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I figured out why some Mass Effect 1 fans don't like ME2!!


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Phaedon

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Archereon wrote...

mrsph wrote...

Honestly, I'm just waiting for Mass Effect 3 to come out and witness people complaining about how it is the worst game in the series and how Mass Effect 2 was the most superior game in the series.

This happens every time.


Considering that Bioware is planning to add some RPG elements back into Mass Effect 3, it might be YOU guys who are crying "RUINED FOREVER!!!"  this time B)...


It's a good thing that Bioware has a different definition of RPG elements than the one some people on these forums have. :ph34r:

Modifié par Phaedon, 19 novembre 2010 - 09:09 .


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@ssventerprise

wtf is this, i like mass effect 1 more than mass effect 2 more because of less spoilers and a better story, it has nothing to do with the music, if music to you makes a game, than that is just lame, it does help make a game but it doesnt change our opinions of comparing the first game to the second, like realy, how old are you, 5?

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the gameplay is better in mass effect 2, and like, mass effect 2 still is a great game, but its story is a bit of a downer compared to mass effect 1, that is why we dont like the STORY as much in mass effect 2, i dont see or know any mass effect 1 fan that doesnt like mass effect 2

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I don't agree. Well, I think there was a change of spirit, but it's not a darker spirit that irks me, it's the more... "epic action-packed" movie one, ME1 had a much, much more old school sci-fi feel and music than ME2 which I loved its dark feel. Plus, while I preferred the shooting mechanics in ME2, the missions and overall level design is a huge step down, the game feels more like an actual third person shooter than a rpg/shooter hybrid. If you compare ME1's and ME2's missions, you notice how everything is streamlined, lacks interaction and mini-quests, and is just corridors after corridors compared to ME1.



Plus, you can be right with good characterization, except for Shepard, he's even worse than in ME1. He has no depth at all, there's no grey road, you either are st. Peter saving the galaxy from the all consuming evil, or the worst jerk in the galaxy, where's all the choices and characterization of KOTOR? At least choices meant SOMETHING, there were consequences, now since gamers have to have everything, you give the same possibilities (and same everything) to paragon and renegade players, which is pretty much all you can be, you don't feel like making choices in conversations at all, go play KOTOR, you'll know what I mean.

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To put it in the terms of war movies:

Mass Effect 1 was Saving Private Ryan. Mass Effect 2 was Black Hawk Down: Less introspection, more splosions.

OT: M4 Pt II was indeed a great song for ME1 and I was disappointed when they didn't have something similar in the credits for ME2, but I wouldn't say that that is why we didn't like it as much.

Modifié par Mike2640, 20 novembre 2010 - 04:01 .


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haberman13 wrote...

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I suspect the reason why some ME fans dislike ME2 is just plain old resistance to change.


Maybe ...

Or, maybe its because they changed the style of game and removed a lot of systems?


That's what I said! The players are resistant to those extensive changes. :D

Just to clarify I wasn't implying that all change in ME2 was good, far from it. I was angered by some additions, but like everything in the world you soon forget how the original looked and felt. (a good example of that is facebook : for the life of me I can't remember what the user interface used to look like)
There are exceptions, of course. I still play Civ III and Alpha centauri despite CiV 5 being released, or Age of empires 2.

Modifié par deleted, 20 novembre 2010 - 09:18 .


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Here's why.

The entire experience of Mass Effect, the first game, is summed up by its credits song, M4 Part II.  It just fits the whole spirit and story of the game so well.  Right down to the shades of blue.

Mass Effect 2, on the other hand, cannot be summed up by M4 Part II.  The story is darker.  The spirit is grimmer.  The music is more brazen.  The essence of the game is different than the first, blatantly in some regards, subtly in others.  It is this shift that makes Mass Effect 2 incompatible with M4 Pt II.  

Hatred or disappointment for Mass Effect 2 from Mass Effect 1 fans has nothing to do with quality, at least on the narrative side.  It's undeniable that the writing and characterization in ME2 is just as good as it was in ME1, if not better.  This intangible shift in spirit "turned off" some ME1 fans.  Others took in in stride, seeing Mass Effect as none the worse for it, many seeing it as an improvement.  This is also why people on both sides of the argument can't quite understand why the other hates/likes ME2 so much.

So, yeah.  This randomly came to me while listening to M4 Part II.  Aweome song.:whistle:

Nope, not in my case.

The main reason I don't like ME2 is because it horribly fails logic. Then there are the cheap consequences and bad writing
...and I did like the M4 Pt II.

Modifié par AwesomeEffect2, 05 mars 2011 - 03:52 .