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#1151
Deinonychus

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Maybe the red herring is a red herring lol

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FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

What's your best guess on this new hint, EatChildren?


Absolutely no idea at all, other than the obvious meaning of the term 'red herring'. Some part of this whole tease has been a red herring. We've been fed a lie, false information, or a deliberate distraction somewhere.

It could be anything. Maybe all these supposed Mass Effect clues are the red herrings, and its really not Mass Effect related at all. Maybe it is Mass Effect related, but the natural assumption that most people would have (Mass Effect 3) is wrong, and that it is indeed a Mass Effect spin-off. Maybe its neither of these, and instead one of the clues we got earlier that was a red herring. Maybe one of the clues doesnt fit. M16? London? The Clash? Who knows.

Its all up in the air at this point, as far as I'm concerned, and I wont be surprised if this is the last clue BioWare reveal until the actual even this coming weekend.

Pepper4 wrote...

Then  the whole teasing is sorta pointless, cuz of what I explained in my first post


True that, but who knows what BioWare have going on :P.

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Fiery Phoenix

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Lots of maybes.

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2kgnsiika

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I feel a little anxious about the whole thing, because



a) If it is ME-related, it should be obvious from the Incisor alone. Too obvious, in fact. Why release anything else when the picture alone would suffice?



B) If it's not ME-related, then BW are seriously incompetent. You shouldn't recycle resources this recognizable from another franchise. It completely ruins the immersion if it's not ME. They could just as well give him a lightsaber.



So, my greatest fear is that B) is true. As a rabid fan of all things made by BioWare, I would be seriously disappointed.

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Guys, remember, it is a ME game.

BW Montreal is working on 'expanding the ME universe.'

Modifié par Phaedon, 06 décembre 2010 - 07:20 .


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2kgnsiika wrote...

B) If it's not ME-related, then BW are seriously incompetent. You shouldn't recycle resources this recognizable from another franchise. It completely ruins the immersion if it's not ME. They could just as well give him a lightsaber.


Under the hypothetical that it is not Mass Effect related, its always possible that the Incisor was deliberately put there to be a red herring in the teaser. We know the short video we've seen is part of a much larger video, but for all we know the character in the teaser could be an insignificant nobody quickly picked off.

If thats the case, the Incisor would not be on screen for long, and would serve its purpose as a Mass Effect red herring in the teaser we've seen.

That is, as I said, under the hypothetical that its not Mass Effect related, and deliberately a red herrin.

I'm still pretty convinced it will be Mass Effect related. But as much as I love me some err, ME, I'd dig a surprise as well.

Phaedon wrote...

Guys, remember, it is a ME game.

BW Montral is working on the ME universe.


Indeed, but this is not neccessarily Montreal's game. As others have pointed out, Montreal is a pretty small studio, so whatever they're doing / have done has to have involved Edmonton or someone else as well.

Modifié par EatChildren, 06 décembre 2010 - 07:21 .


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Phaedon wrote...

BW Montral is working on the ME universe.

Can you please post your source?
As far as I know, the only thing we know for almost certain is that they are working on a multiplayer game/component

Modifié par Pepper4, 06 décembre 2010 - 07:22 .


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Pepper4 wrote...

Can you please post your source?
As far as I know, the only thing we know for almost certain is that they are working on a multiplayer game/component


Check my thread here for Montreal's history.

Two incidents confirmed they are working on something Mass Effect related. The first was Manveer Heir, an ex-Raven developer, joining the team as a lead level designer. He joined Montreal, then confirmed that the project he would be working on was something related to Mass Effect. The second instance was when the announcement came that Montreal would be doubling its staff. During the announcement they also mentioned that they would be doubling their efforts towards whatever comes next for Mass Effect.

So yeah. Montreal are, without a doubt, working on Mass Effect something. Not surprising really. The studio was founded by a lot of Mass Effect devs, and did tons of work on Mass Effect 2.

Modifié par EatChildren, 06 décembre 2010 - 07:27 .


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Xephyr829

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It would be awesome if it was a ME2 expansion pack similar to DA Awakening.

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Huh, what's this new one? Red Herring?

Red herring can also mean "Soldier" or in some other parts of the world "Squaddie" or squad mate/recruit.

Interesting.

Modifié par Troodon80, 06 décembre 2010 - 07:36 .


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Pepper4

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EatChildren wrote...

Pepper4 wrote...

Can you please post your source?
As far as I know, the only thing we know for almost certain is that they are working on a multiplayer game/component


Check my thread here for Montreal's history.

Two incidents confirmed they are working on something Mass Effect related. The first was Manveer Heir, an ex-Raven developer, joining the team as a lead level designer. He joined Montreal, then confirmed that the project he would be working on was something related to Mass Effect. The second instance was when the announcement came that Montreal would be doubling its staff. During the announcement they also mentioned that they would be doubling their efforts towards whatever comes next for Mass Effect.

So yeah. Montreal are, without a doubt, working on Mass Effect something. Not surprising really. The studio was founded by a lot of Mass Effect devs, and did tons of work on Mass Effect 2.

thx

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If it's of any significance, the actual red herring jpeg image could just be a "red herring trick" that has no importance at all. Maybe the clue is pointing to the Hypermania company that is hosting the image. Hypermania is in the UK, just like all the other clues point to. I don't see why out of all the pictures of red herrings all over the net, BioWare would use one hosted by a random commercial picture company from the UK.



So it could just be another reference to the UK again.

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Is it possible to watch VGA Awards on some livestream?

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Troodon80 wrote...

Huh, what's this new one? Red Herring?

Red herring can also mean "Soldier" or in some other parts of the world "Squaddie" or squad mate/recruit.

Interesting.


This connects to my thoughts that the guy in the screen is a british special services agent who is a squaddie in ME3.

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Dudes...

Herring - Fish - On the Presidium - Krogan :D



Mass Effect: Krogan Rebellions. You read it first here. Lock the thread.

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Phaedon

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EatChildren wrote...
Indeed, but this is not neccessarily Montreal's game. As others have pointed out, Montreal is a pretty small studio, so whatever they're doing / have done has to have involved Edmonton or someone else as well.


I was under the impression that there were articles around September about how Montreal is working on a new game, though.

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red herring: they bluffed. something was a lie.

the fish is there just to make it funny.



my bet is on the incisor being the red herring, because it was the most solid piece of evidence we had for this being mass effect. bioware reused the model as a placeholder for some other rifle, most likely not realizing how quickly that wiuld be figured out. the game is not ME related. why else would they flat out TELL us that something was a red herring?

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AngusJimiKeith wrote...

red herring: they bluffed. something was a lie.
the fish is there just to make it funny.

my bet is on the incisor being the red herring, because it was the most solid piece of evidence we had for this being mass effect. bioware reused the model as a placeholder for some other rifle, most likely not realizing how quickly that wiuld be figured out. the game is not ME related. why else would they flat out TELL us that something was a red herring?


You're saying this is fishy? uhmm

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Can't wait

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AngusJimiKeith

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BlazePT wrote...

AngusJimiKeith wrote...

red herring: they bluffed. something was a lie.
the fish is there just to make it funny.

my bet is on the incisor being the red herring, because it was the most solid piece of evidence we had for this being mass effect. bioware reused the model as a placeholder for some other rifle, most likely not realizing how quickly that wiuld be figured out. the game is not ME related. why else would they flat out TELL us that something was a red herring?


You're saying this is fishy? uhmm


very punny.

and yes. at this point, i think Bioware is messing with our heads. either for fun or as a way to mask their own mistake.

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My guess is they simply saw this discussion being pretty much over, with our having reached more or less the consensus that it's either ME 3 or ME 2.5 and wanted to stir it up a little before Saturday's big reveal. But since they didn't want to give us anymore real clues, seeing how we're probably already far too close to the actual solution, they gave us a red herring to pick apart.

So I think the red herring doesn't refer to one of the other clues being a diversion, but contains the red-herringness in itself, straight an simple.



My money's still on ME 3, as it seems like madness for a studio to introduce another IP when they already have three highly anticipated games in the oven for the next fiscal year. At some point they'd have to worry about becoming their own competition. ME 2.5 seems somewhat less likely to me considering that the sniper seems to be in a warzone-turned earth, which is something they'd probably save for the finale. But we'll know soon enough.

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I think Earth itself is the Red Herring.

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No. All the vague references get us to think the new game isn't Mass Effect, while in reality it definitely IS.



Hence the red herring picture...

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AngusJimiKeith

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could be the Clash cover too. i mean, the specluation on that one (myself included) was insane. all I actually got out of it was an excuse to listen to the album straight through :P

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..unless all five previous posts were red herrings...



There is a book called five red herrings I think. Maybe the whole thing has been to throw attention. Probably a little bit to elaborate for a diversion, but still an idea.