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[carnivorous]

A friend recently quit these 2 games and gave me both as a gift. I  don't know where he bought them, however. He gave me 6 discs for BG 1 (the 6th disc is the expansion) and 5 discs for BG 2 (the 5th disc is the expansion). Is there a way to tell what country the discs were from?

Thanks

Modifié par carnivorous, 27 novembre 2010 - 07:26 .

[Flamedance]

If he bought them anywhere in Europe (with exceptiions like Spain and Germany that have their own versions), they should be in UK english. The US version wasn't distributed in Europe. Only exception could be with the '4 in 1' box set where the distributor accidentally shipped a few US versions of BG2 to Europe.

[carnivorous]

The problem is that he doesn't know where it was originally bought. I think he might have bought the games used. If this is the case, only the original owner knows which country it was bought in. Unfortunately, this means I have to look at the contents of the discs to determine the country.

Modifié par carnivorous, 17 novembre 2010 - 08:43 .

[aries1001]

Do the games still have the boxes they come in? or does your friend still have the boxes? If it says ELSPA 15+ on the boxes, you have the UK version. If it says ESRB and something like M or T on the boxes you have the US version. Why should have 4 dics of Throne of Bhaal and 1 disc for the expansion? I have one dvd disc for each, I think?

[Humanoid_Taifun]

aries1001, this was the volume the games were orginally sold at. You know, in the old days, waaaayyy back, when there were no DVDs yet?

[Matuse]

My question would be: Why would it matter what version of English it is in? As stated, they are not DVD's, so it's not like you have to deal with a region code or anything. Are you worried about American slang or something?

[wise grimwald]

When patched, it doesn't matter which version you have. The patches make it playable anywhere..

Of course he could get annoyed by humor instead of humour and the like.

[Humanoid_Taifun]

I think the patch determines which text you can see. I remember accidentally installing the English patch on a non-English version and getting the English text (of course not English VO).

[aries1001]

I remember the good old days (and games) very vwell I have found my original cds of BG2, and yes, there are five of them... That'll teach me to look into things before I speak... Anyway, yes, it does matter which version you have, if you patch them. If you have a US version and uses the UK patch, the game won't get patched.

Luckily, you can now get both BG1 and BG2 on good old games....for very little money (aorund 10 US dollars, I think?)... and they're fully patched...

[carnivorous]

I actually asked GoG directly for the region of BG I and II, but nobody there has been able to give me an answer, and it's been a while. If they can give me the answer I'm looking for, I'll probably buy from them. If I just buy the GoG version without checking, I might end up wasting money for a version I don't want. As for the copy that my friend gave me, he doesn't have the box anymore. It's just a bunch of CDs in sleeves that probably didn't come with the game. And yes, these are CDs, not DVDs. I think the DVD version of the game was a re-release.

aries1001 wrote...

I remember the good old days (and games) very vwell I have found my original cds of BG2, and yes, there are five of them... That'll teach me to look into things before I speak... Anyway, yes, it does matter which version you have, if you patch them. If you have a US version and uses the UK patch, the game won't get patched.

Luckily, you can now get both BG1 and BG2 on good old games....for very little money (aorund 10 US dollars, I think?)... and they're fully patched...

Humanoid_Taifun wrote...

I think the patch determines which text you can see. I remember accidentally installing the English patch on a non-English version and getting the English text (of course not English VO).

So which one of these is correct? I actually wish the patch was strict about the region of the game that you could apply it to so that this would be a way to tell exactly what version I have. It would make life a lot easier. This could be one way to tell (aside from looking at the files on the CD). But if anybody knows something about the region based on the files on the CD, please post too!

Modifié par carnivorous, 27 novembre 2010 - 03:04 .

[mcneil_1]

The dual pack of Baldurs Gate + Tales of the Sword Coast, the Collectors Edition of Baldurs Gate 2, the Standard Retail version of Throne of Bhaal and the 4 in 1 boxset of the Baldurs Gate Series.

[carnivorous]

mcneil_1 wrote...

The dual pack of Baldurs Gate + Tales of the Sword Coast, the Collectors Edition of Baldurs Gate 2, the Standard Retail version of Throne of Bhaal and the 4 in 1 boxset of the Baldurs Gate Series.

I'm not sure what you mean. I'm still looking for more information on this.

Is it confirmed that a UK patch can't be applied to a US game?  If it can't be applied, would I  get some kind of error telling me?

Modifié par carnivorous, 27 novembre 2010 - 03:06 .

[mcneil_1]

carnivorous wrote...

mcneil_1 wrote...

The dual pack of Baldurs Gate + Tales of the Sword Coast, the Collectors Edition of Baldurs Gate 2, the Standard Retail version of Throne of Bhaal and the 4 in 1 boxset of the Baldurs Gate Series.

I'm not sure what you mean. I'm still looking for more information on this.

Is it confirmed that a UK patch can't be applied to a US  game?  If it can't be applied, would I  get some kind of error telling me?

Sorry about that, I was quickly skimming through the topic and misread the heading

Check the cd's themselves and if they have the T rating on them they are the US version.

[carnivorous]

Just my luck..the last owner of these CDs (they look like they've changed hands quite a few times) put his own labels on the discs. They're dark blue labels with printed art on them. I can't see if there's a T under the label, and I'm afraid peeling such stubborn labels will damage the discs. I tried on one disc, but all it did was leave part of the label still stuck to the disc and still opaque. I  can get the labels off, but I'll have to take a knife to them. I never thought I'd actually need to see what was UNDER the labels, because the discs are still labelled 1-5 by whoever did the art.

Modifié par carnivorous, 21 novembre 2010 - 10:09 .

[Humanoid_Taifun]

The discs are not going to break even if your installation doesn't work. Try to apply the patch, starting the game and seeing what happens. Nobody is going to die.

[DarthParametric]

carnivorous wrote...

I actually asked GoG directly for the region of BG I and II, but nobody there has been able to give me an answer, and it's been a while.

I'm doing some investigations into the differences between the original disc versions of BG2 and GOG's version for the installer of future modules of our DA BG2 mod. At first glance it would appear to me that the GOG version is the US SOA/TOB patched to 26498, but I'm still in the process of running more comprehensive file comparisons.

[Crippledcarny]

Games sound pirated.

[carnivorous]

Crippledcarny wrote...

Games sound pirated.

They are legit. I can see light blue on one of the discs where the label has worn away a bit. I can see "Forgotten Realms"  against a light blue background and wheels on some kind of cart in a different spot. That background at least could not have been made onto a burned disc. If they are pirated, whoever pirated them sure went to a lot of trouble to ensure that the picture on the disc was identical to that of a legit version.

Humanoid_Taifun wrote...

The discs are not going to break even if your installation doesn't work. Try to apply the patch, starting the game and seeing what happens. Nobody is going to die.

This might work for BG 1 and TotSC, but it won't work for BG 2 and ToB. BG 2 and ToB have the same patches for the US  English and the UK  versions. Since there's a chance it might work for BG 1 and TotSC, I'll test those and post my results.

Modifié par carnivorous, 27 novembre 2010 - 03:30 .

[Crippledcarny]

Sorry, I just don't get why someone would put labels on a non pirated/backed up disc.

[Humanoid_Taifun]

The same reason people think that one picture looks better than another. Taste.

[carnivorous]

My tests show that the patch does not in any way help to determine what version of BG 1 I have. The international patch, for example, allowed me to choose between several languages instead of telling me that the language I  picked didn't correspond to my installation of the game.

Modifié par carnivorous, 27 novembre 2010 - 03:23 .

[TheJadedMieu]

I still don't understand why you care. The version of the patch you install for BG1 sets the region for that, and the English patch for BG2 works on either version. I live in the US and got the UK version of the 4 in 1 Boxset, and everything worked out fine.

[carnivorous]

Problem solved. I  got a label off one of the BG 2 discs. It's clearly a US  version because it shows the "T"  rating. I'm going to do the same for the BG 1 discs. The disc still works too, which is good. I had to use a lot of tape to get all the glue off, but it didn't destroy the original picture under the label. Thanks for the replies.