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[wookieeassassin]

In your opinion, why would saving the Collector base be bad/wrong decision?

[Xilizhra]

All I'll say right now is that making this topic was a bad/wrong decision. We've already got it somewhere, and this is like the fourth or fifth version of the same one made.

[AdmiralCheez]

Xil's right, there's a million and one threads like this. In answer to your question: I destroyed the base because TIM's a jerk. Plus, it was really suspicious how he chimed in at just the right time...

[GodWood]

AdmiralCheez wrote...
I destroyed the base because TIM's a jerk. Plus, it was really suspicious how he chimed in at just the right time..

Paragon logic: flawless.

[Da_Lion_Man]

I destroyed it because I like to blow **** up.

[Giggles_Manically]

Because an ending is not ending in Sci-Fi unless something goes boom?

[wookieeassassin]

Where are the other threads? If they are really old what's the harm in leaving this one?

[Xilizhra]

wookieeassassin wrote...

Where are the other threads? If they are really old what's the harm in leaving this one?

Because they balloon to triple-digit numbers of pages rehashing the exact same arguments, and eventually degenerate into people lobbing insults at each other (which funnily enough only took three replies this time), thus getting it locked.

[DarthCaine]

Maybe because Cerberus is a terrorist organization and plans to continue the Collector experiments on humans? (the latter was revealed in Retribution, though as if there was any doubt that TIM was lying)

[Da_Lion_Man]

DarthCaine wrote...

Maybe because Cerberus is a terrorist organization and plans to continue the Collector experiments on humans? (the latter was revealed in Retribution, though as if there was any doubt that TIM was lying)

Really? Those bastards!!! OMG that's messed up... but why do that when we're at the verge of extinction?

[-Skorpious-]

For the same reason why allowing premature krogan access to nuclear technology was a bad idea. The current cycle of organics cannot be trusted (TIM) with such advanced technology.

Another potential reason is the fact that the reapers may have the ability to manually control the base from their position in the galaxy - that can be a very bad thing organics.

[GodWood]

DarthCaine wrote...
Maybe because Cerberus is a terrorist organization...

Not a terrorist organization.

[Phaedon]

DarthCaine wrote...

Maybe because Cerberus is a terrorist organization and plans to continue the Collector experiments on humans? (the latter was revealed in Retribution, though as if there was any doubt that TIM was lying)

I give it 5-10 posts before some one points out that Cerberus is not a 'terrorist' organization and therefore giving them the base is a good thing.

EDIT: OH SNAP.

Modifié par Phaedon, 15 novembre 2010 - 06:47 .

[Count Viceroy]

Phaedon wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

Maybe because Cerberus is a terrorist organization and plans to continue the Collector experiments on humans? (the latter was revealed in Retribution, though as if there was any doubt that TIM was lying)

I give it 5-10 posts before some one points out that Cerberus is not a 'terrorist' organization and therefore giving them the base is a good thing.

EDIT: OH SNAP.

You lured them here, this is your fault!

If you speak of them, they come.....

Modifié par Count Viceroy, 15 novembre 2010 - 06:48 .

[ReluctantMind]

Not a terrorist organization.



Debatable, but they are certainly publicly classified as a terrorist organization by the Alliance.

[Phaedon]

Count Viceroy wrote...
You lured them here, this is your fault! [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/crying.png[/smilie]

If you speak of them, they come.....

They...they indoctrinated me.

There's no point to argue about the CB here. There's a thread about it.

Modifié par Phaedon, 15 novembre 2010 - 06:58 .

[AdmiralCheez]

GodWood wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...
I destroyed the base because TIM's a jerk. Plus, it was really suspicious how he chimed in at just the right time..

Paragon logic: flawless.

It's a video game.  I'm allowed to make stupid decisions and get away with it.

[Wolfy2449]

Cause its a bad thing to rely on technology other than your own + plus the illusive man never hidden that he could destroy all other races if it was needed to save humans therefore Illusive man=Hitler

In the next episode of mass effect 2-Illusive man decides to create his own asari reaper xD

plus i heard something that in me3 it backfires

[Count Viceroy]

Wolfy2449 wrote...

Cause its a bad thing to rely on technology other than your own

While I agree to an extent. There's tech they want us to have, ie mass relays and there's also tech they *don't* want us to have. The thanix cannon would fall into the latter category. There could very well be other "thanix " technologies on that base.

Modifié par Count Viceroy, 15 novembre 2010 - 07:07 .

[GodWood]

Wolfy2249 wrote...
plus i heard something that in me3 it backfires

I heard in ME3 Shepard dies of syphilis.

Modifié par GodWood, 15 novembre 2010 - 06:58 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

Phaedon wrote...

Count Viceroy wrote...
You lured them here, this is your fault! [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/crying.png[/smilie]

If you speak of them, they come.....

They...they indoctrinated me.

There's no point to argue about the CB here. There's a thread about it.

I agree with Phaedon here. This is effectively a Collector base discussion thread. We already have one for that.

[Dean_the_Young]

Da_Lion_Man wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

Maybe because Cerberus is a terrorist organization and plans to continue the Collector experiments on humans? (the latter was revealed in Retribution, though as if there was any doubt that TIM was lying)

Really? Those bastards!!! OMG that's messed up... but why do that when we're at the verge of extinction?

They did it on one man in order to study the effects of Reaper indoctrination and technology, which in terms of preventing extinction is a strategic plus, not a negative.

They are not going around abducting entire colonies to smoothie into Human Reaper. Or an Alien Reaper. Or any other kind of Reaper.

Modifié par Dean_the_Young, 15 novembre 2010 - 07:07 .

[Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams]

Wolfy2449 wrote...

Cause its a bad thing to rely on technology other than your own + plus the illusive man never hidden that he could destroy all other races if it was needed to save humans therefore Illusive man=Hitler
In the next episode of mass effect 2-Illusive man decides to create his own asari reaper xD
plus i heard something that in me3 it backfires

Umm...wow. Ok here goes.

1) Why is it bad to use technology you did not create? We do it all the time. You just make a statement about something being bad with no support.

2) TIM would destroy other races if it were necessary for humans to survive. Good. I would too. It's called self-preservation and it's natural. Hitler did not slaughter people because it was necessary for survival. He did it because he hated Jews. The comparison is a fallacy.

3) I want your source on it backfiring in ME3. I can answer that question for you. You have no idea because there is no information about the plot of ME3 yet.

[Phaedon]

Guys, please, CB discussion is a headache to see all over the forums. There is already a thread about it.

[Count Viceroy]

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

1) Why is it bad to use technology you did not create? We do it all the time. You just make a statement about something being bad with no support.

If you base an entire society on something someone else has created, that makes you very easily maniupulated by someone who knows the system better than you do. I'm sure there's valuable tech for us to find, like the thanix. But it's stil very dangerous. Example, reapers nudge races to develop mass effect fields, and this will lead to weapons.

Big suprise the reaper shields are immune to dreadnaught fire? I think not. They know what we're using  because they wanted us to use it, and thus means it's more easily countered.

This is what i meant about technology they want us to have, legion mentions this and hell sovreign taunts us about it as well. But there's unintended gains that can prove useful. The thanix certainly is part of that. Which is why the base should be kept. Who knows what you can find there. Unfortunatly, the game only allows you to do this on the condition that you hand it over to cerberus. Oh well. Necessary evil and all that.

Modifié par Count Viceroy, 15 novembre 2010 - 07:17 .