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[Busomjack]

One of the things thats great about Bioware is that their games manage to sell well despite their lack of multi-player.

[the3rdbiscuit]

Busomjack wrote...

One of the things thats great about Bioware is that their games manage to sell well despite their lack of multi-player.

Single player games shouldn't have to 'manage to' sell well, they should be the pinnacle of gaming.

[Spectre 7]

slimgrin wrote...

They are the bane of gaming.

But rest assured, you'll get your multiplayer, if not from Bioware, then from just about every other major dev out there. There's no lack of multiplayer games, only quality single player ones. Of course...I cant pnw with a single player game. There's always that. 

But you never said why they are the bane of everything.

If you implied why, just come out and say it. I'm pretty dense

[Spectre 7]

Ms. Lovey Dovey wrote...

That's why I think it has to do with Mass Effect. They couldn't possibly be starting a whole new game.

I agree with this sentiment.

[InHarmsWay]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

InHarmsWay wrote...

Magnetic holsters for weapons from ME games?


Best view I could get what he's looking at. Looks like an army down below. Hundreds.

Where'd you get those images from? Is there a video of this? I'm lost.

-Polite

From the Bioware Announcement Teaser Trailer

[Busomjack]

the3rdbiscuit wrote...

Busomjack wrote...

One of the things thats great about Bioware is that their games manage to sell well despite their lack of multi-player.

Single player games shouldn't have to 'manage to' sell well, they should be the pinnacle of gaming.

I think it depends on the game really.  For a story driven RPG like Mass Effect 2, definitely.

However, some multi-player games are really fun.  Need for Speed:Hot Pursuit's online mode is some of the most fun I have had in gaming all year.

[Spectreshadow]

Maybe its an ODST like spinoff where Earth gets invaded.

[slimgrin]

Spectre 7 wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

They are the bane of gaming.

But rest assured, you'll get your multiplayer, if not from Bioware, then from just about every other major dev out there. There's no lack of multiplayer games, only quality single player ones. Of course...I cant pnw with a single player game. There's always that. 

But you never said why they are the bane of everything.

If you implied why, just come out and say it. I'm pretty dense

They are the bane of creative ideas in the gaming market, because they're all so much the same. Genres are disappearing, and new ideas are relegated to indie gamers with no real financial backing. Major devs play it safe nowadays: FPS, zombies, multiplayer - all three are here to stay. There's no end in sight to it.

And yet we get a steady barrage of threads begging Bioware to eschew their focus on highly replayable and original single player games so they can hop on the bandwagon and be like everyone else.

No thanks. 

Modifié par slimgrin, 18 novembre 2010 - 03:03 .

[RT0wn]

Shanxi or Mass Effect:Zombies.

[Zweebs]

This is clearly just a piece of what is likely to be a much larger CGI trailer. Nothing in this was recycled... it was all built from scratch. Bioware new this would be analyzed to death so they wouldn't just get sloppy with it. Everything is there for a reason.



1. I know it's been stated a thousand times but that is 100% the Incisor rifle. I don't care what color it is, but it's structure is correct down to the vary last detail.



2. He has the magnetic gun holders on his back just like the armor that shepard wears in mass effect.



3. His armor texture clearly resembles that of cerberus.



4. Pictures were posted in the new & announcements section of the mass effect forum, while the topic was locked on the dragon age forum.



5. The code pictures have clear references to the mass effect universe.



6. In the 2 previous ME games the first teasers were shown around a year before the actual releases. It's been said ME3 will be released quicker, which makes everything line up perfectly.



7. Starting a new sci fy IP in the middle of ME is stupid.



This is 100% mass effect and there are 3 plausible conclusion

1. Mass Effect 3

2. Mass Effect 2 DLC

3. Mass Effect spin off



I cannot believe some people still think that this is not ME.

[shinobi602]

Zweebs wrote...

This is clearly just a piece of what is likely to be a much larger CGI trailer. Nothing in this was recycled... it was all built from scratch. Bioware new this would be analyzed to death so they wouldn't just get sloppy with it. Everything is there for a reason.

1. I know it's been stated a thousand times but that is 100% the Incisor rifle. I don't care what color it is, but it's structure is correct down to the vary last detail.

2. He has the magnetic gun holders on his back just like the armor that shepard wears in mass effect.

3. His armor texture clearly resembles that of cerberus.

4. Pictures were posted in the new & announcements section of the mass effect forum, while the topic was locked on the dragon age forum.

5. The code pictures have clear references to the mass effect universe.

6. In the 2 previous ME games the first teasers were shown around a year before the actual releases. It's been said ME3 will be released quicker, which makes everything line up perfectly.

7. Starting a new sci fy IP in the middle of ME is stupid.

This is 100% mass effect and there are 3 plausible conclusion
1. Mass Effect 3
2. Mass Effect 2 DLC
3. Mass Effect spin off

I cannot believe some people still think that this is not ME.

This.

Also, it's not DLC. Bioware wouldn't go and make a whole CGI trailer for some DLC.

Modifié par shinobi602, 18 novembre 2010 - 03:20 .

[SmokePants]

Having a spin-off or prequel, right in the middle of Sheperd's story is an absurd idea that I won't even entertain. A new ME game has to be ME3. Or there will be riots.

Modifié par SmokePants, 18 novembre 2010 - 03:23 .

[Wonko the Sane]

  

slimgrin wrote...
They are the bane of creative ideas in the gaming market, because they're all so much the same. Genres are disappearing, and new ideas are relegated to indie gamers with no real financial backing. Major devs play it safe nowadays: FPS, zombies, multiplayer - all three are here to stay. There's no end in sight to it.

And yet we get a steady barrage of threads begging Bioware to eschew their focus on highly replayable and original single player games so they can hop on the bandwagon and be like everyone else.

No thanks. 

Just because a lot of the multiplayer games out there are boring doesn't mean that multiplayer games are inherently boring. It just means that the people making them are boring. A Bioware multiplayer game could be interesting.

[Spectre 7]

slimgrin
wrote...

They are the bane of creative ideas in the gaming market, because they're all
so much the same. Genres are disappearing, and new ideas are relegated to indie gamers with no real financial backing. Major devs play it safe nowadays: FPS,zombies, multiplayer - all three are here to stay. There's no end in sight to it.

I completely agree that there's an oversaturation of games with these elements. Just like the rhythm-genre, they've drowned the game library with the same concept over and over. It gets frustrating.

slimgrin wrote...

And yet we get a steady barrage of threads begging Bioware to eschew their
focus on highly replayable and original single player games so they can hop on the bandwagon and be like everyone else.

This part I have to disagree with. I think BioWare has shown that they have a unique approach to creating games. They've never gone for sales; if they had, they could hop on the proverbial bandwagon and make a stereotypical modern day shooter with a heavy focus on multiplayer. Hell, it’s what Medal of Honor did. The game was forgettable but still managed to sell well.

I think its BioWare's integrity to making great games that would create a worthwhile and worthy multiplayer feature. There are still games where the multiplayer feels fresh, and I think that a developer like BioWare would offer an interesting take on a game with several players involved. For example, look what they're doing with The Old Republic. They're turning a genre that I always thought of as stale into a comprehensive multiplayer experience.

So while I don't blame you for having distaste for multiplayer, I wouldn't knock it all together until we've seen what BioWare has to offer.

side note: no kidding on replayability. I've had Black Ops for a week and I've already stopped playing it in favor of another Mass Effect playthrough. I believe this will be my around my tenth.

Modifié par Spectre 7, 18 novembre 2010 - 03:25 .

[the3rdbiscuit]

slimgrin, I, for one, agree completely.

Unless there's ever a time when multiplayer can completely and seemlessly be integrated into a single player game it should never ever impede on or negatively impact single player in any way.

Integration, if done properly, could lead to fantastic games in the future, but as of now multilayer is a blight, it's stunting gaming as a whole and impeding creativity by encouraging a lack of originality.

[shinobi602]

SmokePants wrote...

Having a spin-off or prequel, right in the middle of Sheperd's story is an absurd idea that I won't even entertain. A new ME game has to be ME3. Or there will be riots.

And this also.

[Jaron Oberyn]

This doesn't look like Mass Effect. Unless it's Earth and they haven't "modernized".



-Polite

[Archereon]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

This doesn't look like Mass Effect. Unless it's Earth and they haven't "modernized".

-Polite

Wild Mass Guess: The character is a time traveller, or something.  (kidding, kidding)

Its obviously in the future considering the soldier's armor, that's not modern or earlier combat armor, and his gun is clearly based of the incisor design.

[the3rdbiscuit]

Wonko the Sane wrote...A Bioware multiplayer game could be interesting.

A BioWare multiplayer game, just like any other EA multiplayer game would conform to the current perception of what a 'good' muliplayer game is, which can only be determined by what sells, which equals no progress.

We're reaching a stage where only small studios and independant developers can push gaming in a better direction, but they'll almost always be overpowered by those with the finances to guarantee sales through marketing.

Or maybe I'm just a cynic.

[shinobi602]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

This doesn't look like Mass Effect. Unless it's Earth and they haven't "modernized".

-Polite

I don't understand, please tell how it doesn't look like Mass Effect. Almost every game site has agreed it's definitely Mass Effect related, if not most likely ME3.

[upsettingshorts]

SmokePants wrote...

Having a spin-off or prequel, right in the middle of Sheperd's story is an absurd idea that I won't even entertain. A new ME game has to be ME3. Or there will be riots.

Why would there be riots?  As long as ME3 is being developed on schedule - and there's no reason to assume it isn't - why would an additional game in the Mass Effect universe bother anyone?  

[-Skorpious-]

Confirmed Mass Effect MP spin-off

Although I am positive many will rage over this announcement, I see actually see this as a good thing for Bioware. With this game not only will Bioware be able to expand upon the lore of the series, but since one of the key components is a strong focus on MP it will likely end up boosting the enjoyability of ME3's gameplay. Plus, it will likely mean that Bioware will leave the standard ME formula essentially untouched in ME3.

Modifié par -Skorpious-, 18 novembre 2010 - 03:33 .

[Archereon]

shinobi602 wrote...

SmokePants wrote...

Having a spin-off or prequel, right in the middle of Sheperd's story is an absurd idea that I won't even entertain. A new ME game has to be ME3. Or there will be riots.

And this also.

While the fans will riot, CoD playeres looking for the next fix will celebrate (if it is, as suspected, an FPS with multiplayer).  Alternately Halo players, pissed at the fact that microsoft is holding onto the halo franchise, will come over here.

(Not saying anything about FPS players negatively, just that they tend to jump between games fast).

And honestly, there are more Halo and CoD fans than Mass Effect fans.

Modifié par Archereon, 18 novembre 2010 - 03:32 .

[Spectre 7]

the3rdbiscuit wrote...

Wonko the Sane wrote...A Bioware multiplayer game could be interesting.

A BioWare multiplayer game, just like any other EA multiplayer game would conform to the current perception of what a 'good' muliplayer game is, which can only be determined by what sells, which equals no progress.

We're reaching a stage where only small studios and independant developers can push gaming in a better direction, but they'll almost always be overpowered by those with the finances to guarantee sales through marketing.

Or maybe I'm just a cynic.

I don't think a clear EA influence has shown through on any BioWare games yet, and if I had to guess BioWare would come up with something original, as they haven't had a habit of conforming to gaming standards.