Doesn't work. If I 'decline' Morrigan's... 'offer' Leliana goes back to her old set of options. And if I do not, she merely says Morrigan is a lucky girl and ends with "I am happy for you." regardless of the choices I pick. There seems no option to turn the tables around.



Would more gifts help? Regardless of her already being on 100? Any other options?

[GmanFresh]

decline morrigan and give leliana te above listed gifts. she needs to like you more

[cooldevo]

Going after Morrigan first shouldn't change anything at all. I had Lelianna adoring me, but I got stuck in a dialogue tree. So I said screw it and got Morrigan up and was with her. Once that was finished I went back to Lelianna and she got upset at me for "two-timing" her. I told her it was over with Morrigan and apologized and she went back to adore. I still was stuck in the same dialogue tree going nowhere and had already long since given her every gift that was specifically for her. Then several game hours later as I was moving from Denerim to Orzammar with her in my party and I got attacked by a group that she said was from Marj. That started her personal quest and then after completing it I went back to camp and talked to her.  She complained about going to bed alone and wanted me to go or something to that effect. I obliged and got two romances in the one playthrough. Wasn't too hard really, just a bit confusing with Lelianna until I hit the random attack with her in my party.

Morrigan gets upset if you romance her and then talk about love. I didn't break anything off with her, just did through Lelianna and I didn't lose any loyalty from Morrigan.

Modifié par cooldevo, 12 novembre 2009 - 05:47 .

[Archonsg]

If she's at 100 and friendly I believe that you the romance is borked probably due to you paying a hell lot more attention to Morrigan. Believe it or not, the characters do have a mind, or if you want to be technical about it are coded so that if certain things happen they'll get upset and make up thier own minds about the situation. For example, I slept with both Morrigan and Lelianna, while having both at the "adore" level. This brought the two into conflict especially if you have them both in party. Thier banter started as mild flexing of claws to almost outright scratching each other's eyes out. Of course it came to a point where one or the other will force you to make a choice. While Lelianna *is* a little more patient with you, from what I understand her fear of loosing you, she isn't going to wait forever for you and Morrigan was just outright possesive and unreasonable. Then again ....Morrigan has mentioned more then a few times that she just does not share.



So I do think Lelianna in your case has already written you off as "that other woman's" plaything.

[daguest]

i have the same trouble. With a female toon i was around 70-80 approval with alistair, but never go further in relationship with him. But everyone in my team said i was flirting with him. So, when he give me a flower i told him i wasn't interested etc, earning -20 with him. Leliana was around 70 at this moment, if i talk to her before rejecting alistair she talk about my relationship with him. If i break, she have nothing to tell me.
I gave her flowers, finished her quest, and she is 100 with me. No more option. I used the console to lesser her approval to 50, then to make it to 100again, and it doesn't work. I even look the toolset, but i don't understand anything in it
So, is there anything to "reset" her or something ?

Modifié par daguest, 12 novembre 2009 - 06:13 .

[Wissenschaft]

You need to drop here approval bellow 50. Try getting it down to 20.

[daguest]

Wissenschaft wrote...

You need to drop here approval bellow 50. Try getting it down to 20.

From 20 to 100, talking to her each time i gave her a gift, and nothing new. She is just friendly.

[Haasth]

Paying more attention to Morrigan seems odd too. I had Leliana with me at all times, and Morrigan only on certain occasions. I talked to both equally much. Gave Leliana way more gifts.



But honestly, was saying "I seem to be resisting you." (Or some such) the only way to get her to be interested in you? Seems a little hard-to-get?

[daguest]

Ok i found the trick. Approval with other do not  interefere. Not really obvious, and you shouldn't miss it or you will NEVER be able to romance her.
When you finish marjolaine quest, later in camp you can talk to leliana about what you've done about marj. You will have an option to tell her "she was special for you" or something like this. She will say yes. Then you will have something like "do you feel the same for someone else ?" she will answer yes for you. Now it's straightforward, told her you feel the same. Then talk to her again, and she will talk about stars, and then,... well, you will know what to do
Finally i got her. The bad about it, it's 5h gameplay before, didn't choice "special for you" but instead "im here if you need me", and i will need to redo all the elven part + sacred urn. Damned.

Modifié par daguest, 12 novembre 2009 - 06:57 .