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#51
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Fair play mate, thats a fair bit of research and thought, but it if it is ME3, that aint Shepard, and the armour looks to near future, not to mention it just doesn't look like ME, And i thought there announcing a new IP now a sequel?

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Da_Lion_Man wrote...

mopotter wrote...

SpectreM4 wrote...

even if it was a spinoff, I wouldn't complain :')


if it's any kind of multi-player, I'll complain.  <_<  There are just not enough single player - GOOD - single player games out there.  

Sigh.  I hate waiting.


No, that's not true at all. I'm not sure which platform you use but I can find plenty of worthwhile singleplayer games on PS3 and 360.

If anything, I think there aren't enough good MP games.


Despite the general perception to the contrary, you are correct. My library is overflowing with great single player games, but I have a distinct lack of good multiplayer. I pretty much mostly just play Street Fighter 4, but I've also been playing Black Ops.

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Da_Lion_Man wrote...

mopotter wrote...

SpectreM4 wrote...

even if it was a spinoff, I wouldn't complain :')


if it's any kind of multi-player, I'll complain.  <_<  There are just not enough single player - GOOD - single player games out there.  

Sigh.  I hate waiting.


No, that's not true at all. I'm not sure which platform you use but I can find plenty of worthwhile singleplayer games on PS3 and 360.

If anything, I think there aren't enough good MP games.


But they aren't BioWare games.  I have pc, xbox, xbox 360, wii (step-daughter and her husband just got me this for my birthday last mo).  
I have Fallout3, FANewVegus, Fable2 and 3, I've got Jade Empire, KOTOR, I've played divinity2, Zelda, Final Fantasy 13 (ok could not finish this game), Dragon Age.  I'm really picky about the games i fork out 60-70 bucks for. :)  The ones I like best will let me play as a woman, will let me carry on conversations with the npc's that mean something.  BioWare games.  top of my list. 

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I don't have any problem with a spin-off, so long as it does not impede ME3's development. If they use separate teams, then that's great.

After all, the ME universe is very interesting and well fleshed out, it would be silly to not make more games based on it. Let's have shooters, space sims, RPGs, japanese dating sims, the more the merrier.

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I'll wholly support anything Bioware do* until they give me reason to think otherwise. DA was great, ME was great, ME2 was great. I'm really looking forward to the announcement.



*games-wise anyway, community wise they could do a lot better.

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What if....



that guy



is who you play as on a "fresh newgame"? If that were the case, there'd be the chance that there could be a "continuation" of the story where shepard dies at the end of me2...

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Doctor_Jackstraw wrote...

What if....

that guy

is who you play as on a "fresh newgame"? If that were the case, there'd be the chance that there could be a "continuation" of the story where shepard dies at the end of me2...

For crying out loud.............

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New tweet.



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Modifié par andnico, 17 novembre 2010 - 09:21 .


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That's the same one as earlier -there have been no new tweets for hours.

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Doctor_Jackstraw wrote...

What if....

that guy

is who you play as on a "fresh newgame"? If that were the case, there'd be the chance that there could be a "continuation" of the story where shepard dies at the end of me2...


BioWare has said, this is Shephard's story.  Not the galaxy's, not the reaper's, not the council's, it's Shephards.  

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I don't think it is ME3, but whatever it is looks cool. Return fire nameless soldier!

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Maybe the guy in the trailer is a cerberus operative trying to assassinate shepard?

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mopotter wrote...

Da_Lion_Man wrote...

mopotter wrote...

SpectreM4 wrote...

even if it was a spinoff, I wouldn't complain :')


if it's any kind of multi-player, I'll complain.  <_<  There are just not enough single player - GOOD - single player games out there.  

Sigh.  I hate waiting.


No, that's not true at all. I'm not sure which platform you use but I can find plenty of worthwhile singleplayer games on PS3 and 360.

If anything, I think there aren't enough good MP games.


But they aren't BioWare games.  I have pc, xbox, xbox 360, wii (step-daughter and her husband just got me this for my birthday last mo).  
I have Fallout3, FANewVegus, Fable2 and 3, I've got Jade Empire, KOTOR, I've played divinity2, Zelda, Final Fantasy 13 (ok could not finish this game), Dragon Age.  I'm really picky about the games i fork out 60-70 bucks for. :)  The ones I like best will let me play as a woman, will let me carry on conversations with the npc's that mean something.  BioWare games.  top of my list. 


so pretty much youre too picky. the only game that matches your criteria is me1 and me2. youre gonna be waiting a long time for games since bioware can only make one every couple years.

minus fallout 3/new vegas and final fantasy every game you list is bioware. if you expand your horizons you may be surprised there is some decent games out

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As far as i can tell that is the incisor rifle. DLC? No i think not, the graphics are too different for that to make sense as far as ME DLC is concerned. Now I'm leaning towards either a spin-off ME game or ME3 having some sort of "flash-back" scenario dealing with the First Contact wars. Reason being if you look at DA2 they are clearly using better software/hardware for the graphics engines.



Now im not sure if DA and ME2 used same engine, but the looked to be close enough. You look at DA2 its a graphic overhaul that looks IMO great. So i can expect ME3 to have the same.



So my vote for the moment until other info comes out is ME3 or Spin-Off. Which btw cheers to Bioware, i love teasers that make your mind work in order to get new info on games. Well played Bioware.

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Why are people bringing first contact war into this? There wasn't enough ground combat in that confrontation to warrant a mission let along an entire game. And the Incisor is a new model during the timeframe of ME2.

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Skilled Seeker wrote...

Why are people bringing first contact war into this? There wasn't enough ground combat in that confrontation to warrant a mission let along an entire game. And the Incisor is a new model during the timeframe of ME2.


You bring up a good point, First Contact was more of a skirmish on the beggining and then went into space and other planets, then to diplomatic relations. So full game may not be warneted.

So if i may be so bold .... what about the guy in the trailer maybe being a colonist on either Earth or another colony during the Reaper attacks? From looking at video/screens clearly where ever this takes place it is destroyed. I still lean towards ME on this, so my thinking is maybe this happens during a Reaper attack since, we know how ME2 ended.

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As I said in the other thread I think its a last stand scenario against incoming husk hordes.

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COGlory wrote...

Doctor_Jackstraw wrote...

What if....

that guy

is who you play as on a "fresh newgame"? If that were the case, there'd be the chance that there could be a "continuation" of the story where shepard dies at the end of me2...


BioWare has said, this is Shephard's story.  Not the galaxy's, not the reaper's, not the council's, it's Shephards.  


To get a little Obi-Wan on that....They've said that the TRILOGY is his/her story yes?  But that doesn't completely rule out the case of a "parallel hero" for people who start up the third game on thier own.  In other words, Mass Effect 1-3 is Shepard's Story, Mass Effect 3 on it's own could be someone else's story in the wake of Shepard's Death....So from a certain point of view they could pull an "MGS2 Fakeout" while still maintaining thier promise of keeping the main character through the story. 

It'd be like Sonic and Knuckles.  You can continue the story of Sonic 3 as Sonic, or you can start fresh with a parallel story as Knuckles, going through most of the same events as a different character (I know its not that simple but it fundamentally suits my point).  This way they don't have to worry about "default shepard being crummy" like they did with ME2.  New players could be roped in without slowing down the game for veterans. 

It would also allow new players to start fresh without alot of baggage, then when they've completed "newguy/girl's adventure" they can go back and play the Shepard Trilogy and get a different experience that doesnt make them feel like they made a bad decision jumping in so late.  If they were to do this...it'd be an insane ammount of work, but I can see Bioware doing a game with 4 main character voice actors...(2 heroes, split into 2 genders...just imagine the potential romance trees....Hell they could throw a maleshep and a female new-hero on the
cover at the same time while they're at it.  ;)  )

Modifié par Doctor_Jackstraw, 18 novembre 2010 - 01:34 .


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georgiafan87 wrote...

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Why are people bringing first contact war into this? There wasn't enough ground combat in that confrontation to warrant a mission let along an entire game. And the Incisor is a new model during the timeframe of ME2.


You bring up a good point, First Contact was more of a skirmish on the beggining and then went into space and other planets, then to diplomatic relations. So full game may not be warneted.

So if i may be so bold .... what about the guy in the trailer maybe being a colonist on either Earth or another colony during the Reaper attacks? From looking at video/screens clearly where ever this takes place it is destroyed. I still lean towards ME on this, so my thinking is maybe this happens during a Reaper attack since, we know how ME2 ended.


If Bioware is willing to retcon the incisor into 2157, then it probably won't be a problem for them to retcon the first contact war into a devastating conflict against a hopeless enemy bent on destroying all of mankind...

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Not possible as the game doesn't make a save if Shepard dies and devs have repeatedly said if Shepard dies then the story is over for you, no new character in ME3.

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first contact war prequel/spinoff =P

Modifié par Noob451, 18 novembre 2010 - 01:46 .


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Noob451 wrote...

first contact war prequel/spinoff =P

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Skilled Seeker wrote...

Not possible as the game doesn't make a save if Shepard dies and devs have repeatedly said if Shepard dies then the story is over for you, no new character in ME3.


Well if you're doing a standard newgame from me3 without a previous save input then you wouldn't have anything to import anyways!  Theoretically a new hero could piggyback off of the idea of shepard dieing, without carrying any choices.  When you remove shepard from the equation it would suddenly become easy to have a neutral guy by just not addressing any of that at all, sort of like how ME2 newgame assumes the worst decisions from me1, only this would be one step further.

That is, unless the guy in the trailer is just some schmuck.  boy wouldn't that be funny.

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The point of no Shepard import into ME3 if you died at the end of ME2 is to basically say "Son, you done goofed up, now go back a replay the suicide mission with a little bit of thinking."



They aren't gonna make some average Joe to insert for those who refuse to accept that your Shepard is dead for good if you played it out that way in ME2. Additionaly, they more than likely will create a scenario like they did at the begining of ME2 had you not imported a ME1 file for the finale. As others have pointed out the trilogy is Shepard's story.



This new game, if it is even ME, may have some great potential. Or it may not, we are just gonna have to wait till Dec 11 to find out more detail and then judge when we can play it ourselves.

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I'm thinking this is a spin off ME game that takes place when the Reaper invasion is in full swing. Not much evidence granted, but its just a gut feeling I have. We'll see if it pans out

Modifié par atheelogos, 18 novembre 2010 - 10:29 .