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Which summon is stronger/better?


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#1
Lich Larloch

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Summon # 1: Normal stock Fallen Planetar

Vorpal 25% chance save at -2

Dispells on hit

Level 25

HP 110

AC -7

Thaco 5

Unhasted attacks 3

Stats:

STR 19

DEX 15

CON 14

INT 16

WIS 16

CHAR 18

Resists:

Fire(100) Cold (100) Electricity (100) Acid (0) Magic (75) Magic Fire (50) Magic Cold (100) Slashing/piercing/crushing all =10

Spells(Please note these are modified by the Spell Revisions mod):

Remove Fear
Remove Curse
Cure Disease
Nuetralize Poison
Lesser Restoration
Flame Strike
Raise Dead
True Seeing
Insect Plague
Heal
Fire Storm
Symbol, Fear
Holy Word
Symbol, Death
Earthquake
Globe of Blades
Magic Missle
Detect invis
Flame Arrow
FireBall
Haste
Improved invis




VS

Modified Planetar:

Vorpal 5% chance saves at -6

No longer has dispel on hit ability

Level 18

HP 198

AC -3

Thaco 2

Unhasted attacks 3

Stats:

STR 19

DEX 19

CON 18

INT 18

WIS 21

CHAR 22

Resists:

Fire(100) Cold (0) Electricity (100) Acid (50) Magic (75) Magic Fire (100) Magic Cold (0) Slashing/piercing/crushing all =20

Spells(Please note these are modified by the Spell Revisions mod):

Resist Fear
Doom
Find Traps
Hold Person
Know Opponent
Silence
Break Enchantment
Contagion
Unholy Blight
Mental Domination
Poison
Cause Critical Wounds
Cloak of Fear
Flame Strike
True Seeing
Greater Command
Blade Barrier
Harm
Dolourous Decay
Fire Storm
Unholy Word


Thank you guys.

#2
Cowboy_christo

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they are too different imo



The first has better ac 1/4 to get a vorpal hit and dispel on hit which is imba but lot less hp



The resistence are practically the same imo and trading off certain resistence for other like cold for acid doesnt change anything really.



the second has less AC but more hp and a better physical resistance which make him better to tank some dmg than his counterpart lategame



spellwise you can see that hte first has mixed spell from buffing healing to dmg spell while the second has mostly offensive spells.



Personally id say the first just because of the higher chance of vorpal hit and he has Heal lol

#3
Demivrgvs

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Just to be sure you can compare things with correct stats:

* SR's Fallen Planetar doesn't have AC -3 but -7 and vanilla's one has -8 (you forgot to add DEX bonus) thus the difference is much smaller than you are thinking

* vanilla's planetar is permanently hasted, thus it has +1 attack per round compared to SR's one