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[Dave of Canada]

Found here. Nothing new but it seems the writer knows the PC gamers will read it and cry fowl and tries to explain.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 17 novembre 2010 - 10:37 .

[XX55XX]

The lack of any tactical overview still saddens me. I mean, that was how I played DAO most of the time. The overhead view offers the most flexibility, and it's more easy to control and coordinate an entire party when attacking enemies. Otherwise, I would have gotten swiss-cheesed by the boss characters more often.

I am disappointed, but I still have DA2 pre-ordered...

[Brockololly]

Meh, its another console preview. If Totillo had previewed the PC version then I might buy into his attempts at alleviating the concerns of the PC version being gimped. ANd quite frankly I'd much rather read what Mike Fahey, who loved PC Origins, has to think about DA2.



Bottom line is that this was still a preview of the console version.

[Eleinehmm]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Found here. Nothing new but it seems the writer knows the PC gamers will read it and cry fowl and tries to explain.

I knew it - Fare thee well,  my beloved tactical view. <_<

Modifié par Eleinehmm, 17 novembre 2010 - 10:44 .

[Razgul]

So is it official that there's no tactical view for the pc version? I remember something about it being not as far away, but that there's none at all?

[Blacklash93]

6 skill trees per character with 5-8 skills each plus upgrades? I haven't heard that before.

[Eleinehmm]

According to the article there is an "option to zoom the camera out, just not up. Console gamers won't get that."



Who the hell need to zoom it out ?

[Shepard Lives]

I like how this thing is written, it's a nice change of pace from carelessly describing the game as a hack and slash inspired by Mass Effect.



New stuff about the skill trees. More specific. I also like the part where they say that char customization goes for depth rather than breadth.

...So overhead view is gone altogether. We only get to zoom back, not up. Pretty sure the demo build is old, though, and Laidlaw said they're still tweaking the camera. So, either the dude is wrong or they actually scrapped the tactical cam. Let's get ready for another batch of nerdraging threads.

[Hardin4188]

Not having a tactical view is very disappointing. It is very useful in the first game.

[Ziggeh]

Eleinehmm wrote...

According to the article there is an "option to zoom the camera out, just not up. Console gamers won't get that."

Who the hell need to zoom it out ?

I do.

[Kevin Lynch]

I agree. The tactical overhead view is something I always used in DA:O and I'll definitely miss it if I play DA2. It's been a fact that the faster and more close-up that combat gets in games, the less interested I am in replaying them. I can see me still playing DA:O even with DA2 released, as a result.

[Eleinehmm]

ziggehunderslash wrote...

Eleinehmm wrote...

According to the article there is an "option to zoom the camera out, just not up. Console gamers won't get that."

Who the hell need to zoom it out ?

I do.

What for ? Really,  how does it help in battle - I am serious and would really like to know it.

[2papercuts]

ziggehunderslash wrote...

Eleinehmm wrote...

According to the article there is an "option to zoom the camera out, just not up. Console gamers won't get that."

Who the hell need to zoom it out ?

I do.

wait just farther over the shoulder?

Why?

[Vylan Antagonist]

2papercuts wrote...

ziggehunderslash wrote...

Eleinehmm wrote...

According to the article there is an "option to zoom the camera out, just not up. Console gamers won't get that."

Who the hell need to zoom it out ?

I do.

wait just farther over the shoulder?

Why?

I guess it could be useful to get a better view of what's around your character; Situational awareness.

[Brockololly]

Seriously, though if the "TACTICAL CAMERA 2.0 !" is just the ability to zoom out, thats total BS. Its stuff like this that shows how they at least need to show the PC version to journalists instead of having to filter everything through a PR person.

[Zhijn]

The bigger change, however, is that the game will no longer support an overhead tactical view on any platform.This was an art and combat-design decision, the BioWare rep told me today.

Uh now im confused. Didnt the Devs continuously defend & say on this board that there would be a tactical view for the PC, but now this BW rep mention its just a wider zoom, sorta?.

PC game won't be made separately this time. All versions of the game are being made by BioWare's internal teams.

Not sure what to make of that..

Modifié par Zhijn, 17 novembre 2010 - 10:56 .

[Kevin Lynch]

2papercuts wrote...

wait just farther over the shoulder?

Why?

Zooming out allows you to see more in the field of view, obviously. The more you see, the better you can react to what's happening around you.

Modifié par Kevin Lynch, 17 novembre 2010 - 10:56 .

[Erode_The_Soul]

Coming from someone who hasn't diligently followed every bit of DA2 news thus far, that entire article has me more worried than before.

Fare thee well, my beloved tactical view

[Shepard Lives]

Zhijn wrote...

PC game won't be made separately this time. All versions of the game are being made by BioWare's internal teams.

Not sure what to make of that..

It's a somewhat clumsily-worded way of saying that none of the three versions is a port.
PC, Xbox and PS3 are all being developed alongside each other.

[Eleinehmm]

Kevin Lynch wrote...

2papercuts wrote...

wait just farther over the shoulder?

Why?

Zooming out allows you to see more in the field of view, obviously. The more you see, the better you can react to what's happening around you.

Isn't it customary for all of the  3-person games  - Why would they call it a tactical camera...

[Ziggeh]

Eleinehmm wrote...

ziggehunderslash wrote...

Eleinehmm wrote...

According to the article there is an "option to zoom the camera out, just not up. Console gamers won't get that."

Who the hell need to zoom it out ?

I do.

What for ? Really,  how does it help in battle - I am serious and would really like to know it.

Kevin Lynch wrote...

Zooming out allows you to see more in
the field of view, obviously. The more you see, the better you can
react to what's happening around you.

^

[Ziggeh]

Eleinehmm wrote...

Isn't it customary for all of the  3-person games  - Why would they call it a tactical camera...

3rd person party based tactical combat games?

[Marionetten]

The game not being designed around the use of a tactical camera is quite telling in just how dumbed down it has gotten. Needless to say, I am disappointed.

[2papercuts]

Kevin Lynch wrote...

2papercuts wrote...

wait just farther over the shoulder?

Why?

Zooming out allows you to see more in the field of view, obviously. The more you see, the better you can react to what's happening around you.

but if its just a farther shot over the shoulder you still cant see much more than you could originally

[The Masked Rog]

Eleinehmm wrote...

Kevin Lynch wrote...

2papercuts wrote...

wait just farther over the shoulder?

Why?

Zooming out allows you to see more in the field of view, obviously. The more you see, the better you can react to what's happening around you.

Isn't it customary for all of the  3-person games  - Why would they call it a tactical camera...

Because it has free-roam? I really don't know.