I gave Morrigan her feastday gifts and some other boosts, which put her at 100 approval, Warm. I have fully explored all conversation options with her, and have had no chance at romance (nor will she teach me Shapeshifting). Why is she Warm, instead of Friendly or Adore? How do I fix this?
Do Feastday gifts kill romance options?
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Maclimes
, nov. 15 2010 05:29
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Posté 15 novembre 2010 - 05:49
Liliandra Nadiar
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Some conversation choices will close the romance out. How far along are you? Have you received/completed her personal quest? What is your Warden? I know when she opens a conversation with the 'I have a thought' line, that's the trigger or kill point for her romance.
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Posté 15 novembre 2010 - 07:51
Elhanan
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Morrigan only teaches Shifting to those of a much lower Approval rating; ca.20, I guess.
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Posté 15 novembre 2010 - 10:42
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I don't know a great deal about the Morrigan romance, but the others generally require you to initiate things via various conversation choices, such as telling Alistair he's handsme or the like.
As far as being stuck at warm goes, that's just what happens when you're a) not yet in a romance, and
haven't finished their personal quest, which unlocks friendly/love.
As far as being stuck at warm goes, that's just what happens when you're a) not yet in a romance, and
haven't finished their personal quest, which unlocks friendly/love.
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Posté 15 novembre 2010 - 11:16
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It's quite possible to raise approval past the trigger range for opening romance by giving presents. You can use the pranks to adjust your approval down to where the trigger range lies.
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Posté 15 novembre 2010 - 11:59
Maclimes
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I figured out a solution.
Ironically, you can usually romance Morrigan in your first time at camp if you DON'T use feast day gifts, purely through conversation. But if you use them, it bumps you too high in approval for this to work (for some reason). I think it's because you end up maxed out at "Warm" without any more room to grow.
If this happens, though, you can sort of "reset" her by giving her the Golden Mirror. That did it for me. I bet the Black Grimoire has a similar effect.
Ironically, you can usually romance Morrigan in your first time at camp if you DON'T use feast day gifts, purely through conversation. But if you use them, it bumps you too high in approval for this to work (for some reason). I think it's because you end up maxed out at "Warm" without any more room to grow.
If this happens, though, you can sort of "reset" her by giving her the Golden Mirror. That did it for me. I bet the Black Grimoire has a similar effect.
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Posté 15 novembre 2010 - 07:51
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In every relationship, there are certain "milestones" that have to be achieved before the companion will become a love interest. Morrigan does not require high approval as she is willing to use her body to control the male Warden; when her approval becomes higher, she inadvertently develops feelings for the Warden much to her chagrin. For Alistair, you have to get his mother's amulet. For Leliana, you have to deal with Marjolaine.
Not too sure for Zevran - don't usually go for him; trying to kill me the first time we meet is a bit of a turn off. Though I do like his dialogues with my PC and other party members - the only reason I let him live.
Not too sure for Zevran - don't usually go for him; trying to kill me the first time we meet is a bit of a turn off. Though I do like his dialogues with my PC and other party members - the only reason I let him live.
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Posté 15 novembre 2010 - 11:58
Maclimes
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The achievement for romancing Zevran is called "Easy Lover" for a reason: You can bed him simply through dialogue the very first time you return to camp with him, if you pick your options right.
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Posté 16 novembre 2010 - 12:07
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Zy-El wrote...
In every relationship, there are certain "milestones" that have to be achieved before the companion will become a love interest. Morrigan does not require high approval as she is willing to use her body to control the male Warden; when her approval becomes higher, she inadvertently develops feelings for the Warden much to her chagrin. For Alistair, you have to get his mother's amulet. For Leliana, you have to deal with Marjolaine.
Not too sure for Zevran - don't usually go for him; trying to kill me the first time we meet is a bit of a turn off. Though I do like his dialogues with my PC and other party members - the only reason I let him live.
No, the romances all have places you can turn them on. Alistair has a romance starter in just about every conversation (as does zevran) -- amulet not required, though there IS a romance starter line there as well. Leliana only has two places where hers can start -- the first one is different for males and females.
In order for the romances to turn to love, you have to do their personal quest, but that's a different issue.
Modifié par ejoslin, 16 novembre 2010 - 12:08 .
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Posté 16 novembre 2010 - 03:54
Zy-El
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A romance turn-on switch in every conversation - I guess that means the guys are easier to romance.
Going back to the OP - feastday gifts can only max out approval. They cannot change a companion's status from a friend to a lover. I've noticed that when you give a big gift (+50 Approval) that the status does not change right away.
One time, I gave Lel the ugly boots and got -50 Approval (Hostile) then gave her the Fat Lute and got +50 Approval but she was still (Hostile) towards me. The actual status text changed after I talked to her and gained +2 from the conversation itself.
Going back to the OP - feastday gifts can only max out approval. They cannot change a companion's status from a friend to a lover. I've noticed that when you give a big gift (+50 Approval) that the status does not change right away.
One time, I gave Lel the ugly boots and got -50 Approval (Hostile) then gave her the Fat Lute and got +50 Approval but she was still (Hostile) towards me. The actual status text changed after I talked to her and gained +2 from the conversation itself.
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Posté 16 novembre 2010 - 05:15
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Oh, the status itself can get glitched, but it doesn't actually affect the game. The most fun one is when the status reads (Love) when it's still actually (Adore). I've had that happen with both Alistair and Zevran -- it changes nothing about the romance/friendship, however. But if you give gifts and the approval raises, the status of it doesn't change until after you've spoken with them for some weird reason.
I don't like the feastday gifts, though; I did download them, then disabled them as soon as I realized just how gamebreaking they are.
Edit: And with Alistair and Zevran, just in case you miss all the seriously obvious romance starting lines in their conversations, you get an additional one for each that is not a part of the conversations. You can ask Zevran if he stares at everyone like that, and you can tell Alistair how handsome you find him. The boys in DAO are easy!
I don't like the feastday gifts, though; I did download them, then disabled them as soon as I realized just how gamebreaking they are.
Edit: And with Alistair and Zevran, just in case you miss all the seriously obvious romance starting lines in their conversations, you get an additional one for each that is not a part of the conversations. You can ask Zevran if he stares at everyone like that, and you can tell Alistair how handsome you find him. The boys in DAO are easy!
Modifié par ejoslin, 16 novembre 2010 - 05:17 .
