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[AngusJimiKeith]

nukes are not a line of defence...you do not "defend" with a nuke. you attack.

[scarface71795]

Dazaster Dellus wrote...

The creatures on earth may be a new enemy all together. I mean, The guy says he doesn't know "what they are" right after he snipes the thing. I am guessing he knows what a husk is seeing as how the Alliance and almost everyone else knows what they are. Plus at the angle that thing fell at when he shot it, it looks to have been running quite fast. Though it could be an even more advanced husk. So many possibilities.

I think he was talking about the Reapers
I'm anxious to see what the Council has to say about this:police:

[Dazaster Dellus]

I love how Shepard is just watching the Earth get tagged. He's all like "Wait for it!.......Wait for it!....Ok now" and then he slowly walks away. I bet the people on Earth are thinkin "Hey, no rush for help down here or anything!

[AngusJimiKeith]

"earth suddenely went missing? there is just a heap of ash left where it once was? we have dismissed those claims!!!"

*shepard holds up picture of earth burning and surrounded by reapers*

"uhhhhhhh........................."

[N085]

AngusJimiKeith wrote...

nukes are not a line of defence...you do not "defend" with a nuke. you attack.

Nukes could also be used as a line of defence! 

[stwu]

I wonder if the british guy is gonna be a playable character?



I was hoping to get to earth but this is just wrong, hope Shep has an ace in the hole!



Either way whooohoo!

[AngusJimiKeith]

yes, but not in a traditional sense.

you dont not use nukes to create the proverbial "line in the sand".

you use them with the intent of killing as many people as possible. that defines an offensive weapon.

they still can be used defensively, they just werent designed for it.

[Stormy-B]

scarface71795 wrote...

Stormy-B wrote...

@AngusJimiKeith: Well, chances are that nuclear stockpiles would have been dismantled by that time since it simply is to expensive to maintain and use it in when there are mass accelerators that are at the very least "cleaner" than nukes.
Using it is one thing, using it in an effective way is a totally other. Chances are that detonating a nuke in space might do nothing to a reaper, so it needs to be used in atmosphere to get the heat and blastwave. That means dealing with radioactive fallout etc etc... I'm not totally discounting nukes, but I think BioWare's got something snazzy in store for us to go reaperbashing with comes winter 2011

I'm willing to destroy London to kill six Reapers.

Sounds like a fair trade. Let's do that in every city that's attacked. Flawless plan

[N085]

Im giving up and agreeing to disagree because you don't seem to be grasping what i'm getting at.

[AngusJimiKeith]

not NYC. yankee stadium is too important
although the fireworks show would be spectacular from my backyard.........
regardless, im starting to stockpile my weapons now. TO THE ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE STASH!!!!!!!

EDIT: @ NO85: i get it. im just being a pain in the ass. realistically, nukes are "out there". they could be a dud or an ace up our collective sleeve.

Modifié par AngusJimiKeith, 12 décembre 2010 - 04:09 .

[Dazaster Dellus]

scarface71795 wrote...

Dazaster Dellus wrote...

The creatures on earth may be a new enemy all together. I mean, The guy says he doesn't know "what they are" right after he snipes the thing. I am guessing he knows what a husk is seeing as how the Alliance and almost everyone else knows what they are. Plus at the angle that thing fell at when he shot it, it looks to have been running quite fast. Though it could be an even more advanced husk. So many possibilities.

I think he was talking about the Reapers
I'm anxious to see what the Council has to say about this:police:

Yeah, I also assumed this but..... Given that the Citadel was attacked by a Reaper(Even though it was covered up) everyone still knows with the ship looks like. So he should already know that the ship is a supposed Reaper. Also, even if he didn't know they(the ships) were Reapers I wouldn't think he would refer to the ships as "they". He would just refer to them as ships and maybe think that the creatures on the ground were flying them. But, seeing as how he has some type of bad ass combat training and is able to shoot the mystery creature from miles away, while being injured and while the thing was moving at a high rate of speed, I would guess that whoever he works with or for has a pretty good handle on at least some useful information. Plus he knows Shepard. So I can't belive he is that oblivious to what is going on.

[Zack56]

AngusJimiKeith wrote...

"earth suddenely went missing? there is just a heap of ash left where it once was? we have dismissed those claims!!!"
*shepard holds up picture of earth burning and surrounded by reapers*
"uhhhhhhh........................."

I just hope in ME3 that we get to tell the counsil a big, fat, "I TOLLED YA SO!!!!"

[AngusJimiKeith]

"I KNOW YOU FEEL THIS!"

"yeah, harby, come here for a sec."

"WHAT NOW????"

*indroduces harbinger to turian counciler*

"dont be ridiculous, shepard. this is clearly just a myth to convince the geth to follow saren."

*harbinger fries councillor*

"...or not..."

[Dazaster Dellus]

All this stuff about Nukes.....Haha! Are you all forgeting that they are machines. With very powerful shields. If using a bunch of Nukes was the simple solution I doubt they would have wiped out the galaxy as many times as they have, especially seeing as how the other civilizations were more advanced. Using a bunch of Nukes on, around or near Earth would just make the planet desolate and uninhabitable.

[Stormy-B]

AngusJimiKeith wrote...

"earth suddenely went missing? there is just a heap of ash left where it once was? we have dismissed those claims!!!"
*shepard holds up picture of earth burning and surrounded by reapers*
"uhhhhhhh........................."

Turian councillor: "This picture has been shopped, I can tell from seeing some shopped pictures in my time and from some of the pixels..."

[AngusJimiKeith]

their "shields" are kinetic barriers. nukes are not kinetic weapons at all. in any way. nukes would bypass them. and im not saying spam them on every reaper. im saying use one or two on a couple of reapers to f*** with their mechanical heads until shepard shows up.

[XGCFriedchicken]

scarface71795 wrote...

Dazaster Dellus wrote...

The creatures on earth may be a new enemy all together. I mean, The guy says he doesn't know "what they are" right after he snipes the thing. I am guessing he knows what a husk is seeing as how the Alliance and almost everyone else knows what they are. Plus at the angle that thing fell at when he shot it, it looks to have been running quite fast. Though it could be an even more advanced husk. So many possibilities.

I think he was talking about the Reapers
I'm anxious to see what the Council has to say about this:police:

Well they are obviously going to dismiss that claim. Until the reapers are sitting on their doorstep

[Zandercode]

About the 9 million dead thing - isn't it possible he's just talking about London alone?

[AngusJimiKeith]

Zandercode wrote...

About the 9 million dead thing - isn't it possible he's just talking about London alone?

i believe that he is. the reapers are known to be slow and meticulous....but not THAT slow.

[scarface71795]

XGCFriedchicken wrote...

scarface71795 wrote...

Dazaster Dellus wrote...

The creatures on earth may be a new enemy all together. I mean, The guy says he doesn't know "what they are" right after he snipes the thing. I am guessing he knows what a husk is seeing as how the Alliance and almost everyone else knows what they are. Plus at the angle that thing fell at when he shot it, it looks to have been running quite fast. Though it could be an even more advanced husk. So many possibilities.

I think he was talking about the Reapers
I'm anxious to see what the Council has to say about this:police:

Well they are obviously going to dismiss that claim. Until the reapers are sitting on their doorstep

ME1?

[Dazaster Dellus]

I know what their shields are. But they still defelect weaponry/projectiles. Why do you think in ME1 they had to wait until Sovereigns barrier was down to hit it. A Nuclear warhead is still encased in a "skeleton". It would never make it through the shields. The only thing they could do is detonate it near a Reaper. Even if they do that it would do nothing because a Nuke is a weapon that derives it's massive power from Thermo Nuclear Reactions. Heat, Force, Radiation! And unless I am mistaken that really wouldn't do much to a machine from a distance. Now an EMP on the other hand "might" be different story. I think you may have your weapons confused.

[scarface71795]

AngusJimiKeith wrote...

yes, but not in a traditional sense.
you dont not use nukes to create the proverbial "line in the sand".
you use them with the intent of killing as many people as possible. that defines an offensive weapon.
they still can be used defensively, they just werent designed for it.

The Frontlines game had a part where a massive elite tank battalion was closing in on Moscow and they nuked the **** out of them twice and took out 90% of them
Pretty good defensive weapon if you use it right

[babies8mydingo]

Dazaster Dellus wrote...
 a Nuke is a weapon that derives it's massive power from Thermo Nuclear Reactions. Heat, Force, Radiation! And unless I am mistaken that really wouldn't do much to a machine from a distance. Now an EMP on the other hand "might" be different story. I think you may have your weapons confused.

Nukes create a powerful Electromagnetic pulse, part of that radiation emited from the reaction that you mentioned.

Also it should take a lot more than a few nukes to stop the Reapers or they never would've wiped out countless highly advanced civilisations.

Modifié par babies8mydingo, 12 décembre 2010 - 04:33 .

[AngusJimiKeith]

what kind of distance are you talking? the effective range on nukes is HUGE. kinetic barriers are close to the reaper, not kilometers away. if that were the case, the alliance ships in ME1 wouldnt even be able to get close to sovreign. the heat would still work.



ALSO: emp is the basis of my nuke theory. EMPs COME FROM nuclear detonations. sure, theres other ways to create them, but nukes do indeed relase EMP, with the added benefit of melting away the hull.

[scarface71795]

Stormy-B wrote...

scarface71795 wrote...

Stormy-B wrote...

@AngusJimiKeith: Well, chances are that nuclear stockpiles would have been dismantled by that time since it simply is to expensive to maintain and use it in when there are mass accelerators that are at the very least "cleaner" than nukes.
Using it is one thing, using it in an effective way is a totally other. Chances are that detonating a nuke in space might do nothing to a reaper, so it needs to be used in atmosphere to get the heat and blastwave. That means dealing with radioactive fallout etc etc... I'm not totally discounting nukes, but I think BioWare's got something snazzy in store for us to go reaperbashing with comes winter 2011

I'm willing to destroy London to kill six Reapers.

Sounds like a fair trade. Let's do that in every city that's attacked. Flawless plan

Depends how many there are
If there are a thousand with the same attacking each city which probably has been mostly abandoned 
Then it's a good strategy, if there are hundreds of thousands then it's time to bug out and nuke the entire site from orbit
It's the only way to be sure
Game over man. game over(pun intended)<_<